Wow, huge slap in the face to kickstarter supporters

[MartinAlien]

It's not meant to come out before the Kickstarter.

That's it.

Then get the communication flowing right.

DMG is making Alien look like A-HOLES. Find a way to get them to respond to the backers and make an update. And then they need to follow through and send out the book.

Until then, Alien Books looks like liars and crooks.

DMG is STILL mismanaging Valiant.

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Alien is not running the Kickstarter. It would be irresponsible for Alien to speak on behalf of DMG unless specifically requested by DMG.

[slack]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

[syzhang28]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

[MartinAlien]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

[Ryan]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

Most of us appreciate you coming on here. A few are angry about the kickstarter.

It's clear that Alien has no control over the kickstarter, and they've said they won't put the softcover out until the kickstarter is fulfilled. What more can they do?

I really hope you and Danielle keep posting here. And I hope everyone shows some patience.

[ManofTheAtom]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

Please don't.

[slack]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

Definitely not trying to silence you.
but I would appreciate it if you guys were a touch better at damage control. the first few responses sounded basically like, "different format, tuff tiddies"
it took some more angry responses before y'all started saying you wouldn't sell the book until after the Kickstarter shipped.
you should likely not have solicited the book at all until after DMG made some serious strides towards adressing the Kickstarter.

but please, don't just leave.

[daniellew61]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

Definitely not trying to silence you.
but I would appreciate it if you guys were a touch better at damage control. the first few responses sounded basically like, "different format, tuff tiddies"
it took some more angry responses before y'all started saying you wouldn't sell the book until after the Kickstarter shipped.
you should likely not have solicited the book at all until after DMG made some serious strides towards adressing the Kickstarter.

but please, don't just leave.

Honestly, for me, I was just confused about what the issue was at first since it's so far off, different format etc. Legit wasn't understanding the anger. Could have solicited it much later, sure but I can't hold up my own progress in getting things done and in the system. I'd rather get finished books we can release out of the way as fast as we can so we can get to new new new new new material.

[MartinAlien]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

Definitely not trying to silence you.
but I would appreciate it if you guys were a touch better at damage control. the first few responses sounded basically like, "different format, tuff tiddies"
it took some more angry responses before y'all started saying you wouldn't sell the book until after the Kickstarter shipped.
you should likely not have solicited the book at all until after DMG made some serious strides towards adressing the Kickstarter.

but please, don't just leave.

No, I never felt silenced, but after all the heat, it's better to get back to silent mode rather than keep infuriating people.

As Dani explained, this wasn't a solicitation per se. For the book market, you need to share your publishing plan months in advance, up to 8 months. Diamond was as surprised as us that it got leaked. They even offered to take the info down, but that would've made things worse.

All of it has been cleared now.

[ManofTheAtom]

No, I never felt silenced, but after all the heat, it's better to get back to silent mode rather than keep infuriating people.

That sucks.

[MartinAlien]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

Definitely not trying to silence you.
but I would appreciate it if you guys were a touch better at damage control. the first few responses sounded basically like, "different format, tuff tiddies"
it took some more angry responses before y'all started saying you wouldn't sell the book until after the Kickstarter shipped.
you should likely not have solicited the book at all until after DMG made some serious strides towards adressing the Kickstarter.

but please, don't just leave.

Honestly, for me, I was just confused about what the issue was at first since it's so far off, different format etc. Legit wasn't understanding the anger. Could have solicited it much later, sure but I can't hold up my own progress in getting things done and in the system. I'd rather get finished books we can release out of the way as fast as we can so we can get to new new new new new material.

That was the case. We needed finished books to begin, while we prepared new material. That's why the softcover was added to the plan.

[Ryan]

As Dani explained, this wasn't a solicitation per se. For the book market, you need to share your publishing plan months in advance, up to 8 months. Diamond was as surprised as us that it got leaked. They even offered to take the info down, but that would've made things worse.

All of it has been cleared now.

That all makes sense, it's not even a Diamond solicitation.

No, I never felt silenced, but after all the heat, it's better to get back to silent mode rather than keep infuriating people.

I hope you keep posting. The Valiant fans are actually mostly really nice, and also passionate as you can see. We all value you coming on here and you should know that you're more than welcome here.

[slack]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

Definitely not trying to silence you.
but I would appreciate it if you guys were a touch better at damage control. the first few responses sounded basically like, "different format, tuff tiddies"
it took some more angry responses before y'all started saying you wouldn't sell the book until after the Kickstarter shipped.
you should likely not have solicited the book at all until after DMG made some serious strides towards adressing the Kickstarter.

but please, don't just leave.

No, I never felt silenced, but after all the heat, it's better to get back to silent mode rather than keep infuriating people.

As Dani explained, this wasn't a solicitation per se. For the book market, you need to share your publishing plan months in advance, up to 8 months. Diamond was as surprised as us that it got leaked. They even offered to take the info down, but that would've made things worse.

All of it has been cleared now.

All that being said...
regarding Eternal Warrior Scorched Earth: I don't believe you guys until the Kickstarter book is in my hands. Too much BS surrounding it at this point for me to feel anything but skeptical.

[Ryan]

The passion of the fans can be a double-edged sword. Part of it is more scrutiny and sometimes maybe what can seem like unfair scrutiny.

But the alternative is what most indy (non-big 2) comic book companies have, very few people who care about what they're doing at all.

The truth is the kickstarter is a bad look for the brand right now. It doesn't matter who's at fault, it would be beneficial for the Alien people to try to get word to their parent company, however they can do it, to try and get them to fulfill the kickstarter asap or at least give an update/explanation to the backers.

There are a lot of passionate Valiant fans who don't read the boards or social media. Things like this and the NFT, etc. can make even the most loyal and dedicated fans quit Valiant. Those 10 year, 20 year, and 30 year fans can be hard to replace, they're the backbone of Valiant.

[syzhang28]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

The answer to getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar is not to say "well, i'm just never gonna eat anything ever again then'. Own what happened. Earn back the trust. You guys look like bad guys right now. We all know DMG is putting you in a tough spot but that doesn't excuse the manipulation of us by you guys. Own it. Also, honestly, you really shouldn't even be posting here. Dinesh was one of the biggest posters on here until he became the Valiant CEO ie stopped being just a fan. Then he let this be the fan space. Kevin Feige doesn't post in MCU boards. George Lucas doesn't post on Star Wars boards. I'm sure they read them but they don't get sucked into a can't win situation. You guys can be very successful. The opportunity with Valiant is really big. But you have to be honest, make great comics and own your mistakes.

[ManofTheAtom]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

The answer to getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar is not to say "well, i'm just never gonna eat anything ever again then'. Own what happened. Earn back the trust. You guys look like bad guys right now. We all know DMG is putting you in a tough spot but that doesn't excuse the manipulation of us by you guys. Own it. Also, honestly, you really shouldn't even be posting here. Dinesh was one of the biggest posters on here until he became the Valiant CEO ie stopped being just a fan. Then he let this be the fan space. Kevin Feige doesn't post in MCU boards. George Lucas doesn't post on Star Wars boards. I'm sure they read them but they don't get sucked into a can't win situation. You guys can be very successful. The opportunity with Valiant is really big. But you have to be honest, make great comics and own your mistakes.

Please stop pushing people from VALIANT away.

[Ryan]

So guilty until proven otherwise, right?

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

The answer to getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar is not to say "well, i'm just never gonna eat anything ever again then'. Own what happened. Earn back the trust. You guys look like bad guys right now. We all know DMG is putting you in a tough spot but that doesn't excuse the manipulation of us by you guys. Own it. Also, honestly, you really shouldn't even be posting here. Dinesh was one of the biggest posters on here until he became the Valiant CEO ie stopped being just a fan. Then he let this be the fan space. Kevin Feige doesn't post in MCU boards. George Lucas doesn't post on Star Wars boards. I'm sure they read them but they don't get sucked into a can't win situation. You guys can be very successful. The opportunity with Valiant is really big. But you have to be honest, make great comics and own your mistakes.

Please stop pushing people from VALIANT away.

I think I understand it a little better now. So Alien is basically a subcontractor of Valiant, hired to do the specific job of creating comic books. Valiant Entertainment/DMG is just the owner of the IPs now, and presumably still involved with trying to get the properties into other mediums, hiring other subcontractors to produce things like video games, tv shows, etc.

In that case, it might not be the place for a subcontractor to get involved with the owner's previous business ventures (non-Alien produced comics done before they were brought in). This is understandable.

However it's still a bad look to publish a version of the kickstarter GN before the backers (the people who paid to get it produced 2 years ago) get their books or even get an update. It's confusing that Alien could publish a softcover version of the same book, so why can't they just publish the HC version and send it out to the backers? Why would they be blocked from doing that?

It's been explained that they won't publish the SC version before the HC is fulfilled. That's reassuring. But it doesn't seem like something this simple should cause this much trouble

I'm hoping everyone from Alien will continue to post here. It can be awkward sometimes because fans and people on the inside can have very different perspectives on the same thing. As fans we only see the end product.

But the reason there are paying jobs at Valiant is because there's a built-in fanbase. Having a built-in fanbase comes with expectations and scrutiny.

[ManofTheAtom]

Yes.

this isn't a court of law, it's a court of public opinion. here if it looks like a duck and quacks a duck....

Well said.

And MartinAlien, you need a LOT of media training. These responses on this thread are terrible. Zero empathy. You guys already look like incompetent villains. Twice now you've pleaded "durp, we didn't know that news would come out". Mistakes happen. In fact, they are usually a great way to earn trust. But its all in how you handle them AND not repeating them.

My expertise is not media, I just came here to share (real) inside knowledge. Didn't realize I'd *SQUEE* people off from doing that. Learned my lesson, I'll shut up now.

The answer to getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar is not to say "well, i'm just never gonna eat anything ever again then'. Own what happened. Earn back the trust. You guys look like bad guys right now. We all know DMG is putting you in a tough spot but that doesn't excuse the manipulation of us by you guys. Own it. Also, honestly, you really shouldn't even be posting here. Dinesh was one of the biggest posters on here until he became the Valiant CEO ie stopped being just a fan. Then he let this be the fan space. Kevin Feige doesn't post in MCU boards. George Lucas doesn't post on Star Wars boards. I'm sure they read them but they don't get sucked into a can't win situation. You guys can be very successful. The opportunity with Valiant is really big. But you have to be honest, make great comics and own your mistakes.

Please stop pushing people from VALIANT away.

I think I understand it a little better now. So Alien is basically a subcontractor of Valiant, hired to do the specific job of creating comic books. Valiant Entertainment/DMG is just the owner of the IPs now, and presumably still involved with trying to get the properties into other mediums, hiring other subcontractors to produce things like video games, tv shows, etc.

In that case, it might not be the place for a subcontractor to get involved with the owner's previous business ventures (non-Alien produced comics done before they were brought in). This is understandable.

However it's still a bad look to publish a version of the kickstarter GN before the backers (the people who paid to get it produced 2 years ago) get their books or even get an update. It's confusing that Alien could publish a softcover version of the same book, so why can't they just publish the HC version and send it out to the backers? Why would they be blocked from doing that?

It's been explained that they won't publish the SC version before the HC is fulfilled. That's reassuring. But it doesn't seem like something this simple should cause this much trouble

I'm hoping everyone from Alien will continue to post here. It can be awkward sometimes because fans and people on the inside can have very different perspectives on the same thing. As fans we only see the end product.

But the reason there are paying jobs at Valiant is because there's a built-in fanbase. Having a built-in fanbase comes with expectations and scrutiny.

But they haven't published it. They've only solicited for release five months from now, time in which DMG can fulfill the Kickstarter. And, if they don't, they'll push the release of the softcover.

It should have been understood that the graphic novel was intended for mass consumption, not just for the people that pledged to the KS. That's how crowdfunding works.

[etos45]

C'mon now... they covered the concerns 100 times, just to be jumped on again for the same old stuff. It makes you sound entitled (entitled to the KS you paid for, sure. Alien didn't take your money though). I've been here a long time (sometimes as a lurker, sometimes active), and I have read so many threads just like this. Why? You can argue until you're blue in the face, what happens will happen with or without you. All I care about is if the books are good or not. VEI got where it just wasn't "good" anymore, so I switched from comics to discount tpbs after they didn't sell.

Martin and Danielle, thanks for being here. I assume you guys are Alien Comics people... as long as the content is good and the continuity is strong, I'll be happily buying the books.


/rant (sorry if I offended anyone)

[Ryan]

But they haven't published it. They've only solicited for release five months from now, time in which DMG can fulfill the Kickstarter. And, if they don't, they'll push the release of the softcover.

It should have been understood that the graphic novel was intended for mass consumption, not just for the people that pledged to the KS. That's how crowdfunding works.

I agree with you.

Just trying to explain why for some people had a negative reaction. We were led to believe that Alien had nothing with the kickstarter GN, then to see their name on it and that they're going to publish it while there hasn't been any updates on the KS, I can see why some had an issue with that. They obviously have SOME form of contact and interaction with DMG.

It was explained that they won't publish the SC before the KS is fulfilled, and I appreciate the direct communication we get on here.

For me, I'm a little surprised they want to publish the Eternal Warrior GN that they had nothing to do with. I was hoping for more of fresh start with Alien that would be quite a bit different than what's been coming out of DMG/VEI the last few years

[Ryan]

C'mon now... they covered the concerns 100 times, just to be jumped on again for the same old stuff. It makes you sound entitled (entitled to the KS you paid for, sure. Alien didn't take your money though). I've been here a long time (sometimes as a lurker, sometimes active), and I have read so many threads just like this. Why? You can argue until you're blue in the face, what happens will happen with or without you. All I care about is if the books are good or not. VEI got where it just wasn't "good" anymore, so I switched from comics to discount tpbs after they didn't sell.

Martin and Danielle, thanks for being here. I assume you guys are Alien Comics people... as long as the content is good and the continuity is strong, I'll be happily buying the books.


/rant (sorry if I offended anyone)

Good points. The fact that Alien is publishing a SC version of the kickstarter book is the new information that's being discussed. I agree with you that people shouldn't get jumped on though.

[ManofTheAtom]

But they haven't published it. They've only solicited for release five months from now, time in which DMG can fulfill the Kickstarter. And, if they don't, they'll push the release of the softcover.

It should have been understood that the graphic novel was intended for mass consumption, not just for the people that pledged to the KS. That's how crowdfunding works.

I agree with you.

Just trying to explain why for some people had a negative reaction. We were led to believe that Alien had nothing with the kickstarter GN, then to see their name on it and that they're going to publish it while there hasn't been any updates on the KS, I can see why some had an issue with that. They obviously have SOME form of contact and interaction with DMG.

It was explained that they won't publish the SC before the KS is fulfilled, and I appreciate the direct communication we get on here.

For me, I'm a little surprised they want to publish the Eternal Warrior GN that they had nothing to do with. I was hoping for more of fresh start with Alien that would be quite a bit different than what's been coming out of DMG/VEI the last few years

I think it's understood that the KS was for the hardcover while VALIANT was always intended to publish another version for the direct market. Now Alien is doing that.

I think it was bad timing. The solicits came out and they were not intended to be made public this way.

I think it's equally safe to assume that Alien is not just going to drop comics without some preamble to let audiences know what it is they intend to do.

[Ryan]

But they haven't published it. They've only solicited for release five months from now, time in which DMG can fulfill the Kickstarter. And, if they don't, they'll push the release of the softcover.

It should have been understood that the graphic novel was intended for mass consumption, not just for the people that pledged to the KS. That's how crowdfunding works.

I agree with you.

Just trying to explain why for some people had a negative reaction. We were led to believe that Alien had nothing with the kickstarter GN, then to see their name on it and that they're going to publish it while there hasn't been any updates on the KS, I can see why some had an issue with that. They obviously have SOME form of contact and interaction with DMG.

It was explained that they won't publish the SC before the KS is fulfilled, and I appreciate the direct communication we get on here.

For me, I'm a little surprised they want to publish the Eternal Warrior GN that they had nothing to do with. I was hoping for more of fresh start with Alien that would be quite a bit different than what's been coming out of DMG/VEI the last few years

I think it's understood that the KS was for the hardcover while VALIANT was always intended to publish another version for the direct market. Now Alien is doing that.

I think it was bad timing. The solicits came out and they were not intended to be made public this way.

I think it's equally safe to assume that Alien is not just going to drop comics without some preamble to let audiences know what it is they intend to do.

Yeah I didn't even know that book solicitation thing existed. I'd rather just discuss the comics. So maybe we can infer from this that all the DMG releases are in Alien continuity?

[ManofTheAtom]

But they haven't published it. They've only solicited for release five months from now, time in which DMG can fulfill the Kickstarter. And, if they don't, they'll push the release of the softcover.

It should have been understood that the graphic novel was intended for mass consumption, not just for the people that pledged to the KS. That's how crowdfunding works.

I agree with you.

Just trying to explain why for some people had a negative reaction. We were led to believe that Alien had nothing with the kickstarter GN, then to see their name on it and that they're going to publish it while there hasn't been any updates on the KS, I can see why some had an issue with that. They obviously have SOME form of contact and interaction with DMG.

It was explained that they won't publish the SC before the KS is fulfilled, and I appreciate the direct communication we get on here.

For me, I'm a little surprised they want to publish the Eternal Warrior GN that they had nothing to do with. I was hoping for more of fresh start with Alien that would be quite a bit different than what's been coming out of DMG/VEI the last few years

I think it's understood that the KS was for the hardcover while VALIANT was always intended to publish another version for the direct market. Now Alien is doing that.

I think it was bad timing. The solicits came out and they were not intended to be made public this way.

I think it's equally safe to assume that Alien is not just going to drop comics without some preamble to let audiences know what it is they intend to do.

Yeah I didn't even know that book solicitation thing existed. I'd rather just discuss the comics. So maybe we can infer from this that all the DMG releases are in Alien continuity?

Yeah. I don't think we've seen anything that would lead us to believe they're rebooting.

[Ryan]

But they haven't published it. They've only solicited for release five months from now, time in which DMG can fulfill the Kickstarter. And, if they don't, they'll push the release of the softcover.

It should have been understood that the graphic novel was intended for mass consumption, not just for the people that pledged to the KS. That's how crowdfunding works.

I agree with you.

Just trying to explain why for some people had a negative reaction. We were led to believe that Alien had nothing with the kickstarter GN, then to see their name on it and that they're going to publish it while there hasn't been any updates on the KS, I can see why some had an issue with that. They obviously have SOME form of contact and interaction with DMG.

It was explained that they won't publish the SC before the KS is fulfilled, and I appreciate the direct communication we get on here.

For me, I'm a little surprised they want to publish the Eternal Warrior GN that they had nothing to do with. I was hoping for more of fresh start with Alien that would be quite a bit different than what's been coming out of DMG/VEI the last few years

I think it's understood that the KS was for the hardcover while VALIANT was always intended to publish another version for the direct market. Now Alien is doing that.

I think it was bad timing. The solicits came out and they were not intended to be made public this way.

I think it's equally safe to assume that Alien is not just going to drop comics without some preamble to let audiences know what it is they intend to do.

Yeah I didn't even know that book solicitation thing existed. I'd rather just discuss the comics. So maybe we can infer from this that all the DMG releases are in Alien continuity?

Yeah. I don't think we've seen anything that would lead us to believe they're rebooting.

DMG continuity was pretty hodge-podge, so that actually makes me less excited.