Harbinger #1 CGC 9.8s on eBay (past and current auctions)

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:09 pm

I still believe that CGC significantly loosened their requirements for CGC 9.8 for this book.

Yes, there should be more than 18 (or whatever the count was when the sales were $2,000+)...
but moving up to 62 in a very short period of time and at a frequency
much higher than at any time in the past is indicative that standards changed.

I've got a small stack of CGC 9.6 of this book...
I wonder how many would be CGC 9.8 if I resubmit?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:50 pm

greg wrote:I still believe that CGC significantly loosened their requirements for CGC 9.8 for this book.

Yes, there should be more than 18 (or whatever the count was when the sales were $2,000+)...
but moving up to 62 in a very short period of time and at a frequency
much higher than at any time in the past is indicative that standards changed.

I've got a small stack of CGC 9.6 of this book...
I wonder how many would be CGC 9.8 if I resubmit?

And drive the prices down even more.....

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:07 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
greg wrote:I still believe that CGC significantly loosened their requirements for CGC 9.8 for this book.

Yes, there should be more than 18 (or whatever the count was when the sales were $2,000+)...
but moving up to 62 in a very short period of time and at a frequency
much higher than at any time in the past is indicative that standards changed.

I've got a small stack of CGC 9.6 of this book...
I wonder how many would be CGC 9.8 if I resubmit?

And drive the prices down even more.....

Here's a fun experiment...

When there were 18 copies of Harbinger #1 CGC 9.8,
there were a couple of sales at $2,000+, but the "going rate"
was probably closer to $1,000 or $1,200 if you average the
sales before and after the top of the spike.

18 times $1,200 = $21,600

Now there are 62 copies of Harbinger #1 CGC 9.8

$21,600 divided by 62 = $348

What is the current price of CGC 9.8 Harbinger #1? Is it about $348?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:21 pm

greg wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
greg wrote:I still believe that CGC significantly loosened their requirements for CGC 9.8 for this book.

Yes, there should be more than 18 (or whatever the count was when the sales were $2,000+)...
but moving up to 62 in a very short period of time and at a frequency
much higher than at any time in the past is indicative that standards changed.

I've got a small stack of CGC 9.6 of this book...
I wonder how many would be CGC 9.8 if I resubmit?

And drive the prices down even more.....
Here's a fun experiment...

When there were 18 copies of Harbinger #1 CGC 9.8,
there were a couple of sales at $2,000+, but the "going rate"
was probably closer to $1,000 or $1,200 if you average the
sales before and after the top of the spike.

18 times $1,200 = $21,600

Now there are 62 copies of Harbinger #1 CGC 9.8

$21,600 divided by 62 = $348

What is the current price of CGC 9.8 Harbinger #1? Is it about $348?

Hahaha...I'm surprised you didn't make a graph as well....

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:24 pm

greg wrote:Here's a fun experiment...

When there were 18 copies of Harbinger #1 CGC 9.8,
there were a couple of sales at $2,000+, but the "going rate"
was probably closer to $1,000 or $1,200 if you average the
sales before and after the top of the spike.

18 times $1,200 = $21,600

Now there are 62 copies of Harbinger #1 CGC 9.8

$21,600 divided by 62 = $348

What is the current price of CGC 9.8 Harbinger #1? Is it about $348?

Does that mean the 1st copy sell for $21,600?

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:35 pm

iggy101us wrote:
greg wrote:Here's a fun experiment...

When there were 18 copies of Harbinger #1 CGC 9.8,
there were a couple of sales at $2,000+, but the "going rate"
was probably closer to $1,000 or $1,200 if you average the
sales before and after the top of the spike.

18 times $1,200 = $21,600

Now there are 62 copies of Harbinger #1 CGC 9.8

$21,600 divided by 62 = $348

What is the current price of CGC 9.8 Harbinger #1? Is it about $348?
Does that mean the 1st copy sell for $21,600?

No, it means that if 61 are destroyed and no others are added to the census, the last one will be worth $21,600.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:15 pm

This was listed by thelatinsensation yesterday with $9.99 starting price with no reserve. This is a good test for the current market price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0585555049

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:44 pm

cool on the watch list

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:14 am

iggy101us wrote:This was listed by thelatinsensation yesterday with $9.99 starting price with no reserve. This is a good test for the current market price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0585555049

I like to see this, but im guessing it will either get pulled and relisted, or bumped up to $300-400 anyway.

dhudson1 · Post by **dhudson1** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:25 pm

Draco wrote:
iggy101us wrote:This was listed by thelatinsensation yesterday with $9.99 starting price with no reserve. This is a good test for the current market price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0585555049
I like to see this, but im guessing it will either get pulled and relisted, or bumped up to $300-400 anyway.

Good guess, $393.88. Guess I will have to happy with my 9.8 sans coupon, too rich for my blood still.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:10 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0435751970

latinsensation listed another copy for sale but the serial number is the same as the one he listed recently. I send him a message to see if the sale fell thru. Will share when he replies.

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:05 pm

iggy101us wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0435751970

latinsensation listed another copy for sale but the serial number is the same as the one he listed recently. I send him a message to see if the sale fell thru. Will share when he replies.

So either a buyer who decided against, or a case of shill bidding, which is probably not too uncommon on items like this.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:15 pm

Draco wrote:
iggy101us wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0435751970

latinsensation listed another copy for sale but the serial number is the same as the one he listed recently. I send him a message to see if the sale fell thru. Will share when he replies.
So either a buyer who decided against, or a case of shill bidding, which is probably not too uncommon on items like this.

Got a reply from the seller. He said it's a different copy. He's just using the same pic.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:04 pm

iggy101us wrote:
Draco wrote:
iggy101us wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0435751970

latinsensation listed another copy for sale but the serial number is the same as the one he listed recently. I send him a message to see if the sale fell thru. Will share when he replies.
So either a buyer who decided against, or a case of shill bidding, which is probably not too uncommon on items like this.

Got a reply from the seller. He said it's a different copy. He's just using the same pic.

Seller said serial # is 0986774008 and he will update pic later. 1st post updated.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:08 pm

He gave me the same info.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:30 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0435751970

Ended at $392.55

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:37 pm

not too shabby

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:12 pm

superman-prime wrote:not too shabby

Yup. The seller got practically the same price for them.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:14 am

iggy101us wrote:
superman-prime wrote:not too shabby
Yup. The seller got practically the same price for them.

He sent me a scan on the day the listing ended and book looked excellent. It was in an old style inner well and I couldn't see anything with the corners or spine.

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:45 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0439037238

Another copy up for sale from thelatinsensation. His 3rd copy in the last 3 weeks.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:00 am

prices are not going to go much lower hoarders will keep them up a bit

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:08 pm

Dr Eclipse just listed a copy for sale

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0675685507

I couldn't see the serial # from the pic and I sent him a message.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:30 am

iggy101us wrote:Dr Eclipse just listed a copy for sale

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0675685507

I couldn't see the serial # from the pic and I sent him a message.

Ended already?

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:54 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
iggy101us wrote:Dr Eclipse just listed a copy for sale

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0675685507

I couldn't see the serial # from the pic and I sent him a message.
Ended already?

Weird. He got back with the serial # 0951842008.

ian_house · Post by **ian_house** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:11 am

What's weird?