Curious....

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:08 am

Good lord, the same ol' ignorant "comics were meant for reading" crap people always seem to write down on these boards

do any of you actally READ these threads

and try and ascertain knowledge from them??? or do you simply write to rant?...because the reasons, and benefits to slabbing have been discussed adnauseum

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:36 am

Yeah, posting the same ol' tired crap over and over again does get pretty tedious.

BTW, absolutely NO part of that statement is aimed at you, Pete.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:00 pm

Knightt_333 wrote:I write to rant, write to b*tch, whatever I want to write about... cause I can.

If I want to talk about the reason I like to keep books out of slabs or have the occassional book IN a slab, that is my right to do so and I exercise it upon my whim. I plan on practicing this more in the future when things cool down a bit.

If you look at it ALL the topics on this board have been gone over and over again. So why even post hmmmm ?

To discuss... thats why.

To make an occassional 'funny'... thats why.

To perhaps learn something... thats why.

To have someone complain about the content of my post... thats wh...... no wait, that is NOT one of the reasons why.

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:37 pm

Knightt_333 wrote:I write to rant, write to b*tch, whatever I want to write about... cause I can.

If I want to talk about the reason I like to keep books out of slabs or have the occassional book IN a slab, that is my right to do so and I exercise it upon my whim. I plan on practicing this more in the future when things cool down a bit.

If you look at it ALL the topics on this board have been gone over and over again. So why even post hmmmm ?

To discuss... thats why.

To make an occassional 'funny'... thats why.

To perhaps learn something... thats why.

To have someone complain about the content of my post... thats wh...... no wait, that is NOT one of the reasons why.

This was in response to me?...I didn't know you were the target of my post

Oh well, some are naturally dissputatious

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:10 pm

We just got diss(putatious)-ed.

svair · Post by **svair** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:15 pm

Disputatious ...

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:17 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:

We just got diss(putatious)-ed.

ibreakhorses · Post by **ibreakhorses** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:28 pm

Knightt_333 wrote:I write to rant, write to b*tch, whatever I want to write about... cause I can.

If I want to talk about the reason I like to keep books out of slabs or have the occassional book IN a slab, that is my right to do so and I exercise it upon my whim. I plan on practicing this more in the future when things cool down a bit.

If you look at it ALL the topics on this board have been gone over and over again. So why even post hmmmm ?

To discuss... thats why.

To make an occassional 'funny'... thats why.

Good post.

To perhaps learn something... thats why.

To have someone complain about the content of my post... thats wh...... no wait, that is NOT one of the reasons why.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:42 pm

I agree with ibreakhorses.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:56 pm

Peter Parker wrote:Good lord, the same ol' ignorant "comics were meant for reading" crap people always seem to write down on these boards

do any of you actally READ these threads and try and ascertain knowledge from them??? or do you simply write to rant?...because the reasons, and benefits to slabbing have been discussed adnauseum

Reasons? I say opinions... and what benefits are there? It's not archivally safe, and CGC recommends you have them re-slabbed every 7 years - what a hassle.

It's all opinion, Peter, and as much as I can't take away yours, you can't take away mine. IMO, there is no real reason to have a book slabbed other than if one were to sell said book so the buyer could be (relatively) assured of the condition of the book. No matter what the label may say, the label itself doesn't make the book any prettier. I have valuable books, and I own reprints of said books to actually read so I won't potentially damage the valuable ones, but (again IMO) I don't see the need to slab the one that's valuable. Besides, Mylars protect the book better and don't need to be changed, ever.

Argue away, if you want... it won't change my opinion.

-slym (didn't know actually READING a comic was a sign of ignorance)

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:36 pm

slym2none wrote: No matter what the label may say, the label itself doesn't make the book any prettier.

It could be argued that the slab and label presentation does make the book's presentation prettier, I guess.

slym2none wrote:-slym (didn't know actually READING a comic was a sign of ignorance)

Ignorance, maybe not, but dorkiness, definitely!

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:43 pm

Amen, Knight!!!

A question was asked. Opinions were solicited. In response, opinions were given and a question was answered.

I don't see a problem here.

GGSAE · Post by **GGSAE** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:46 pm

400yrs wrote:
slym2none wrote: No matter what the label may say, the label itself doesn't make the book any prettier.
Ignorance, maybe not, but dorkiness, definitely!

Anyone catch SNL last night with Colin Farell with SNL cast trying to pickup lyndsey lohan...
(seth meyers) 'hey lyndsey, do you uh...like comics'.

Valiant OCD · Post by **Valiant OCD** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:46 pm

apologies.

GGSAE · Post by **GGSAE** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:48 pm

Valiant OCD wrote:
Peter Parker wrote:Good lord, the same ol' ignorant "comics were meant for reading" crap people always seem to write down on these boards

do any of you actally READ these threads and try and ascertain knowledge from them??? or do you simply write to rant?...because the reasons, and benefits to slabbing have been discussed adnauseum
You know whats really "ignorant"? Consistantly implying or flat out calling everyone who has a different opinion "ignorant"....... Or, a facist, or a liberal fag, or any of the truly ignorant things that come from small minded cowardly geeks who hide behing computers and pop off at the mouth in a way they wouldn't dream of doing in person ......................

OHHHHHHH SNAP!!

Ricomortis · Post by **Ricomortis** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:37 pm

I am still curious if anyone else wants to answer my original question. Thanks!

Rico

Ricomortis · Post by **Ricomortis** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:45 pm

soundoftheuniverse wrote:I've got a short box of potential 9.8's and a few Magnus 1's that I think are 9.9 or 10. Most of my Valiants I bought from local collectors here in seattle who where EXTREMELY ANAL collectors. Almost all of my #1's where still in the oriiginal 10/12 packs the way they were shipped from Diamond. From there they went into Mylites.

Once you've got a dozen or so 9.6's and 9.8's it's not tough to tell the differences between the two. The only book I've sold ungraded that got graded thought was 9.8 Unity Red came back by Boda a 9.6.

As Greg's explained a few times in the past. That 9.6's can be the verge of being a 9.8 or on the low end and nearly a 9.4. I feel good I've got a load of 9.8's ungraded but no urgency to get them slabbed atm.

SOTU! Now that is what I'm talking about. Haven't seen you around in a while, its good to hear from you.

I believe you have that many high grade books, for I know you have a many a high grade slabbed valiants.

You ought to register your slabs in the CGC Registry. I know you would do well.

Rico

greg · Post by **greg** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:42 pm

Ricomortis wrote:

I am still curious if anyone else wants to answer my original question. Thanks!

Rico

I have lots of Valiants I bought from Ebay in the 1997-1999 timeframe.
Honestly, I'm not sure I want to take a closer look at them
now that 9.6 and 9.8 are the standards (and I own examples).
Most were described as "near mint", but you know how that goes.

I consider my Valiant collection as a "time capsule" for early Ebay...
I paid early Ebay prices, and I got early Ebay grading... for better or worse.
(...and it's already been 5 years since I've looked in most of the boxes.)

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:59 am

GGSAE wrote:
Valiant OCD wrote:
Peter Parker wrote:Good lord, the same ol' ignorant "comics were meant for reading" crap people always seem to write down on these boards

do any of you actally READ these threads and try and ascertain knowledge from them??? or do you simply write to rant?...because the reasons, and benefits to slabbing have been discussed adnauseum
You know whats really "ignorant"? Consistantly implying or flat out calling everyone who has a different opinion "ignorant"....... Or, a facist, or a liberal fag, or any of the truly ignorant things that come from small minded cowardly geeks who hide behing computers and pop off at the mouth in a way they wouldn't dream of doing in person ......................

OHHHHHHH SNAP!!

Couldn't find that original post, you must have cut and pasted it from another thread

Hey, i'll not only stand behind EVERYTHING i write on these boards, i'll be more than happy to "meet up" with anyone in person at anytime :x

I'm no geek, no freak, and I don't scare AT ALL

...so please, take YOUR obvious ignorance and get to steppin'

Half of you didn't even UNDERSTAND my original point in my posting to begin with, so what you're responding to is beyond my knowledge

Remember, Savir has a NYC VCC meeting coming up correct? anyone who wants to meet me in person for a "work out" just let me know ...yeah, right

...don't make a mistake and mistake ME for some punk, you'll be quite mistaken and sorry for doing so...i've been defending myself all my life!

and also do so for a living.

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:00 pm

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:42 pm

Peter Parker,

I don't know anything about you or how you may or may not treat people in person compared to how you would treat them here. But I do know this: There was a very pleasant conversation going on here until you came in and called people's comments and opinions "ignorant." If you don't have anything to add to the conversation, just keep quiet and move on to another thread. There was really no need for that.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:35 pm

Heath wrote:Peter Parker,

I don't know anything about you or how you may or may not treat people in person compared to how you would treat them here. But I do know this: There was a very pleasant conversation going on here until you came in and called people's comments and opinions "ignorant." If you don't have anything to add to the conversation, just keep quiet and move on to another thread. There was really no need for that.

Go back and re-read this and you will see that Peter Parker was and is the one who is defending himself ( in his own way ) because of his opinion on grading comics.
His opinion was attacked by other members who seen to have a problem with him........don't be one too just because it's the cool thing to do.
Remember, opinions are like a$$holes.........Everyone has one.

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:42 pm

And to answer the original question...

Ricomortis wrote: How many of you seriously think you don't own one HG valiant worth sending in to cgc?

I do. I have a Shadowman #0 Gold that is immaculate. Sure, it's not a rare pre-Unity issue, but it's something.

Actually, since I have several other copies of the regular #0, I may actually send it it. It would be the first CGC for me.

I'm quite confident it could get a 9.8. But if I do send it in, I'll let you guys know what grade it gets.

Heath · Post by **Heath** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:42 pm

jedimarley wrote:Go back and re-read this and you will see that Peter Parker was and is the one who is defending himself ( in his own way ) because of his opinion on grading comics.
His opinion was attacked by other members who seen to have a problem with him........don't be one too just because it's the cool thing to do.
Remember, opinions are like a$$holes.........Everyone has one.

I really don't think his opinion was "attacked" at all. Unless someone voicing an opinion that may be different from his is considered an "attack." Nobody ever called his opinions about slabbing books ignorant crap (unless in another thread that I haven't seen). That post of his (which was his 2nd post in this thread) was the first attack here.

And just to be clear, I'm still not "attacking" his opinion on CGC'd books. I really don't care what he does with his own books. All I'm saying is there was no need to be a jerk about it.

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:26 pm

Ricomortis wrote:

I am still curious if anyone else wants to answer my original question. Thanks!

Rico

Way to lay the smack down, rico!

I've got about a short box full of 9.6s+ I might submit one day, but I'm happy with them ungraded for now. For the most part, the stuff that I buy through ebay or find in bins isn't NM. If I CAN find those real nice copies in person at cons and what not, I'm often willing to pay close to or over guide depending on what it is.

I'm sure there are still a lot of nice copies out there, but not THAT many. They are tough to come by.

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