Harbinger Wars #2 Discussion

[BugsySig]

Good point about Bloodshot and Haradas appearance. If Bloodshot can't be mind-controlled, Haradas projection of a younger image wouldn't work on him...he should have been able to see him for who he is.

That and we know his public image is his true, older image because we saw him on TV in Harby #6.

[Paradigm38]

Bugs, I think it is more a "hard projection" that Harada uses like the kids, so it really would bypass the Bloodshot's psionic vision. Much like when Toyo was a dog for Pete in Harb#2

[BugsySig]

Bugs, I think it is more a "hard projection" that Harada uses like the kids, so it really would bypass the Bloodshot's psionic vision. Much like when Toyo was a dog for Pete in Harb#2

That's a good point. OK, I am cool with that. I suppose he has to appear as his normal age in public, otherwise there'd be major questions considering he's 70 something years old.

[tchalla8]

So I just read all 4 HW tie-in books back to back to back to back and its amazing how everything just clicks when you do it that way. This is gonna make for a great trade read when its done.

[Bone-A-Fach-ee]

Already replied , stating my utter elation with the book. But I am totally confused that someone even sensed the difference in the art! I'm a pretty big art snob, I must say. And I really even after going back and looking at it couldn't tell the difference between any Henry/ Perez pages. In fact, I'm only assuming Perez did the 2 pages of Gunslinger, but I can't find anything else. And if he did, then he did a great job blending his style with Henry's.
LOVED the art in this book!
Oh, and Dysart's writing was okay too
10/10

[jmatt]

On the writing, it is good but the narration is really jarring the pace. I am not a fan of the use of recollections as narration in this case.

I have to disagree. I think it allows the story to move forward more quickly if the recollections can impart some knowledge to the reader without there being panels and extra dialogue devoted to it.

And I liked the description of each of the kids powers and abilities as they brought them to bear. It's hard enough remembering who can do what with a cast this large.

[weshes195]

Hey, I haven't gotten my second issue yet (gonna get it tomorrow), but how would you currently rank it in comic "events"?

For me the only great event in the past years would be Blackest Night and House of M. Final Crisis was okay.

Honestly, the big companies produce so many mediocre events, this is a big fresh air!!!

[bygranddesign]

So, did Harada get rid of all of Bloodshot's nanites? That's it? Over? Done? Caput? No mas? Seeing him kill Saturn really starts to paint a picture of who he really is.

Thinking about this interesting twist with Harada transfusing the nanite infected blood into Saturn and then killing her along with the nanites. Absolutely BRUTAL. Loved it. Perhaps we should take this revelation as a possible indication that the nanites that infected the PRS Facility will stay in control of the facility until the mainframe is destroyed? Another hint of a possible connection to Grandmother?

Going back to Bloodshot #2 - part of what made Bloodshot rebel was the revelation that he has been lied to .. but i have a feeling he has been told this revelation before and they would simply blow out his brain and re-program him again. It was the nanites that finally turned the tide and convinced and HELPED him to fight back. Maybe part of it is him influencing the nanites ... but it might have been that moment that the nanites turned sentient (perhaps something Kuretich did turned them sentient).

[KXXX]

Her full name is Katherine Anne Alafair Margaret Jones

Bull$#!t

[Dallow Spicer1]

Loved the concept of the 'Harada Protocol', great fight scene between Bloodshot and Harada. Really enjoyed this issue, my only reservation is keeping up with the volume of new characters and their various psiot abilities A second read should help with that!

Very enjoyable, 4/5

[Big Red]

Don't *SQUEE* with Bloodshot.

That is all.

[Chiclo]

Don't *SQUEE* with Bloodshot.

That is all.

Or if you do, be sure to hit him in the head with some sort of beam. The Harbinger Wars video game shows us that that is how one kills a Bloodshot.

[BugsySig]

Don't *SQUEE* with Bloodshot.

That is all.

Or if you do, be sure to hit him in the head with some sort of beam. The Harbinger Wars video game shows us that that is how one kills a Bloodshot.

I-Beams are his Kryptonite.

[mp6pack]

On the writing, it is good but the narration is really jarring the pace. I am not a fan of the use of recollections as narration in this case.

I have to disagree. I think it allows the story to move forward more quickly if the recollections can impart some knowledge to the reader without there being panels and extra dialogue devoted to it.

And I liked the description of each of the kids powers and abilities as they brought them to bear. It's hard enough remembering who can do what with a cast this large.

I agree, I like the recollections as well, without it. I have no clue "who's at bat", and what the stats. Sometime in the future these kids will play a pivotal role in the Valiant Universe, and we'll know these kids like our favorite sports team.

Great issue though, I read it twice already and loved it. 5/5... that good

[Dallow Spicer1]

After a second read I up my score to 5/5!!!

Where did that paramilitary group come from that stormed the Bellagio just after the Psiot kids crashed into the building? That bit confused me? Not sure if they were PRS soldiers or something else?

Still a great read though!

[BugsySig]

After a second read I up my score to 5/5!!!

Where did that paramilitary group come from that stormed the Bellagio just after the Psiot kids crashed into the building? That bit confused me? Not sure if they were PRS soldiers or something else?

Still a great read though!

They were a psychic projection by one of the kids. It was a way for them to control the building.

[blujay]

Don't *SQUEE* with Bloodshot.

That is all.

Or if you do, be sure to hit him in the head with some sort of beam. The Harbinger Wars video game shows us that that is how one kills a Bloodshot.

[Dallow Spicer1]

After a second read I up my score to 5/5!!!

Where did that paramilitary group come from that stormed the Bellagio just after the Psiot kids crashed into the building? That bit confused me? Not sure if they were PRS soldiers or something else?

Still a great read though!

They were a psychic projection by one of the kids. It was a way for them to control the building.

Ahhh that makes perfect sense! Thanks for clearing that up Bugsy

[jmatt]

After a second read I up my score to 5/5!!!

Where did that paramilitary group come from that stormed the Bellagio just after the Psiot kids crashed into the building? That bit confused me? Not sure if they were PRS soldiers or something else?

Still a great read though!

They were a psychic projection by one of the kids. It was a way for them to control the building.

Ahhh that makes perfect sense! Thanks for clearing that up Bugsy

Yeah, they look at a tv ("this is what frightens them...") and see some kind of terrorist action and she whips up a similar projection.

[Savant]

The battle. Wow. Ick. Illuminating. The ending, and what Harada does - what a *SQUEE*. The series started off with him being a bit of a gray area - not easily definable. I'm ready for Pete to take the bastid out.

In earlier Harbinger issues, we learned that Harada disposes of non-successful psiot activations. It wasn't shown outright like what he did with Saturn.

Oh wow. Wow. WOW. Excellent read.

The battle. Wow. Ick. Illuminating. The ending, and what Harada does - what a *SQUEE*. The series started off with him being a bit of a gray area - not easily definable. I'm ready for Pete to take the bastid out.

I wonder if this might make Ion question his allegiances. In the course of the battle, he saw the usually well concealed sides of Harada. You'd think he would be a bit disillusioned after that.

Harada will probably just mind-wipe the occurrence.

[pixierosa]

The battle. Wow. Ick. Illuminating. The ending, and what Harada does - what a *SQUEE*. The series started off with him being a bit of a gray area - not easily definable. I'm ready for Pete to take the bastid out.

In earlier Harbinger issues, we learned that Harada disposes of non-successful psiot activations. It wasn't shown outright like what he did with Saturn.

Harada will probably just mind-wipe the occurrence.

I agree that we knew Harada's path, although supposedly motived by good purposes, was crooked when it came to moral responsibilities. It must be difficult to look upon regular humans and not feel superior, and thus, to eventually not value their lives, when one is god-like. I think what shocked me here was both the cruelty and ease with which he saved himself and used Saturn. She was one of "his children" once, too. I was surprised he chose to force his own blood into her wound rather than force the nanite infected blood out of his own body. Either way, he was going to lose a fair amount of blood. He chose to force that blood into her, told her to suffer quietly, and he would take revenge. But not for her. For himself. Megalomaniac.

[lorddunlow]

Harada will probably just mind-wipe the occurrence.

I think that's why all of his followers are so loyal. He always removes any really egregious actions like this from their minds. I'm sure Ion will be telling everyone how Bloodshot killed Saturn, with no recollection of Harada being involved.

[Pokat]

Hate to go against the grain, but was not a huge fan of this or the last issue.

I find the biggest issues I have are

1. The framing sequence where PRS is defending themselves to the government. I thought one of the intentions of the mini was to really project a *SQUEE* hitting the fan kind of vibe - but with this framing sequence I feel that it's all over - and the reader is playing "catch up."

2. The action is constant but I find I'm taken out of it as a reader by the blurbs of psiots names/abilities every other panel.

[Captain Craig]

Great read as expected.

FACE PEEL BLOODSHOT-----holeeeee moleee!!!

I also already like Palmer that line "Due to your groups success in the 90's...." LOL!! Nice line!!

Sort of related: Whose idea was it for me to only have one life in the 8-bit game then you're dead? Come on!!

[manga4life]

Nice issue! Harada vs Bloodshot was pretty epic and we get to see a lot of the kid's in action throughout the issue, but the ending really got me excited with seeing that jerk force HARD Corps into action (which we should see next issue), what a nice finish to the issue! I like how the story is king of being told in a recounting of events that have already happened, it's pretty cool and adds a nice element to the overall package.

I can't wait to see this HARD Corps team in the next issue and I'm going to be pumped to see what the Renegades have to add to all of this, what an event and what a story!

PS: Jerk move, Toyo......jerk move.