Joe Illidge Open Letter To Industry
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Re: Joe Illidge Open Letter To Industry
This is true. As a white guy, I can see where we have a double standard when it comes to hiring,amongst other things. As Chiclo said, if the writer is qualified let’s just enjoy the story and not get our panties twisted.kinggirlfriend wrote:White guys can hire white guys and it's never deemed political. The second a black guy hires a black person it's called political and all the bigoted white people with thin skin come out of the woodwork. Grow up. Or better yet, grow some thicker skin snowflakes.
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This isn’t what’s happening at all. When Dinesh hired Doug Braithwaite, Khari Evans, Mico Suayan, Clayton Henry etc this was never brought up and rightly so. However, if you look at Illidges Twitter feed and his hiring of virtual unknowns then it doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to suspect there maybe other motivations in play.kinggirlfriend wrote:White guys can hire white guys and it's never deemed political. The second a black guy hires a black person it's called political and all the bigoted white people with thin skin come out of the woodwork. Grow up. Or better yet, grow some thicker skin snowflakes.
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Re: Joe Illidge Open Letter To Industry
I remember seeing Clayton Henry at a con and being a little surprised that he was black.Dallow Spicer1 wrote:This isn’t what’s happening at all. When Dinesh hired Doug Braithwaite, Khari Evans, Mico Suayan, Clayton Henry etc this was never brought up and rightly so. However, if you look at Illidges Twitter feed and his hiring of virtual unknowns then it doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to suspect there maybe other motivations in play.kinggirlfriend wrote:White guys can hire white guys and it's never deemed political. The second a black guy hires a black person it's called political and all the bigoted white people with thin skin come out of the woodwork. Grow up. Or better yet, grow some thicker skin snowflakes.
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Re: Joe Illidge Open Letter To Industry
Valiant used to be a non snowflake, non superemotive company in which Dinesh always said despite what the garbage comic media expected him to say:kinggirlfriend wrote:White guys can hire white guys and it's never deemed political. The second a black guy hires a black person it's called political and all the bigoted white people with thin skin come out of the woodwork. Grow up. Or better yet, grow some thicker skin snowflakes.
We just tell the best story, race and gender are unimportant.
TheFerg714 wrote:Oh I was just laughing because he didn't accomplish anything he set out to do...Dallow Spicer1 wrote:Yeah, I interpreted this to mean “I used my opportunity at Valiant to progress my agenda at using unknown creators for (possibly) political reasons instead of bringing in top creators to make the best books we can”.TheFerg714 wrote:At Valiant, we courageously opened the doors to emerging creators, in order to elevate characters to new heights.
Harbinger Wars II- Heiserrer was an emerging creator... No character was elevated. Livewire just came off like a crazy terrorist.
Brittania III- Robert Gill seems to have already "emerged," seeing as he's working at Marvel frequently now. Ryp actually is an emerging creator, and he was replaced. I'm not complaining, it was good, but still.
Faith: Dreamside- The one character that didn't need elevation (pun intended). This mini is obviously failing. I don't know what he expected to happen. However, MJ Kim is great.
Bloodshot PRS- Nadler and Thompson were a good pick, but I think they had already emerged through Marvel, and Ken Lashley was already a notable name. Oh and also they were all replaced.
Livewire- ...remains to be seen...
Incursion- Diggle and Braithwaite were already household names (to Valiant fans). I don't know what could be considered "emerging" about them.
So Kevin Grievoux, Alex Paknadel, and Vita Ayala... These three people are the only creators that fit his mantra...
Who is the guy who did one Ninjak issue and writes military fiction and books and articles about the current US army?
i want more of him please.
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Re: Joe Illidge Open Letter To Industry
kinggirlfriend wrote:White guys can hire white guys and it's never deemed political. The second a black guy hires a black person it's called political and all the bigoted white people with thin skin come out of the woodwork. Grow up. Or better yet, grow some thicker skin snowflakes.
This... Sad times around here. I wish more people wanted to talk about the book! You know, judge her writing, by her work. Pretty Simple!

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Reviews section?agent_graves wrote:kinggirlfriend wrote:White guys can hire white guys and it's never deemed political. The second a black guy hires a black person it's called political and all the bigoted white people with thin skin come out of the woodwork. Grow up. Or better yet, grow some thicker skin snowflakes.
This... Sad times around here. I wish more people wanted to talk about the book! You know, judge her writing, by her work. Pretty Simple!
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Oh, I’ve been there, that discussion hasn’t reached pg 2 yet!Dallow Spicer1 wrote:Reviews section?agent_graves wrote:kinggirlfriend wrote:White guys can hire white guys and it's never deemed political. The second a black guy hires a black person it's called political and all the bigoted white people with thin skin come out of the woodwork. Grow up. Or better yet, grow some thicker skin snowflakes.
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Re: Joe Illidge Open Letter To Industry
It’s rare any book reviews reach pg 2. It’s the most commented on book released in the past few months though, more than double the others.agent_graves wrote:Oh, I’ve been there, that discussion hasn’t reached pg 2 yet!Dallow Spicer1 wrote:Reviews section?agent_graves wrote:kinggirlfriend wrote:White guys can hire white guys and it's never deemed political. The second a black guy hires a black person it's called political and all the bigoted white people with thin skin come out of the woodwork. Grow up. Or better yet, grow some thicker skin snowflakes.
This... Sad times around here. I wish more people wanted to talk about the book! You know, judge her writing, by her work. Pretty Simple!