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MarkRoseHFX wrote:
greg wrote: :|
Thanks greg i'm sorry. I have myself calmed down now it's difficult. i'll redo that without the garbage.
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I think it's awesome that Valiant gave these away to everyone on Twitter. I ALMOST "lied" :lol: and photoshopped myself holding my Valiant comics into the Paradise store. I just can't get to my LCS on Wednesdays :( I have to take care of my little boy on those days. The good news is, I think there will be a lot more of these on EBAY soon and the prices should plummet so I can buy one :lol: :thumb:

To join the debate I have had my Twitter account for years and almost never logged in ... until Valiant "made me". I don't love it, but I do find it gives me a lot of info and interaction that I wouldn't get anywhere else. I follow a few people on the board, I follow Valiant, Dinesh and Simon and several of the Valiant artists and writers. I also use it to follow my Chicago Cubs and several beat writers which actually has been "awesome" for insider info I don't get anywhere else AND I get breaking news and rumors fast. I suggest you all join Twitter.

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Crow331 wrote:I also use it to follow my Chicago Cubs and several beat writers which actually has been "awesome" for insider info I don't get anywhere else".
Incoming joke:
I got some insider info on your Cubbies >>> they will never win a WS.

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slimydog wrote:
Crow331 wrote:I also use it to follow my Chicago Cubs and several beat writers which actually has been "awesome" for insider info I don't get anywhere else".
Incoming joke:
I got some insider info on your Cubbies >>> they will never win a WS.
Hey Padres fan, just because you swept our *SQUEE* team a few days ago doesn't mean you should start getting delusional ... your team blows just as much as ours!! 8-)

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slimydog wrote:
Crow331 wrote:I also use it to follow my Chicago Cubs and several beat writers which actually has been "awesome" for insider info I don't get anywhere else".
Incoming joke:
I got some insider info on your Cubbies >>> they will never win a WS.
Never is a very, very long time.

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slimydog wrote: Incoming joke:
I got some insider info on your Cubbies >>> they will never win a WS.
I'm a Red Sox fan and I remember hearing that for years too :)
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Chiclo wrote:
slimydog wrote:
Crow331 wrote:I also use it to follow my Chicago Cubs and several beat writers which actually has been "awesome" for insider info I don't get anywhere else".
Incoming joke:
I got some insider info on your Cubbies >>> they will never win a WS.
Never is a very, very long time.
Not to mention the obvious answer ... they already won several World Series! The last was in 1908 8-) and the Padres have NEVER won a WS fyi :P

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MarkRoseHFX wrote: I'm a Red Sox fan
Well, that explains the anger in this thread.














Carl Crawford. :poke:
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MarkRoseHFX wrote:
david_albuq wrote:So you have to be on Twitter to win? :roll: Hey VEI, there are some fans who don't tweet and don't FB.
So do you think VEI should run promotions like that to reach new fans on a Valiant Fans messageboard or on FB and twitter :roll:

no offense man but that wasn't the brightest comment i've ever seen.
How do you reach new fans on twitter exactly? Don't you have to subscribe to the twitter feed? Wouldn't that make you a fan already?

I'm honestly curious as I've never used twitter.
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Wow!!! This thread took a hell of a turn! :P
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rjrjr wrote:How do you reach new fans on twitter exactly? Don't you have to subscribe to the twitter feed? Wouldn't that make you a fan already?

I'm honestly curious as I've never used twitter.
It's a couple things.

I use twitter a lot, and I use it pretty heavily to increase exposure of Only The Valiant.

When someone retweets something I tweet, it goes in their list of tweets, so people that follow them, but don't follow me, will see it. When Valiant retweets one of my OTV tweets, for instance, all of their thousands of followers will see that tweet, in addition to our hundreds of followers.

Also, I will add people to my twitter feed. Most people have twitter set up so they get an email when someone decides to follow them. When I follow them, there is a chance they will check out my twitter account and decide to follow me back. I always look when someone follows me, and unless it is clearly a spam account or an institutional account for something I'm not interested in, I follow back.

I like to say that "Twitter is the Internet's Cocktail Party", and it really does work kind of like that. Conversations ebb, flow, shift, and people come in and out of them, and as a result you meet, and follow, new people.
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david_albuq wrote:Here's the thing. VEI does in fact have other means to encourage promotion of their brand through various means. But c'mon. We are talking the rarest of rare of the new Valiants...probably the most-sought after due to scarcity....maybe even the most-valuable.

Only available to those who Tweet. That is in fact the bottom line. We're not talking about some run-of-the mill variant or a gold, we're talking the gold standard of variants.

And garnering such a gem should not be inclusive to those who only Tweet.

Truth be told. I've been encouraging Valiant since 1993. I even have an original Valiant symbol tattoo. So yea, I'm a fan.
I just wanted to chime in on a couple of things (a little nicer :P )... First, and this is just my opinion, I don't think this book is going to be the rarest of the rare. In fact, I think most 1:50s will be more rare. My reasoning in that this is a 1:100 line wide and the print run on the the total Valiant line will be much more than any single title. I assume that Valiant will print 1 for every 100 issues sold and not just enough to meet the orders that meet the 100 requirement.

Second, I understand some people don't like Twitter, but with all the re-tweet contests, fan art Fridays, and now walk in Wednesdays, I don't see why you wouldn't sign up for Twitter if only to enter the contests? I'm not a huge fan of Twitter, but many places (including Valiant) share more news on Twitter than any other place.

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Agreed. It bears repeating, since people keep seeming to forget...

There are AS MANY of each Valiant comic as VEI decides to print.

The ratios that retailers need to order are what retailers must do.
VEI can print as many as they want and give them away any way they want.

I would be VERY surprised if there are less than 1,000 of any Valiant books... ever.

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400yrs wrote:
MarkRoseHFX wrote: I'm a Red Sox fan
Well, that explains the anger in this thread.














Carl Crawford. :poke:
That's funny!!

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400yrs wrote:
MarkRoseHFX wrote: I'm a Red Sox fan
Well, that explains the anger in this thread.

Carl Crawford. :poke:
:funnypost: I have very little anger actually. I just won't be mocked and talked down to by someone who doesn't see the big picture. And i can laugh about this crappy Red Sox season bc unlike Yankee fans we can deal with losing :D
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Dr. Solar wrote: I like to say that "Twitter is the Internet's Cocktail Party", and it really does work kind of like that. Conversations ebb, flow, shift, and people come in and out of them, and as a result you meet, and follow, new people.
That and his whole post is a great description of twitter. You can use it to build relationships with people of that share your interests. for example I focus mainly on blood donation awareness, UFC/MMA, and comic books. It takes a while to get used to it but once you get the hang of it and really start to get how it works it can actually be fun. I've built some great relationships and i've used it as a tool to spread messages. for example I've gotten some UFC fighters like Shane Carwin and comic book creators like Neil Gaiman to help spread the word about blood donation. Neil's tweet alone was sent out to his approx 3 million followers and many of them retweeted it. Even if only a very small fraction actually bothered with the tweet that's still a pretty damn good number. There is no better way for free to spread the word about something.

I discovered the new Valiant was coming on Twitter. I LOVED reading my Valiant books back in the 90's and when I saw it that day on twitter I felt like a kid again. And i'm loving every issue that comes out because it's even better than it was back then imo. And if you think i'm the only one hearing about it this way you're sadly mistaken.

You can also build some great relationships on there and i've discovered a lot of webcomics and small press stuff that I really enjoy via twitter. And I haven't just won prizes from Valiant either i've won a bunch of free t-shirts and stuff like that.

Edit- just another small point i forgot to make...this contest my LCS owner also won the A&A variant so do think that helps or hurts my chances of getting a lot of those harder to get 2nd prints etc? :D
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MarrowMan wrote:Well good news for me.

I just won the 1:100 (and so did a bunch of others, everyone who participated) on twitter!

We all took pics at our LCS of us picking up our comics! Here's mine (I'm the white guy :P )

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How awesome is that?
Awesome I won one too!!!!

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tchalla8 wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
MarkRoseHFX wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:
Elveen wrote:This might get me on twitter.
come to the dark side...
YESSSSSS Elveen NEEDS to be on twitter! :thumb:
You are not missing just a whole lot, Elv.
Just as with everything (like this message board), you get as much out of twitter as you put into it. And sometimes more. Like a Neal Adams A&A #1 variant :)
I've given it my all in every twitter contest they've had hoping to come out of it with something. And now its paid off.
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MarkRoseHFX wrote:
david_albuq wrote:Here's the thing. VEI does in fact have other means to encourage promotion of their brand through various means. But c'mon. We are talking the rarest of rare of the new Valiants...probably the most-sought after due to scarcity....maybe even the most-valuable.

Only available to those who Tweet. That is in fact the bottom line. We're not talking about some run-of-the mill variant or a gold, we're talking the gold standard of variants.

And garnering such a gem should not be inclusive to those who only Tweet.

Truth be told. I've been encouraging Valiant since 1993. I even have an original Valiant symbol tattoo. So yea, I'm a fan.
ok *SQUEE* now the gloves are off. If there are better ways to reach new fans than on facebook and twitter you still haven't named them. You're thinking about this from the WRONG perspective. Promotions like this are double valuable to Valiant. Not only does it reward fans that support them on twitter/fb or whatever but those peoples followers see this as well. To give you even just a twitter example myself I have 967 followers. some of which are junk yes i try to clean them out. so even if you remove say 150 or so junk followers everything i tweet is seen by around 800 people. of which most of them are NOT from the Valiant world. my facebook i have over 1700 friends. there is a lot of junk in there too but a *SQUEE* of them come from former workplaces that I had a LOT of co-workers I've worked for very large companies. Nobody questions your Valiant fandom esp if you have that tattoo for real i think that's badass. But if you think just talking about Valiant on a Valiant fan message board is helping drive new business you ARE an idiot. And if you underestimate the reach of facebook and twitter you're an even bigger idiot. and last time I checked this issue isn't only available on twitter you can feel free to purchase it anywhere. but if you want a free copy i'd suggest you do work son. And if you think i'm some sort of *SQUEE* newb just because i haven't been on this board forever you are sadly mistaken. My first Valiant book when I was in High School and working part time at an LCS was VH1 X-O #1. I'm sure you're probably a pretty good guy but take your head out of your *SQUEE*.

And if you can think of a better way for VEI to reach new fans on a FREE platform feel free to finally answer the question you've been asked.
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MarkRoseHFX wrote:
david_albuq wrote:@ Mark,

aka the "rambling man".

Ever heard of coalescing your thoughts into readable paragraphs? I know there's some big words in there. :roll:
I apologize oh great master and ruler of the world who thinks he's king of the world bc he's been on a message board longer than a lot of people. And i'm so sorry that I do have a difficult time coalescing my thoughts by here's the truth. Last year I almost died from a rare blood disease called TTP. I'm currently on medication being treated for PTSD related panic and anxiety disorder as a result of the treatment for this disease. So if that's inconvenient for you to read i'm so so sorry I didn't mean to offend you king of all Valiant. And I may have rambled but at least I can answer questions posed to me and I can write more than one broken sentence.
Very well said Mark!!!!!!
Anyway you SIR are gigantic toolbag and it's a good thing you can hide behind a keyboard and speak this way to people...even so called "newbs" bc I GUARANTEE you'd never say that to my face. And if you did you'd be VERY sorry.

Wanna see the Harby QR #1 and Bloodshot #1 1:20 Aja variants I've won from Valiant on TWITTER too? :D

Don't be hating bc I can promote Valiant better than you can, I guess some of us so-called "newbs" are just SMARTER than you are and we care more about the company than our own collections.

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Don't forget to DM Valiant your LCS's info they get one too. Your LCS getting an A&A 1:100 out of this contest is going to help you AND Valiant both. Who knows you might find future variants for cover price bc of something like that. Plus don't forget if the LCS gets something like that they'll be happy with Valiant and want to SELL Valiant. And the more Valiant sells the more your variants are worth. Food for thought eh :thumb:

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Good for you Mark ...I totally agree brother!!!!
MarkRoseHFX wrote:
david_albuq wrote:@ Mark,

aka the "rambling man".

Ever heard of coalescing your thoughts into readable paragraphs? I know there's some big words in there. :roll:
I apologize oh great master and ruler of the world who thinks he's king of the world bc he's been on a message board longer than a lot of people. And i'm so sorry that I do have a difficult time coalescing my thoughts by here's the truth. Last year I almost died from a rare blood disease called TTP. I'm currently on medication being treated for PTSD related panic and anxiety disorder as a result of the treatment for this disease. So if that's inconvenient for you to read i'm so so sorry I didn't mean to offend you king of all Valiant. And I may have rambled but at least I can answer questions posed to me and I can write more than one broken sentence.

Anyway you SIR are gigantic toolbag and it's a good thing you can hide behind a keyboard and speak this way to people...even so called "newbs" bc I GUARANTEE you'd never say that to my face. And if you did you'd be VERY sorry.

Wanna see the Harby QR #1 and Bloodshot #1 1:20 Aja variants I've won from Valiant on TWITTER too? :D

Don't be hating bc I can promote Valiant better than you can, I guess some of us so-called "newbs" are just SMARTER than you are and we care more about the company than our own collections.

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Thanks for the info Mark. I also did win an Adams cover as well and I will DM my LCS adress to Valiant!!!!
MarkRoseHFX wrote:Don't forget to DM Valiant your LCS's info they get one too. Your LCS getting an A&A 1:100 out of this contest is going to help you AND Valiant both. Who knows you might find future variants for cover price bc of something like that. Plus don't forget if the LCS gets something like that they'll be happy with Valiant and want to SELL Valiant. And the more Valiant sells the more your variants are worth. Food for thought eh :thumb:

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If VEI prints AS MANY of each Valiant comic as VEI decides to print, I wonder if we will get a 2nd print for variants.

Also, how will we know exactly what the print run of a book will be if this happens. :D
greg wrote:Agreed. It bears repeating, since people keep seeming to forget...

There are AS MANY of each Valiant comic as VEI decides to print.

The ratios that retailers need to order are what retailers must do.
VEI can print as many as they want and give them away any way they want.

I would be VERY surprised if there are less than 1,000 of any Valiant books... ever.

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drmirage wrote:If VEI prints AS MANY of each Valiant comic as VEI decides to print, I wonder if we will get a 2nd print for variants.

Also, how will we know exactly what the print run of a book will be if this happens. :D
greg wrote:Agreed. It bears repeating, since people keep seeming to forget...

There are AS MANY of each Valiant comic as VEI decides to print.

The ratios that retailers need to order are what retailers must do.
VEI can print as many as they want and give them away any way they want.

I would be VERY surprised if there are less than 1,000 of any Valiant books... ever.

In theory, VEI could've printed 100K of each of the "hard to find" variants. Oh no! All my stuff is WORTHLESS!!!!
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