DBS's 100% CONFIRMED "Rare" Print Run Info

[magnus20009]

Store and/or Convention Exclusives: 100 copies or LESS
3-10 known copies - Ninjak #0 (NYCC Unreleased Edition)

NOTE #1: Supposedly all copies of Ninjak vs the Valiant Universe #0 (NYCC Unreleased Edition) were destroyed. This clearly did NOT happen, as a FEW copies still exist and/or have been rarely made available on eBay.

NOTE #2: Greg owns four raw copies of this book. There are five graded copies in the census (four Universal and one Signature Series). This confirms at least NINE known copies.

I have been given permission to say that the four copies that I own are from Dinesh's personal collection and were purchased following Dinesh's departure from Valiant in 2018. I don't know if any copies have ever been located that did not start with Dinesh.

DBS - there are 5 copies CGC graded, but 4 of those are labeled as "Jason David Frank photo cover".
http://www.cgcdata.com/cgc/search/title ... us/201020/

It looks like CGC considers the "all characters" photo cover as cover "B" of the NYCC exclusive. Just one on the CGC Census. 5 known raw copies.

This is my graded copy of the book

[nycjadie]

Store and/or Convention Exclusives: 100 copies or LESS
3-10 known copies - Ninjak #0 (NYCC Unreleased Edition)

NOTE #1: Supposedly all copies of Ninjak vs the Valiant Universe #0 (NYCC Unreleased Edition) were destroyed. This clearly did NOT happen, as a FEW copies still exist and/or have been rarely made available on eBay.

NOTE #2: Greg owns four raw copies of this book. There are five graded copies in the census (four Universal and one Signature Series). This confirms at least NINE known copies.

I have been given permission to say that the four copies that I own are from Dinesh's personal collection and were purchased following Dinesh's departure from Valiant in 2018. I don't know if any copies have ever been located that did not start with Dinesh.

DBS - there are 5 copies CGC graded, but 4 of those are labeled as "Jason David Frank photo cover".
http://www.cgcdata.com/cgc/search/title ... us/201020/

It looks like CGC considers the "all characters" photo cover as cover "B" of the NYCC exclusive. Just one on the CGC Census. 5 known raw copies.

This is my graded copy of the book

I think I sold you that one, right?

[magnus20009]

Yes you did. Thank you very much for doing so.

[nycjadie]

Yes you did. Thank you very much for doing so.

[DirtbagSailor]

100% CONFIRMED:

X-O Manowar (2020) #2 (1:25 Sword of Shanhara Variant) by artist Daniel Warren Johnson will have less than 350 copies printed. It will also have a “Spot Varnish” finish the same as the X-O Manowar (2020) #1 (1:25 Erica Henderson Variant) did.

ADDITIONALLY...

We recently saw images of the X-O Manowar #2 (Gold Edition) online. Yes, this is the first Valiant Gold (that I am aware of) for a #2 issue. They have historically been released for #0s and #1s.

However, the X-O Manowar #2 (Gold Edition) print run will be approx. 50% of what VEI has historically printed for previous gold book.

Say what you will, but I’m certainly going to hunt a copy.

[JCP]

100% CONFIRMED:

X-O Manowar (2020) #2 (1:25 Sword of Shanhara Variant) by artist Daniel Warren Johnson will have less than 350 copies printed. It will also have a “Spot Varnish” finish the same as the X-O Manowar (2020) #1 (1:25 Erica Henderson Variant) did.

ADDITIONALLY...

We recently saw images of the X-O Manowar #2 (Gold Edition) online. Yes, this is the first Valiant Gold (that I am aware of) for a #2 issue. They have historically been released for #0s and #1s.

However, the X-O Manowar #2 (Gold Edition) print run will be approx. 50% of what VEI has historically printed for previous gold book.

Say what you will, but I’m certainly going to hunt a copy.

Link for the gold variant?

[DirtbagSailor]

[agent_graves]

Not feeling the 1:25, even if I was still pulling this title. This however, the rarity, has the collector side of me in full search mode..

[Juki]

Does anyone have an estimate on the print run of 2013 Shadowman #5 Grandpa 1:125 line Variant (first new Dr. Mirage AKA Shan Fong)? I can’t remember if a print run estimate was ever determined on this comic.

[DirtbagSailor]

Does anyone have an estimate on the print run of 2013 Shadowman #5 Grandpa 1:125 line Variant (first new Dr. Mirage AKA Shan Fong)? I can’t remember if a print run estimate was ever determined on this comic.

Nothing confirmed; however, it was released approx. 1-2 months after the Harbinger #8 1:125 Linewide (which we know had 500 copies).

Unless it is confirmed at some future point, it is reasonable to conclude that Shadowman #8 1:125 Linewide would have a similar print run of approx. 500 copies. However, as this has not been confirmed, I have not added it to my list.

[Juki]

Does anyone have an estimate on the print run of 2013 Shadowman #5 Grandpa 1:125 line Variant (first new Dr. Mirage AKA Shan Fong)? I can’t remember if a print run estimate was ever determined on this comic.

Nothing confirmed; however, it was released approx. 1-2 months after the Harbinger #8 1:125 Linewide (which we know had 500 copies).

Unless it is confirmed at some future point, it is reasonable to conclude that Shadowman #8 1:125 Linewide would have a similar print run of approx. 500 copies. However, as this has not been confirmed, I have not added it to my list.

Ok, thanks DBS. It doesn’t seem like the Shadowman #5 Grandpa 1:125 print run has been discussed much in the past. It seems like an important first appearance book that doesn’t come up for sale much anymore lately. The well could run dry eventually if there are truly 500 or less in existence. Especially if there is ever any actual Dr. Mirage tv episodes made as speculated in the past. I won’t hold my breath... but this character would make for an interesting Netflix/Amazon series.

[JCP]

DBS, a top 10 coming out soon?

[DirtbagSailor]

DBS, a top 10 coming out soon?

Yes, I was working an October Top 10, but work went bonkers and required significant attention.

I will release a November Top 10 list shortly.

[JCP]

DBS, a top 10 coming out soon?

Yes, I was working an October Top 10, but work went bonkers and required significant attention.

I will release a November Top 10 list shortly.

[Ramses818]

DBS, a top 10 coming out soon?

Yes, I was working an October Top 10, but work went bonkers and required significant attention.

I will release a November Top 10 list shortly.

Why not give us a double dose of your monthly top 10? I know I would love it! Who else is with me?

[JCP]

DBS, any chance for a new Top 10? It would be a welcome sight with a lot of posts in other threads lately!

[GammaJosh]

For whatever it's worth, a little bird told me that gold issues have been destroyed to maintain value and scarcity.

[JCP]

For whatever it's worth, a little bird told me that gold issues have been destroyed to maintain value and scarcity.

Valiantdude, is that you?

[Chiclo]

This is the opposite of the valiantdude claim.

So… yellow alert? Call the local non-emergency police line?

[JCP]

[dino]

Does anyone have an estimate on the print run of 2013 Shadowman #5 Grandpa 1:125 line Variant (first new Dr. Mirage AKA Shan Fong)? I can’t remember if a print run estimate was ever determined on this comic.

Nothing confirmed; however, it was released approx. 1-2 months after the Harbinger #8 1:125 Linewide (which we know had 500 copies).

Unless it is confirmed at some future point, it is reasonable to conclude that Shadowman #8 1:125 Linewide would have a similar print run of approx. 500 copies. However, as this has not been confirmed, I have not added it to my list.

Ok, thanks DBS. It doesn’t seem like the Shadowman #5 Grandpa 1:125 print run has been discussed much in the past. It seems like an important first appearance book that doesn’t come up for sale much anymore lately. The well could run dry eventually if there are truly 500 or less in existence. Especially if there is ever any actual Dr. Mirage tv episodes made as speculated in the past. I won’t hold my breath... but this character would make for an interesting Netflix/Amazon series.

If memory serves we there are significantly more Harbinger 8 1:125 than Shadowman #5 1:125

[GammaJosh]

For whatever it's worth, a little bird told me that gold issues have been destroyed to maintain value and scarcity.

Valiantdude, is that you?

This went over my head, sorry. I can't say more, but you can use your imagination as to where I may have heard this.

[Juki]

Does anyone have an estimate on the print run of 2013 Shadowman #5 Grandpa 1:125 line Variant (first new Dr. Mirage AKA Shan Fong)? I can’t remember if a print run estimate was ever determined on this comic.

Nothing confirmed; however, it was released approx. 1-2 months after the Harbinger #8 1:125 Linewide (which we know had 500 copies).

Unless it is confirmed at some future point, it is reasonable to conclude that Shadowman #8 1:125 Linewide would have a similar print run of approx. 500 copies. However, as this has not been confirmed, I have not added it to my list.

Ok, thanks DBS. It doesn’t seem like the Shadowman #5 Grandpa 1:125 print run has been discussed much in the past. It seems like an important first appearance book that doesn’t come up for sale much anymore lately. The well could run dry eventually if there are truly 500 or less in existence. Especially if there is ever any actual Dr. Mirage tv episodes made as speculated in the past. I won’t hold my breath... but this character would make for an interesting Netflix/Amazon series.

If memory serves we there are significantly more Harbinger 8 1:125 than Shadowman #5 1:125

Wow... So, if there were 500 copies of the Harbinger issue 8 1:125 Linewide variant printed (with some of these possibly being destroyed as “extras”).... I wonder what the print run actually was for Shadowman #5 1:125 Linewide variant? Significantly less copies could mean about 200-300 printed. And if any were destroyed as “extras” this one could be a Mega-Sleeper if anything positive is ever done with Dr. Mirage.

I still wonder about the destruction of extra copies. Was one person in charge of this? Or did that kind of rotate between many people? This could have been done consistently.... or may have been an afterthought and may never really know.

[IMJ]

Greg and I were just talking about this thread for a while, giving me cause to look at it. In many ways this is such cool info, but in others it's like - God help the general collector who gets interested enough to hunt these down.

In some ways it's fun, but in others this was the kind of release limits that drove me away from the publisher around 2014. Still, I'd be interested in hunting down the Shadowman and Rai stuff I don't have from some of these 200 book limits.

[Ramses818]

Damn you man! You gave me hope there was a new top ten list or something!