Which Robin *right now* would best replace Batman?

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:44 pm

Lightning Strike wrote:
superman-prime wrote:And he has some supes does not have
IMO, J'onn is more powerful than Superman, unfortunately, they never write him that way even though it's painfully obvious that he is.

Wow. Seems kinda boring. Only fire can hurt him?

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:47 pm

He also can be hurt by empathic powers (from justice league episode 1 for reference for all the noobs) I think they dont use him alot because 2 supermen are way too many.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:49 pm

superman-prime wrote:He also can be hurt by empathic powers (from justice league episode 1 for reference for all the noobs) I think they dont use him alot because 2 supermen are way too many.

Like Prof. X (I know a different "world", but powers like that?)

Lightning Strike · Post by **Lightning Strike** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:15 pm

superman-prime wrote:He also can be hurt by empathic powers (from justice league episode 1 for reference for all the noobs) I think they dont use him alot because 2 supermen are way too many.

That's not in DC continuity though. The only time I've seen J'onn hurt by someone psionically is when their telepathy is more powerful than his.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:16 pm

It was a example that everyone can relate 2, it has happened in dc jla issues before by the big pink dude

Lightning Strike · Post by **Lightning Strike** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:24 pm

superman-prime wrote:It was a example that everyone can relate 2, it has happened in dc jla issues before by the big pink dude

Well yeah, that's Despero and he's one of the most powerful telepaths in the DCU. But having said that, J'onn was able to beat even him by creating an illusion in Despero's mind so eleborate that Despero thought it was real, essentially defeating Despero. It was something J'onn could only do once so if they faced each other again, J'onn would likely lose a psionic battle of the minds.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:45 pm

he got the beat down a few years ago by him was that the reference you have here ( i dont remember if thats what went down) around the time of Identity crisis

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:06 am

http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/01/23 ... for-death/

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:50 am

Cyberstrike wrote:http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/01/23 ... for-death/

Is this for real? DC's not really announcing the characters who will die in Final Crisis before the miniseries actually comes out are they?
That would be...unusual to say the least.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:29 pm

They have been on a killing spree in the last years

billypilgrim · Post by **billypilgrim** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:50 pm

I don't think it will happen. DC is really convoluting things so that Kingdom Come will be in continuity. Bruce Wayne is a huge part of that. They just did in Aquaman/Dweller in the Depths and rebooted the Manhunter along with killing a Flash.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:33 am

billypilgrim wrote:I don't think it will happen. DC is really convoluting things so that Kingdom Come will be in continuity. Bruce Wayne is a huge part of that. They just did in Aquaman/Dweller in the Depths and rebooted the Manhunter along with killing a Flash.

They made Kingdom Come one of the 52 alternate Earths (Earth 22 according to the list). Of course, this is after years of teasing that it was the future but still...

http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php ... ostcount=1

Drift · Post by **Drift** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:57 am

They have also made an Earth for the Charlton and Fawcett heroes but versions of them still exist in the main universe.

Just because there is an Earth where the events in Kingdom Come have already happened doesn't mean that they can't in another.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:21 pm

Drift wrote:They have also made an Earth for the Charlton and Fawcett heroes but versions of them still exist in the main universe.

Just because there is an Earth where the events in Kingdom Come have already happened doesn't mean that they can't in another.

But JLA 0 implied Dark Knight was the future. LOL

I'm actually glad that I don't get the DCU anymore other than Legion. As much as I enjoyed Kingdom Come, there's nothing worse than some of the follow up stuff to it, writers trying to intergrat it into the present books, etc. And I love how the solicitations say Thy Kingdom Come in JSA is the sequel to Kingdom Come. They already had a sequel a few years ago, it was called The Kingdom and it was REALLY bad.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:00 am

Dc stuff has been great from IC on but, its a lot to read because it is all tied together so its a bit expensive to keep up. most read dc or marvel but, not both

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:58 am

superman-prime wrote:Dc stuff has been great from IC on but, its a lot to read because it is all tied together so its a bit expensive to keep up. most read dc or marvel but, not both

Not sure if I've met too many people who only collect one or the other on a regular basis (unless they just don't collect many comics at all). Hell, DC completely lost me on the DCU with Countdown to IC, IC and One Year later but I still get All Star Batman (a non DCU book) and Legion (cause it's Shooter). Even in the 90's when I was mostly buying DC and couldn't get into Marvel, I'd still have one or two Marvel titles (GI Joe, Smith's Daredevil, early Thunderbolts). Both companies put out so many diverse comics that it's hard to not have at least one catch your eye.

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