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Warning: There will probably be spoilers in the following.
Todd Luck wrote:Different strokes for different folks.

I enjoyed WWH and would recommend it. I thought it was fantastic to do a story where the Hulk finally gets revenge on everyone who has persecuted him: all the other heroes, Gen Ross...hell, the entire human race. It was great to see him take on most of the heroes in the Marvel Universe and turn the tables on them and show them what it's like to be persecuted monsters.

And the current Hulk series is far from perfect, but it's fun and intriguing enough that I've added it to my list. Red Hulk is a great new villain and it's cool to see a series built around a mystery (even though I think I know who Red Hulk is...well, maybe). I wish Hulk hadn't reverted back to his "savage" persona (just when "intelligent" Hulk was getting interesting) but it's still cool (and I suspect temporary).

I haven't tried Skaar, Son of Hulk but I'll probably pick that up in trade sometime.
WWH was lazy writing and awful art JRJR is very rarely the man when it comes to art and this was not one of his rare moments. There was no excuse for it after the masterpiece that is Planet Hulk. It would have been ok had they left out half the stuff with Sentry and not had the Hulk *SQUEE* heavy hitters left right and centre.

We have seen the Hulk fight these people before. He has never been this angry before is no excuse for a single slap taking out the Thing nor a 3 panel fight with Juggernaut in one of the all too many spin-offs.

Also with the revealing of who is and who isn't a Skrull and the problems the heroes are having fighting Super-Skrulls, there is no way they would have gone down so easily but that is a retrospective nail in the coffin of an already buried pile of toss.

The whole will he won't he of the Sentry stuff was appalling. They should have had him in from the start or left him out entirely.

He won't fight. He is fighting, yay he will save everyone. Oh no it is Reed with a hologram super-power amplifier deus ex machina thingy. Oh no the Hulk broke it because he is angrier than he has ever been and can kill anyone and destroy anything with his pinky toe. Sentry still won't fight. "Oh nos if I don't fight everyone will die but if I do fight it means leaving my house again and I swore never to do that again because the writers will lose my neuroses and psychological illnesses as a device to differentiate me from Superman" Hulk is going to win and enslave the whole human race. 3 seconds to Hulk pwnage....2....1....wait Sentry is here to save the day and because we said it wouldn't happen, you lot didn't see it coming, how clever are we?. confusing have they lost their powers or are they just hurt bit. The end.

Where do I get started with Red Hulk?

I'll start with Ed McGuinness. I do quite like some of his stuff but it shouldn't be in mainstream books, it just doesn't fit. He is a cartoonist and not a comic book artist.

It is obvious who Red Hulk is. He has been Hush all along. It is the same story with a different hat. There is no mystery, Loeb is making it up as he goes along from the notes he made while he was rehashing other peoples' stuff for his previous stories.

He cannot write and has never had a single idea of his own.

Hush was a rehash of Knightfall but not as good and the big bad at the end of it was nowhere near as cool or as effective as Bane.

Long Halloween was a rehash of [insert name of generic Mafia movie here]. It even had the wedding scene from Goodfellas in it.

Ultimates 3 was Secret Invasion with robots instead of aliens.

The Catwoman Rome Holiday Mystery or whatever it was called contradicted itself and was so bad DC didn't even hire a proof-reader so it was full of spelling mistakes. Not all Loeb's fault but he wrote the steaming heap so he is at least partially responsible.

Onslaught Reborn was based around some Leifeld splash pages.

Do I need to go on?

I can understand different strokes for different folks but why not try stroking something else. Then Jeph Loeb will stop tainting the industry with his dross.

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Drift wrote:Warning: There will probably be spoilers in the following.
Todd Luck wrote:Different strokes for different folks.

I enjoyed WWH and would recommend it. I thought it was fantastic to do a story where the Hulk finally gets revenge on everyone who has persecuted him: all the other heroes, Gen Ross...hell, the entire human race. It was great to see him take on most of the heroes in the Marvel Universe and turn the tables on them and show them what it's like to be persecuted monsters.

And the current Hulk series is far from perfect, but it's fun and intriguing enough that I've added it to my list. Red Hulk is a great new villain and it's cool to see a series built around a mystery (even though I think I know who Red Hulk is...well, maybe). I wish Hulk hadn't reverted back to his "savage" persona (just when "intelligent" Hulk was getting interesting) but it's still cool (and I suspect temporary).

I haven't tried Skaar, Son of Hulk but I'll probably pick that up in trade sometime.
WWH was lazy writing and awful art JRJR is very rarely the man when it comes to art and this was not one of his rare moments. There was no excuse for it after the masterpiece that is Planet Hulk. It would have been ok had they left out half the stuff with Sentry and not had the Hulk *SQUEE* heavy hitters left right and centre.

We have seen the Hulk fight these people before. He has never been this angry before is no excuse for a single slap taking out the Thing nor a 3 panel fight with Juggernaut in one of the all too many spin-offs.

Also with the revealing of who is and who isn't a Skrull and the problems the heroes are having fighting Super-Skrulls, there is no way they would have gone down so easily but that is a retrospective nail in the coffin of an already buried pile of toss.

The whole will he won't he of the Sentry stuff was appalling. They should have had him in from the start or left him out entirely.

He won't fight. He is fighting, yay he will save everyone. Oh no it is Reed with a hologram super-power amplifier deus ex machina thingy. Oh no the Hulk broke it because he is angrier than he has ever been and can kill anyone and destroy anything with his pinky toe. Sentry still won't fight. "Oh nos if I don't fight everyone will die but if I do fight it means leaving my house again and I swore never to do that again because the writers will lose my neuroses and psychological illnesses as a device to differentiate me from Superman" Hulk is going to win and enslave the whole human race. 3 seconds to Hulk pwnage....2....1....wait Sentry is here to save the day and because we said it wouldn't happen, you lot didn't see it coming, how clever are we?. confusing have they lost their powers or are they just hurt bit. The end.

Where do I get started with Red Hulk?

I'll start with Ed McGuinness. I do quite like some of his stuff but it shouldn't be in mainstream books, it just doesn't fit. He is a cartoonist and not a comic book artist.

It is obvious who Red Hulk is. He has been Hush all along. It is the same story with a different hat. There is no mystery, Loeb is making it up as he goes along from the notes he made while he was rehashing other peoples' stuff for his previous stories.

He cannot write and has never had a single idea of his own.

Hush was a rehash of Knightfall but not as good and the big bad at the end of it was nowhere near as cool or as effective as Bane.

Long Halloween was a rehash of [insert name of generic Mafia movie here]. It even had the wedding scene from Goodfellas in it.

Ultimates 3 was Secret Invasion with robots instead of aliens.

The Catwoman Rome Holiday Mystery or whatever it was called contradicted itself and was so bad DC didn't even hire a proof-reader so it was full of spelling mistakes. Not all Loeb's fault but he wrote the steaming heap so he is at least partially responsible.

Onslaught Reborn was based around some Leifeld splash pages.

Do I need to go on?

I can understand different strokes for different folks but why not try stroking something else. Then Jeph Loeb will stop tainting the industry with his dross.
So you dont like his stuff then?

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X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Todd Luck wrote:(even though I think I know who Red Hulk is...well, maybe).
Spill it. :hm:

Still only one real possibility but...





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...unless they're throwing a lot of red herrings out there, it's the "Doc Sampson" we've seen in the new series up til last issue (the one with short hair). I assume he's some sort of clone created by Gen. Ross and the real Doc Sampson (the one with long hair) who appeared together at the end of last issue.


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