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From a marketing standpoint, I think Bloodshot would be a good first entry into cinema. People unfamiliar with Valiant might think that Bloodshot is somewhat like Punisher and they wouldn't be far off. But factor in the nanites and other characteristics and you have a fresh look at that sub-genre.

Iron Man has two movies and the recent Avengers. A man in a metal suit has been played out recently despite the differences between X-O and Iron Man. Moreover a third Iron Man movie is in the works. Might be a hard sell for the public.

We've had four X-Men movies made about a team of super heroes. Factor in too the recent Chronicles about a group of under-20's who have telekinetic powers. Again, somewhat played out at the moment.

A dark-themed Shadowman flick could work. Totally original and hasn't over-used in the theatres.

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david_albuq wrote:We've had four X-Men movies made about a team of super heroes. Factor in too the recent Chronicles about a group of under-20's who have telekinetic powers. Again, somewhat played out at the moment.
Don't forget the forgettable Push from a few years ago. I understand that was Harbinger-lite.

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Chiclo wrote:
david_albuq wrote:We've had four X-Men movies made about a team of super heroes. Factor in too the recent Chronicles about a group of under-20's who have telekinetic powers. Again, somewhat played out at the moment.
Don't forget the forgettable Push from a few years ago. I understand that was Harbinger-lite.
I liked Push...
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This was a really great article and fantastic coverage for Valiant in the mainstream press, you literally can't buy this kind of editorial. I'm so glad that Valiant seems to have a gameplan in place and is really dedicated to putting out some quality products, the fact that movies could soon be in the works is just amazing and things just seem to be falling nicely into place for the publisher. Hopefully they keep up the good work and keep pumping out quality comic books and move closer and closer to the coveted #3 position in the American comic book market, I have the feeling that within a few years time they could be right on the cusp if not already there.
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tchalla8 wrote:This was at the bottom of the online article.

"A version of this article appeared in print on July 9, 2012, on page B1 of the New York edition with the headline: In the Footsteps of Marvel."

So its today's New York Times
Ah, I missed that. I picked up my copy of the New York Times just a minute ago and MAN have papers gotten expensive. $2.50 for that scrawny paper is ridiculous! No wonder print is dying.

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Zaphod wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
david_albuq wrote:We've had four X-Men movies made about a team of super heroes. Factor in too the recent Chronicles about a group of under-20's who have telekinetic powers. Again, somewhat played out at the moment.
Don't forget the forgettable Push from a few years ago. I understand that was Harbinger-lite.
I liked Push...
Push was a very underrated movie. I loved it. It definitely had the potential for lots of really cool sequels. But then again, my friend once told me that he would never trust me for a movie recommendation after I told him I liked Bedazzled with Brendan Fraser.
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etos45 wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:This was at the bottom of the online article.

"A version of this article appeared in print on July 9, 2012, on page B1 of the New York edition with the headline: In the Footsteps of Marvel."

So its today's New York Times
Ah, I missed that. I picked up my copy of the New York Times just a minute ago and MAN have papers gotten expensive. $2.50 for that scrawny paper is ridiculous! No wonder print is dying.
Can anybody pick up an extra copy for a foreigner?

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lorddunlow wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
david_albuq wrote:We've had four X-Men movies made about a team of super heroes. Factor in too the recent Chronicles about a group of under-20's who have telekinetic powers. Again, somewhat played out at the moment.
Don't forget the forgettable Push from a few years ago. I understand that was Harbinger-lite.
I liked Push...
Push was a very underrated movie. I loved it. It definitely had the potential for lots of really cool sequels. But then again, my friend once told me that he would never trust me for a movie recommendation after I told him I liked Bedazzled with Brendan Fraser.
Wait. There was someone else in that movie besides Elizabeth Hurley in a schoolgirl outfit?
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magnusr wrote:
etos45 wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:This was at the bottom of the online article.

"A version of this article appeared in print on July 9, 2012, on page B1 of the New York edition with the headline: In the Footsteps of Marvel."

So its today's New York Times
Ah, I missed that. I picked up my copy of the New York Times just a minute ago and MAN have papers gotten expensive. $2.50 for that scrawny paper is ridiculous! No wonder print is dying.
Can anybody pick up an extra copy for a foreigner?

/Magnus
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Chiclo wrote:
david_albuq wrote:We've had four X-Men movies made about a team of super heroes. Factor in too the recent Chronicles about a group of under-20's who have telekinetic powers. Again, somewhat played out at the moment.
Don't forget the forgettable Push from a few years ago. I understand that was Harbinger-lite.
Ah yes, I forgot about Push. Never saw it, but you're right. Another reason to hold off on Harbinger - The Movie.

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tchalla8 wrote:
lorddunlow wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
Chiclo wrote:
david_albuq wrote:We've had four X-Men movies made about a team of super heroes. Factor in too the recent Chronicles about a group of under-20's who have telekinetic powers. Again, somewhat played out at the moment.
Don't forget the forgettable Push from a few years ago. I understand that was Harbinger-lite.
I liked Push...
Push was a very underrated movie. I loved it. It definitely had the potential for lots of really cool sequels. But then again, my friend once told me that he would never trust me for a movie recommendation after I told him I liked Bedazzled with Brendan Fraser.
Wait. There was someone else in that movie besides Elizabeth Hurley in a schoolgirl outfit?
I remember Raquel Welch in a bikini and Dudley Moore but I think Liz Hurley would have been a bit young for all that.

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R Daneel wrote:
greg wrote:You don't "ramp up" by doing the best first. Solid first, blockbuster later.
Yea that is what I am thinking/hoping. The XO effects can't be easy to pull off well.
My thinking as well. As I mentioned in another thread, remember the Spawn movie? MacFarlane was THE hottest thing going back then and still couldn't get a great movie.

This talk about 5 movies has me nervous. For pete's sake, they don't even have three titles out yet. I hope Cuneo isn't rushing for the brass ring.

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tchalla8 wrote:Wait. There was someone else in that movie besides Elizabeth Hurley in a schoolgirl outfit?
Yo. If you're going to do that, you're required to go the whole nine yards.

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iwantvaliantcomics wrote:I just grabbed a copy and had I seen this I would've picked one up for you Magnus. My wife says she'll try to grab another copy for you when she goes out tonight.
Big thanks to both of you.

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i say, let the good times roll!

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jmatt wrote:
R Daneel wrote:
greg wrote:You don't "ramp up" by doing the best first. Solid first, blockbuster later.
Yea that is what I am thinking/hoping. The XO effects can't be easy to pull off well.
My thinking as well. As I mentioned in another thread, remember the Spawn movie? MacFarlane was THE hottest thing going back then and still couldn't get a great movie.

This talk about 5 movies has me nervous. For pete's sake, they don't even have three titles out yet. I hope Cuneo isn't rushing for the brass ring.
No movies are actually the bread and butter of the industry today. Thay want to make movies and make them good because the royalties from the movies and merchandise would far outweigh the profits from the comics, plus it would draw in a surge of new readers.

VEI is definitely banking on making good movies. And it looks like they will pull it off as long as they have creative control over the stories and script. They have already shown they have the chops when it comes to finding talent and bringing it all together.

I see amazing things in the next few years coming.
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Aram wrote:
jmatt wrote:
R Daneel wrote:
greg wrote:You don't "ramp up" by doing the best first. Solid first, blockbuster later.
Yea that is what I am thinking/hoping. The XO effects can't be easy to pull off well.
My thinking as well. As I mentioned in another thread, remember the Spawn movie? MacFarlane was THE hottest thing going back then and still couldn't get a great movie.

This talk about 5 movies has me nervous. For pete's sake, they don't even have three titles out yet. I hope Cuneo isn't rushing for the brass ring.
No movies are actually the bread and butter of the industry today. Thay want to make movies and make them good because the royalties from the movies and merchandise would far outweigh the profits from the comics, plus it would draw in a surge of new readers.

VEI is definitely banking on making good movies. And it looks like they will pull it off as long as they have creative control over the stories and script. They have already shown they have the chops when it comes to finding talent and bringing it all together.

I see amazing things in the next few years coming.
I'm sorry, but as long Brett Ratner is involved with Harbinger quality is going to be a question.
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tchalla8 wrote:
I'm sorry, but as long Brett Ratner is involved with Harbinger quality is going to be a question.
It could be Much worse. What if it was Michael Bay? :wink:
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FYI: One update to the article:

"This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: July 9, 2012


An earlier version of this article, because of incorrect information supplied by Valiant, erroneously identified two Hollywood business figures, Sidney Ganis and Tom Sherak, as members of its board. "

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Aram wrote:VEI is definitely banking on making good movies. And it looks like they will pull it off as long as they have creative control over the stories and script. They have already shown they have the chops when it comes to finding talent and bringing it all together.

I see amazing things in the next few years coming.
Do they have creative control? and if so, how much is a question.
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tchalla8 wrote:I'm sorry, but as long Brett Ratner is involved with Harbinger quality is going to be a question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYGxEzEm0VA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't get the Ratner hate.

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Its not hate. He's just notoriously mediocre. He really doesn't have a stellar movie on his resume.
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tchalla8 wrote:Its not hate. He's just notoriously mediocre. He really doesn't have a stellar movie on his resume.
I really liked X-Men 3. :?

If he did a Harbinger like that, I'd probably like it too... in the theater alone. :lol:

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etos45 wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:Its not hate. He's just notoriously mediocre. He really doesn't have a stellar movie on his resume.
I really liked X-Men 3. :?

If he did a Harbinger like that, I'd probably like it too... in the theater alone. :lol:
I would like it too. In another theatre, though.


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