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Re: Book of Death: Legends of the Geomancer

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FormerReader wrote:
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erwinrafael wrote:Why then give speculators a story that only they could get? It's like they are forcing readers to spend like a speculator.
Why not let the market decide. We may find this book is much more affordable than we expect.

I don't understand getting worked up over something before it has even happened This comment is not directed at you erwinrafael, but in general).
Well, at the moment, my only option, as a digital customer is to preorder it to the tune of $35 an issue from Midtown Comics. (Because putting together a big enough order for DCBS's minimum in order to get ONE book, sorry, just isn't reasonable.)
I may not buy the book when it is first available (then again I may, not sure yet). I understand the frustration from your point of view. I guess my point is why not wait and see how this all works out. We may not all be able to get this series the day it comes out. That is annoying, but we may be able to get this series for under cover a month or two after the fact (or maybe not). I can't keep up with Valiant. I tried to get all the variants. That lasted for half a year. Then I tried to get all the golds. I still don't have Bloodshot #1 gold. I couldn't get a Unity 3d or Unity Red when they came out (I ended up paying $20 bucks for them a few months later). I then said I'll just get the reprints and convention exclusives.

I know the difference here is this is a separate story you want to read (as we all do) and I appreciate that, but I'm sure you will have the opportunity to read it whether you find it for sale after it is released or by some other method. No matter what has been solicited you will be able to get a copy of this story shortly after it is released.
Oh, I'll get to read it. VEI just won't get paid for it. I'd prefer to pay them for it, I really would. I love Valiant and want to support them. But, if they don't want to sell me a copy, I will pirate the hell out of it without hesitation or regret.

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DantePD wrote:
FormerReader wrote:
DantePD wrote:
FormerReader wrote:
erwinrafael wrote:Why then give speculators a story that only they could get? It's like they are forcing readers to spend like a speculator.
Why not let the market decide. We may find this book is much more affordable than we expect.

I don't understand getting worked up over something before it has even happened This comment is not directed at you erwinrafael, but in general).
Well, at the moment, my only option, as a digital customer is to preorder it to the tune of $35 an issue from Midtown Comics. (Because putting together a big enough order for DCBS's minimum in order to get ONE book, sorry, just isn't reasonable.)
I may not buy the book when it is first available (then again I may, not sure yet). I understand the frustration from your point of view. I guess my point is why not wait and see how this all works out. We may not all be able to get this series the day it comes out. That is annoying, but we may be able to get this series for under cover a month or two after the fact (or maybe not). I can't keep up with Valiant. I tried to get all the variants. That lasted for half a year. Then I tried to get all the golds. I still don't have Bloodshot #1 gold. I couldn't get a Unity 3d or Unity Red when they came out (I ended up paying $20 bucks for them a few months later). I then said I'll just get the reprints and convention exclusives.

I know the difference here is this is a separate story you want to read (as we all do) and I appreciate that, but I'm sure you will have the opportunity to read it whether you find it for sale after it is released or by some other method. No matter what has been solicited you will be able to get a copy of this story shortly after it is released.
Oh, I'll get to read it. VEI just won't get paid for it. I'd prefer to pay them for it, I really would. I love Valiant and want to support them. But, if they don't want to sell me a copy, I will pirate the hell out of it without hesitation or regret.
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Tim wrote:DCBS has the book for $1.99!!

There's a limit of 5 at that price and then they're 35% off!!
Pre-ordered a copy because that's a very reasonable pricing.

After reading the estimation and numbers here, let's wait and see the whole thing blows up in whose faces (likely those pre-ordered there).

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tiredofmyself wrote:
Tim wrote:DCBS has the book for $1.99!!

There's a limit of 5 at that price and then they're 35% off!!
Pre-ordered a copy because that's a very reasonable pricing.

After reading the estimation and numbers here, let's wait and see the whole thing blows up in whose faces (likely those pre-ordered there).
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I can not see DCBS honouring the order once they realize they need to order 125 copies of Book of the Dead per customer who has ordered 5 geomancers.

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I'm surprised that LotG is so heavily discounted at dcbs, but not surprised that a retailer would offer them at cover, especially since the base book is returnable. I placed an order with them and with TFAW. Hopefully one of them will honor those posted prices so I'll be covered. Assuming that does happen, I'd say that we're going to end up with at least some unhappy consumers, considering the price disparity that this book is being offered at.
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Paul Nolan wrote:I can not see DCBS honouring the order once they realize they need to order 125 copies of Book of the Dead per customer who has ordered 5 geomancers.
At the same time they manage that for roughly every two 1:60s ordered so it would be a shame if they adjust people's orders. Or maybe they end up returning 100 copies of every 125, which would really be a pity. We'll see.

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DCBS just adjusted it to the correct price $20.

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DCBS just sent email advising they made an error....book of death is $20!!!

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Welp
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DirtbagSailor wrote:
Paul Nolan wrote:
Tim wrote:DCBS has the book for $1.99!!

There's a limit of 5 at that price and then they're 35% off!!
Have some shops not been notified about the tie in regulations for purchase.?

Sounds like someone has cocked up there.
I placed an order for this (of course) but fully expect that DCBS will contact me shortly to tell me there has been an issue with my order.

Eithter that, or they will eat the cost and break the Valiant record for single book orders (Book Of Death) lol!
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*SQUEE* this

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TFAW still listed the book as regular pricing ($3.99 with 20% discount)... but it just became "NOT AVAILABLE".

http://www.tfaw.com/Profile/Book-Of-Dea ... 9___480754" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Either they are limiting the amounts to limit the number of Book of Death needed, or they are adjusting it soon LOL.

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The price is now $20 for Legends of the Geomancer at DCBS.

https://www.dcbservice.com/product/may1 ... l-discount" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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was this new style 'incentive' not clear on the Previews retailer stuff or something? and if two MAJOR retailers can muck up the listings, how many other shops won't notice until order day?

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Twenty dollars isn't so bad.

I think if the opportunity to pay $20 to support Valiant's growth efforts presented itself ten years ago when things looked bleakest for the return of our favourite comic book line, a majority of us would have jumped at the chance to do so without complaint.

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Donovan wrote:Twenty dollars isn't so bad.

I think if the opportunity to pay $20 to support Valiant's growth efforts presented itself ten years ago when things looked bleakest for the return of our favourite comic book line, a majority of us would have jumped at the chance to do so without complaint.
It's the difference between being starved and being spoiled.

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greg wrote:
Donovan wrote:Twenty dollars isn't so bad.

I think if the opportunity to pay $20 to support Valiant's growth efforts presented itself ten years ago when things looked bleakest for the return of our favourite comic book line, a majority of us would have jumped at the chance to do so without complaint.
It's the difference between being starved and being spoiled.
Agreed. Big time.

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Donovan wrote:Twenty dollars isn't so bad.

I think if the opportunity to pay $20 to support Valiant's growth efforts presented itself ten years ago when things looked bleakest for the return of our favourite comic book line, a majority of us would have jumped at the chance to do so without complaint.
facepalm

this argument is great in all walks of life.

"You can put up with a little a bit of homophobia, its not as bad as it would have been x years ago, so its okay"

but lets get back to the issue of Valiant making it difficult for Valiant fans to access Valiant comic books.

mainly because this isn't 2005.

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There's a huge difference in wanting to spend extra money to help a fledgeling comic book company with everything in the industry stacked against them and being gouged by a company with hundreds of millions of Chinese dollars behind them now.

The original Valiant did exclusive coupon books too when they were in their early days (and only twice in the history of the company, if I remember correctly as opposed to four times in four months), but once they became successful you never saw that again.

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Tim wrote:There's a huge difference in wanting to spend extra money to help a fledgeling comic book company with everything in the industry stacked against them and being gouged by a company with hundreds of millions of Chinese dollars behind them now.
This conversation would be so much more fun if VEI had been backed by the Vietnamese instead:

"a company with hundreds of millions of Dongs behind them now"
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First off, Valiant's promo and homophobia. LOL. Just.. no.

Second off, re: coupons. Both initiatives would have different goals. IMO, coupons wouldn't convince stores to order and push more books. This has a chance. It's an outside the box idea. I'm curious to see how it plays out. The millions of chinese dollars are going to have an effect years down the road. Valiant needs to gain ground in the comics area now.

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Donovan wrote:First off, Valiant's promo and homophobia. LOL. Just.. no.
just using scalability to illustrate the stupidity of the "we would have accepted it x years ago now, so its really alright now even though we're in a different era" argument
Donovan wrote:Second off, re: coupons. Both initiatives would have different goals. IMO, coupons wouldn't convince stores to order and push more books. This has a chance. It's an outside the box idea. I'm curious to see how it plays out. The millions of chinese dollars are going to have an effect years down the road. Valiant needs to gain ground in the comics area now.
Well I'm presuming DCBS and TFAW are theoretically cancelling a load of prospective Valiant comic sales at the moment.

:hm:

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I doubt those Chinese yuan can be diverted from movie-making to their comics-crafting.

Also, one thing needs to be made clear:

DMG Entertainment is secretly American.

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tiredofmyself wrote:
DMG Entertainment is secretly American.
So, like the opposite of Lee Harvey Oswald?
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