sojourn #1

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:22 pm

i don't understand why they'd print that thing in the first place...the prequel and #1 were both rerprinted in at least 3 trades...what is the point? certainly not to meet the demand for all those who missed out on #1, because if that was the case they'd sure want to print many more than they supposedly did. seriously, though that CE is everywhere, and you can get it for less than $5-usually around 3.
that print run (which i did not get from slym btw) must be a typo-don't you guys agree?

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:45 pm

I have no reason to doubt slym's figure.

I mean, if there are 1200 copies out there and only 200 people care enough to look for them, how in-demand is that low print run book?

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:15 pm

Chiclo wrote:
TKWill wrote:Sojourn: CE was probably the third CG book that I ever got and I didn't even have an interest in CG it just showed up in a group of books. I now have two without trying, I can't possibly believe that it is that rare.
I saw a stack of about 30 at a flea market one time.

One out of that stack would be the one you mentioned.

I do remember hearing there was a second print with a greater print run than the first.

Thanks, Chiclo.

dave · Post by **dave** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:01 am

again i don't call it slym's number, smashey is the one who actual posted that in the other forum-CG checklists etc...in the dead universe section...i think he just repeated it...but if smashey himself came across 200 at once...it just gets me thinking. there was a time when no one was looking for certain vvss issues with print runs around that number, but you didn't see them-because no one was really lookiing AND because almost no one had one.

it just doesn't SEEM like this is the case here.

basically, i think i'm trying to talk myself out of hoarding this issue!

anyone looking for that post can find it here, very near the end under sojourn:
viewtopic.php?t=20287

Earl · Post by **Earl** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:22 pm

As far as I know the source data for this is the sales index that Diamond put out which is interpreted by sites like ICV2, CBG and John Jackson Miller into real numbers of sales. Errors on the Diamond lists are not unknown but it’s not uncommon for a reprint book like this to have a very low print run. That said the comic does appear to be more common than the Diamond data would suggest.

Earl.

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:46 pm

dave wrote:again i don't call it slym's number, smashey is the one who actual posted that in the other forum-CG checklists etc...in the dead universe section...i think he just repeated it...but if smashey himself came across 200 at once...it just gets me thinking. there was a time when no one was looking for certain vvss issues with print runs around that number, but you didn't see them-because no one was really lookiing AND because almost no one had one.

it just doesn't SEEM like this is the case here.

basically, i think i'm trying to talk myself out of hoarding this issue!

anyone looking for that post can find it here, very near the end under sojourn:
viewtopic.php?t=20287

Same thread I was looking for for Slym. Thanks, Dave.

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:21 pm

Earl wrote:As far as I know the source data for this is the sales index that Diamond put out which is interpreted by sites like ICV2, CBG and John Jackson Miller into real numbers of sales. Errors on the Diamond lists are not unknown but it’s not uncommon for a reprint book like this to have a very low print run. That said the comic does appear to be more common than the Diamond data would suggest.

Earl.

Thanks, Earl!!!

-slym (that was his "source" right there)

dave · Post by **dave** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:23 am

thanks slym.

dave · Post by **dave** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:27 am

the print run on that vector book, which repplaced the edge tpb-is only 2100 as well-that one i believe, because i've only ever seen one! (but i didn't pick it up.

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J-Scott-R · Post by **J-Scott-R** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:55 pm

dave wrote:why is it so hard to find this book? it's the only "common" issue that i never seem to find anywhere...i've got the trades and all that, but since i'm a nerd, i really want issue #1....you know!

If you are still looking for this there is one on Ebay right now at a nice starting price.

Scott

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0290919138

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:12 pm

Doosh seller...

-slym

J-Scott-R · Post by **J-Scott-R** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:36 pm

slym2none wrote:Doosh seller...

-slym

What is his problem, I've never bought from him but I have been looking at a few of his auctions. I don't want to get ripped off.

Scott

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:48 am

J-Scott-R wrote:
slym2none wrote:Doosh seller...

-slym
What is his problem, I've never bought from him but I have been looking at a few of his auctions. I don't want to get ripped off.

Scott

He has bad VF.com karma for selling board projects on eBay.

-slym (won't buy from CMartin on principal)

J-Scott-R · Post by **J-Scott-R** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:19 am

slym2none wrote:
J-Scott-R wrote:
slym2none wrote:Doosh seller...

-slym
What is his problem, I've never bought from him but I have been looking at a few of his auctions. I don't want to get ripped off.

Scott
He has bad VF.com karma for selling board projects on eBay.

-slym (won't buy from CMartin on principal)

Thanks for the info.

Scott

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:40 am

I saw one. Online. They wanted too much. I passed like I had eaten bad Mexican.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:45 am

slym2none wrote:
J-Scott-R wrote:
slym2none wrote:Doosh seller...

-slym
What is his problem, I've never bought from him but I have been looking at a few of his auctions. I don't want to get ripped off.

Scott
He has bad VF.com karma for selling board projects on eBay.

-slym (won't buy from CMartin on principal)

Apparently the threads where he offered these for sale have been deleted. The only thing I can find is the thread where he won a "second chance VcVSS offering" from Comickings and then mentioned he was going to throw them up on eBay right away:

http://www.valiantfans.com/forum/viewto ... ht=#159109

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:17 pm

slym2none wrote:
Christopher Martin wrote:I got them yesteryday. Thank you so much, and thanks for also including the lucky quarter! Peace.

PS I'll be sure to post a link as soon as I get them up on ebay!!
Wow, if only we had known...

So, what was the original price for the EW #5, anyways? That should be the maximum bid any of us would be willing to pay.

-slym (AND the "lucky quarter," too!)

This guy really is a doosh.

-slym

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:28 pm

slym2none wrote:
slym2none wrote:
Christopher Martin wrote:I got them yesteryday. Thank you so much, and thanks for also including the lucky quarter! Peace.

PS I'll be sure to post a link as soon as I get them up on ebay!!
Wow, if only we had known...

So, what was the original price for the EW #5, anyways? That should be the maximum bid any of us would be willing to pay.

-slym (AND the "lucky quarter," too!)
This guy really is a doosh.

-slym

His defense would be "well, comickings said the winner could do whatever he wanted with them..."

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:31 pm

These are not the only things he's sold on eBay of "ours." I don't know if any auction links are still good, but this isn't the only VF board project he's sold on eBay.

-slym

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:39 am

slym2none wrote:These are not the only things he's sold on eBay of "ours." I don't know if any auction links are still good, but this isn't the only VF board project he's sold on eBay.

-slym

The thing that sucks about this particular situation was Comickings had three drawings and this guy won TWO of them.

Why does a guy like this who is just looking to flip them for a profit get so lucky as to win two drawings?

J-Scott-R · Post by **J-Scott-R** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:45 pm

slym2none wrote:These are not the only things he's sold on eBay of "ours." I don't know if any auction links are still good, but this isn't the only VF board project he's sold on eBay.

-slym

Sorry I brought him up man, he seems like doosh

Scott

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:34 pm

Brother J wrote:
slym2none wrote:These are not the only things he's sold on eBay of "ours." I don't know if any auction links are still good, but this isn't the only VF board project he's sold on eBay.

-slym
The thing that sucks about this particular situation was Comickings had three drawings and this guy won TWO of them.

Why does a guy like this who is just looking to flip them for a profit get so lucky as to win two drawings?

Maybe it was not lucky?

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:54 pm

J-Scott-R wrote:
slym2none wrote:These are not the only things he's sold on eBay of "ours." I don't know if any auction links are still good, but this isn't the only VF board project he's sold on eBay.

-slym
Sorry I brought him up man, he seems like doosh

Scott

No worries - people need to know stuff like this.

-slym

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:49 am

Elveen wrote: Maybe it was not lucky?

I personally think it was on the up and up, Joey's not a bad guy, even though he has got into it with a few people here.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:06 pm

Brother J wrote:
Elveen wrote: Maybe it was not lucky?
I personally think it was on the up and up, Joey's not a bad guy, even though he has got into it with a few people here.

Obv. I have no idea. I have not really had much interaction with either dude.

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