Harbinger #4 Cover Original Art

justin · Post by **justin** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:31 am

Will wrote:smell of shill?

I contacted the bidder, he is a board member!

-j

Will · Post by **Will** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:51 pm

Good to know, Arch. Tx.

justin · Post by **justin** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:52 pm

Will wrote:Good to know, Arch. Tx.

Yeah, I was wondering about it as well. But I think the price he is willing to pay, the art will go to a good home!

-j

Will · Post by **Will** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:44 pm

Why the secrecy?

jduran2 · Post by **jduran2** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:55 pm

Will wrote:Why the secrecy?

Yea the secrecy doesn't make sense.

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:44 pm

I was going to be bidding on this but with the seller only having 7 feedback and 2 bidders with less than 1, I am not taking the chance with $500+.

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:23 pm

I requested a larger size scan from the seller
(who identified herself as Renee).

http://sonicdan.com/Valiantart/Harbinger4DLcover.jpg

DAN

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:21 am

sonicdan wrote:I requested a larger size scan from the seller
(who identified herself as Renee).

http://sonicdan.com/Valiantart/Harbinger4DLcover.jpg

DAN

Now that's what I call a large scan.

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:29 am

sonicdan wrote:I requested a larger size scan from the seller
(who identified herself as Renee).

http://sonicdan.com/Valiantart/Harbinger4DLcover.jpg

DAN

I don't doubt it is a real scan of the artwork just that my rtrust factor is very low. I mean David lapham seems like a better business person than to sell his artwork like this. I mean he probably has 100's of fans at every show asking him to sell his work for the past several years. just seems odd to let someone with so few sales to sell for him.

justin · Post by **justin** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:32 am

x-omatic wrote:
sonicdan wrote:I requested a larger size scan from the seller
(who identified herself as Renee).

http://sonicdan.com/Valiantart/Harbinger4DLcover.jpg

DAN
I don't doubt it is a real scan of the artwork just that my rtrust factor is very low. I mean David lapham seems like a better business person than to sell his artwork like this. I mean he probably has 100's of fans at every show asking him to sell his work for the past several years. just seems odd to let someone with so few sales to sell for him.

I think, he is throwing a feelier out there to see how much his work can pull in on eBay, then he will add some predetermined amount to it and sell it on his own site, bypassing eBay and all the bogus fees associated with it!

-j

justin · Post by **justin** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:35 am

sonicdan wrote:....who identified herself as Renee

DAN

Anyone want to take a guess as to his wife or exwifes name??? Anyone remember what had happened to Rags with his first wife? She sold his work cheeeeeeeeap!

-j

Will · Post by **Will** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:05 am

x-omatic wrote:I was going to be bidding on this but with the seller only having 7 feedback and 2 bidders with less than 1, I am not taking the chance with $500+.

I agree with this. We're talking about a heck of a lot of money to be throwing around with 3 or 4 eBay members we know nothing about (the seller, two or three of the bidders). It's just too easy to get screwed.

daydreamscomics · Post by **daydreamscomics** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:24 pm

magnusr wrote:Btw, had I been interested in this cover, I would have preferred some little indication of why this seller is selling for David Lapham.

/Magnus

i've bought some ed benes pieces off ebay from mr. benes's agent. given that he's busy drawing superman right now, it makes sense to have someone who represents you sell your stuff than to do it yourself. i'd guess he doesn't have a lot of free time.

Valiant OCD · Post by **Valiant OCD** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:14 pm

Will wrote:smell of shill?

I wondered about that too. But why shill for $40.00? If I were Omm'a I'd be a bit concerned. But again. If your honest highest bid is higher than the rest, what's the harm?

daydreamscomics · Post by **daydreamscomics** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:48 pm

x-omatic wrote:just seems odd to let someone with so few sales to sell for him.

every seller has to start somewhere. all of us who sell on ebay started out with 0 feedback. it's only because people have given us the chance to prove what we can do that we have higher feedback.

if mr. lapham were to sell them himself on ebay, he'd probably have to create an account, and would have no feedback. better to use one that has a track record (even a small one) to sell high dollar stuff like this.

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:22 pm

daydreamscomics wrote:
x-omatic wrote:just seems odd to let someone with so few sales to sell for him.
every seller has to start somewhere. all of us who sell on ebay started out with 0 feedback. it's only because people have given us the chance to prove what we can do that we have higher feedback.

if mr. lapham were to sell them himself on ebay, he'd probably have to create an account, and would have no feedback. better to use one that has a track record (even a small one) to sell high dollar stuff like this.

I can tell you that if he were to post them on his website I certainly would be willing to pay much more than through a questionable ebay account.

cornflakeboy · Post by **cornflakeboy** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:22 am

Lots of great comic artist sell their art pieces through representatives, either eBay or via webpages. I see no problem here, although I agree the "new account factor" maybe seen as a potential risk, especially for those of us who have ever had a bad experience with sellers.This one seems legit to me . Maybe the best way to be 100% sure everythings for good is seeing if mr Lapham is really selling his art via website in november, as the seller sated in his auction, or a direct contact with Lapham himself via e-mail.

dave · Post by **dave** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:12 pm

and if they are selling stuff for mr lapham, and they are board members-why did boda have to bring it to our attention? it would have been much better to come on here and say hey...i work for lapham and we're considering selling...and then sell-plus, selling harby 4 to "get a feel" for the market is absurd-that is one that will command the highest price-what other cover of his would go higher? shadowman 1-3?

VH69 · Post by **VH69** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:23 pm

dave wrote:and if they are selling stuff for mr lapham, and they are board members-why did boda have to bring it to our attention? it would have been much better to come on here and say hey...i work for lapham and we're considering selling...and then sell-plus, selling harby 4 to "get a feel" for the market is absurd-that is one that will command the highest price-what other cover of his would go higher? shadowman 1-3?

I think these would do better.

mrwoogieman · Post by **mrwoogieman** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:54 pm

Is that the original cover art to Shadowman 1?

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:31 pm

dave wrote:and if they are selling stuff for mr lapham, and they are board members-why did boda have to bring it to our attention? it would have been much better to come on here and say hey...i work for lapham and we're considering selling...and then sell-plus, selling harby 4 to "get a feel" for the market is absurd-that is one that will command the highest price-what other cover of his would go higher? shadowman 1-3?

Was it established the seller was a board member?
If so I didn't catch that. I thought it was said the high bidder was a board member.
In any event, yeah a lot of artists have reps to handle art sales. Esp.
those with a higher profile and working alot, like Lapham.
I don't see anything that unusual about the sale. Yeah the seller has low
feedback, but as it's been mentioned you gotta start somewhere.
Also, they are probably seeing what the interest is and if anything
underestimated what the demand may potentially be.
This cover should bring over $1000+ unless bidders are conservative
based on the feedback.
DAN

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:36 pm

mrwoogieman wrote:Is that the original cover art to Shadowman 1?

The pencils and inking are different. It is either an unfinished cover or a reproduction of the cover. So what is it VH69? You can't just post a picture like that and not tell us.

VH69 · Post by **VH69** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:23 am

x-omatic wrote:
mrwoogieman wrote:Is that the original cover art to Shadowman 1?

The pencils and inking are different. It is either an unfinished cover or a reproduction of the cover. So what is it VH69? You can't just post a picture like that and not tell us.

It's the original pencils to the cover

Will · Post by **Will** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:31 am

VH69 wrote:
x-omatic wrote:
mrwoogieman wrote:Is that the original cover art to Shadowman 1?

The pencils and inking are different. It is either an unfinished cover or a reproduction of the cover. So what is it VH69? You can't just post a picture like that and not tell us.
It's the original pencils to the cover

How did it get the hell beaten out of it?

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:16 am

Will wrote:
VH69 wrote:How did it get the hell beaten out of it?

Exactly what I was thinking, Will.

-slym