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iggy101us wrote:
BruceReville wrote:
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dave wrote:Let us know if you feel that you overpaid... :P
Whoever sold it to him should have paid him three dollars to take it off them.
Bruce will soon find that out after he reads them....
Bruce may never be the same :(


:lol: Kidding ;)
Ok - I am scared now :|
Bruce will start a Deathmate hoard.
Now that would be scary.....

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Then he and Q-Bert would have to duke it out.

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I did like the Deathmate card set. To a point. It was probably the best part of DM. The little synopses they had on the back is better than anything in the actual books.

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dave wrote:I did like the Deathmate card set. To a point. It was probably the best part of DM. The little synopses they had on the back is better than anything in the actual books.
Yeah, they did a good job with the card set.

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I do have a complete set of the TOPPS Deathmate cards :clap:

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BruceReville wrote:I do have a complete set of the TOPPS Deathmate cards :clap:
All of the special cards as well or just the basic set?

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Daniel Jackson wrote:
BruceReville wrote:I do have a complete set of the TOPPS Deathmate cards :clap:
All of the special cards as well or just the basic set?
Just the one :clap:

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I have a question! Why is DeathMate Red Gold listed at 15 bucks? It doesn't have any less of a print run than the other golds. What makes it special?

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BruceReville wrote:I do have a complete set of the TOPPS Deathmate cards :clap:
I won a lot of about 25 unopened boxes of assorted non-sport cards for about $50 on eBay about a year ago.

19 of those 25 boxes were Deathmate.

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arghh! wrote:I have a question! Why is DeathMate Red Gold listed at 15 bucks? It doesn't have any less of a print run than the other golds. What makes it special?
Deathmate Red shipped something like 8 months late and had to be resolicited (maybe twice? - definitely at least once). The print run dropped significantly compared to the other issues. The Red Gold accordingly dropped significantly in print run compared to the other gold issues.

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Chiclo wrote:
arghh! wrote:I have a question! Why is DeathMate Red Gold listed at 15 bucks? It doesn't have any less of a print run than the other golds. What makes it special?
Deathmate Red shipped something like 8 months late and had to be resolicited (maybe twice? - definitely at least once). The print run dropped significantly compared to the other issues. The Red Gold accordingly dropped significantly in print run compared to the other gold issues.
That makes sense but according to the print runs listed here it had a 10k print run. Blue and yellow golds are listed as 5k print runs. I must be reading it wrong :?

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arghh! wrote:
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arghh! wrote:I have a question! Why is DeathMate Red Gold listed at 15 bucks? It doesn't have any less of a print run than the other golds. What makes it special?
Deathmate Red shipped something like 8 months late and had to be resolicited (maybe twice? - definitely at least once). The print run dropped significantly compared to the other issues. The Red Gold accordingly dropped significantly in print run compared to the other gold issues.
That makes sense but according to the print runs listed here it had a 10k print run. Blue and yellow golds are listed as 5k print runs. I must be reading it wrong :?
In the past, the reds have been the hardest of the Deathmate golds to find.

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So......


I just cracked open Deathmate Black. I read the first page with X-O and then skimmed the rest of the pages. I saw X-O on a few and Hard Corps on a bunch with alot of words and pictures that hurt my eyes.

Screw that. I ain't reading that crap.

I'll probably do the same for the red one.

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400yrs wrote:So......


I just cracked open Deathmate Black. I read the first page with X-O and then skimmed the rest of the pages. I saw X-O on a few and Hard Corps on a bunch with alot of words and pictures that hurt my eyes.

Screw that. I ain't reading that crap.

I'll probably do the same for the red one.
It's been a while and the memory is ineffectively repressed but I think Gilad may be the only Valiant character in Red. Even then, if you just skim the book you probably wouldn't pick up on him as Gilad - he looks like any other Liefeld scrawling. The Valiant characters in Black are little more than background characters. I think they randomly picked out Valiant characters off a list to be seat fillers.

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Chiclo wrote:
400yrs wrote:So......


I just cracked open Deathmate Black. I read the first page with X-O and then skimmed the rest of the pages. I saw X-O on a few and Hard Corps on a bunch with alot of words and pictures that hurt my eyes.

Screw that. I ain't reading that crap.

I'll probably do the same for the red one.
It's been a while and the memory is ineffectively repressed but I think Gilad may be the only Valiant character in Red. Even then, if you just skim the book you probably wouldn't pick up on him as Gilad - he looks like any other Liefeld scrawling. The Valiant characters in Black are little more than background characters. I think they randomly picked out Valiant characters off a list to be seat fillers.
I think it was Red where a very Liefeld-esque Bloodshot was a member of Youngblood. It's not worth a re-flip though.

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400yrs wrote:So......


I just cracked open Deathmate Black. I read the first page with X-O and then skimmed the rest of the pages. I saw X-O on a few and Hard Corps on a bunch with alot of words and pictures that hurt my eyes.

Screw that. I ain't reading that crap.

I'll probably do the same for the red one.
I might have tried a little harder than you did, but ended up with the same result.

I'm not sure if anyone has ever been able to muscle through the entire issue!

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400yrs wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
400yrs wrote:So......


I just cracked open Deathmate Black. I read the first page with X-O and then skimmed the rest of the pages. I saw X-O on a few and Hard Corps on a bunch with alot of words and pictures that hurt my eyes.

Screw that. I ain't reading that crap.

I'll probably do the same for the red one.
It's been a while and the memory is ineffectively repressed but I think Gilad may be the only Valiant character in Red. Even then, if you just skim the book you probably wouldn't pick up on him as Gilad - he looks like any other Liefeld scrawling. The Valiant characters in Black are little more than background characters. I think they randomly picked out Valiant characters off a list to be seat fillers.
I think it was Red where a very Liefeld-esque Bloodshot was a member of Youngblood. It's not worth a re-flip though.

It is Bloodshot, but not one that we would recognise, plus he is the book a few times with no part at all, though saying that no character has a part as there is no plot, story or point to the whole comic.

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WOW - Just -- WOW!

I have to admit I went into this with a bit of hesitation but --- WOW!

This story is the perfect analogy of a real world blending of two families that are coming off of bad divorces. Image artists with Marvel and Valiant with Shooter. The chaos of both of these events suddenly finding themselves thrust together for better or worse to try and make it work and obviously it didn't.

Just like a real blending of divorced families - some children get along - some don't - some get lost in the shuffle - some rebel against the change and turn bad. Archer is a prime example of the later.

As so often happens in this day and age the marriage does not work out and leads to an inevitable dissolution. Deathmate's inevitability -- the end of the universe. This story goes to the extreme in this process to the event that Social Services (Solar - Darque - Supreme) have to step in and try and save the children and their destructive behaviour.

It leads to a confrontation with the parents of this new family (Void & Solar the Explorer) and Social Services. It finally comes down to the legal system (Union) with evidence or in this case energy from Solar to come to the decision to divorce the parents and stabilize the lives of all involved with little or no consequences.

So in essence Deathmate is a social review of the struggles that can arise from the blending of two divorce families that not always are as compatible as they may think they are.

:? - Ok I read it and really I have no f*(^ing idea what the point of it was.

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BruceReville wrote:WOW - Just -- WOW!

I have to admit I went into this with a bit of hesitation but --- WOW!

This story is the perfect analogy of a real world blending of two families that are coming off of bad divorces. Image artists with Marvel and Valiant with Shooter. The chaos of both of these events suddenly finding themselves thrust together for better or worse to try and make it work and obviously it didn't.

Just like a real blending of divorced families - some children get along - some don't - some get lost in the shuffle - some rebel against the change and turn bad. Archer is a prime example of the later.

As so often happens in this day and age the marriage does not work out and leads to an inevitable dissolution. Deathmate's inevitability -- the end of the universe. This story goes to the extreme in this process to the event that Social Services (Solar - Darque - Supreme) have to step in and try and save the children and their destructive behaviour.

It leads to a confrontation with the parents of this new family (Void & Solar the Explorer) and Social Services. It finally comes down to the legal system (Union) with evidence or in this case energy from Solar to come to the decision to divorce the parents and stabilize the lives of all involved with little or no consequences.

So in essence Deathmate is a social review of the struggles that can arise from the blending of two divorce families that not always are as compatible as they may think they are.

:? - Ok I read it and really I have no f*(^ing idea what the point of it was.


Dude, that is the single most interesting thing i have ever read in conjunction wih DM

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BruceReville wrote:So in essence Deathmate is a social review of the struggles that can arise from the blending of two divorce families that not always are as compatible as they may think they are.

:? - Ok I read it and really I have no f*(^ing idea what the point of it was.
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Somebody finally made sense of Deathmate? Isn't that one of the signs of the apocalypse? :P

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Nice review!

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Biggest headache I had was when I tried to put the books in some kind of reading order. Epilogue/Prologue - no problem. Blue as a direct lead-in to Epilogue works.

Black I placed before Blue due to the Union appearance which he didn't appear again until Epilogue.

Yellow/Red? I just went with the way the books were seemingl laying out.

Prologue(Valiant) - Red(Image) - Yellow(Valiant) - Black(Image) - Blue(Valiant) - Epilogue(Image) -- Basically: boy-girl-boy-girl.

If one had no prior knowledge of either universe this series would be completely confusing as prior back-knowledge is required. For those who did have back-knowledge it would be mind-boggling and frustrating to a point. Image books raped Valiant characters for the most part - Valiant books played too nicey/nice with Image characters and it made them (Valiant characters) come off wishy/washy.

Confusing read but I think it was ok for 3 dollars. I actually want to pick up the Previews now --- for the right price. :P

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BruceReville wrote:Biggest headache I had was when I tried to put the books in some kind of reading order. Epilogue/Prologue - no problem. Blue as a direct lead-in to Epilogue works.

Black I placed before Blue due to the Union appearance which he didn't appear again until Epilogue.

Yellow/Red? I just went with the way the books were seemingl laying out.

Prologue(Valiant) - Red(Image) - Yellow(Valiant) - Black(Image) - Blue(Valiant) - Epilogue(Image) -- Basically: boy-girl-boy-girl.

If one had no prior knowledge of either universe this series would be completely confusing as prior back-knowledge is required. For those who did have back-knowledge it would be mind-boggling and frustrating to a point. Image books raped Valiant characters for the most part - Valiant books played too nicey/nice with Image characters and it made them (Valiant characters) come off wishy/washy.

Confusing read but I think it was ok for 3 dollars. I actually want to pick up the Previews now --- for the right price. :P
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I think Bruce will fit in here just fine! :clap: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:


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