Eternal Warrior 5 fan project

[Akuma]

I'm selling these books for the exact same reason CKB sold his. I got them with no strings attached and after awhile my books were beginning to look like a marionette puppets.

Main difference between CKB's tactics and mine are pretty obvious i guess. I just come out with it and announce a sale. Others more tactfully evade the insuing mob and harrassment by dealing in PM's.

The EW fan project is being offered at cost out of respect for a conversation I had with Greg about the project before he announced it. He trusted me with a secret so I feel it would be disrespectful to sell that particular book for a profit.

I'm selling these books at this particular time just to get the harrassment/arguments out of the way so I can get on with the other things I enjoy doing.

I realize some of these new guys might think I've been doing this for ages or something based on zeph's attack dog responses to my fan project for sale threads. But the reality is that I've only sold one other before now. Mag 0 now Solar and EW more than a year later. Really doesn't seem too terrible to me but for those who don't have them or weren't around when they became the craze I guess someone like me who's selling them off for profit is like evil incarnate.

So for the record the only reason I'm selling the EW fan project for cost is out of respect for Greg. Otherwise it would be $150.

[dbest4u]

I assume CKB is married...if someone were to offer him $10,000,000 for his wedding rings, would he sell them?

My guess is, probably, and he would use the excuse that it would be "irresponsible" to not sell them.

Are you kidding me for 10 mill Ill include my house and make a 9 mill profit. At the end of the day they are all things, and things can be replaced if not upgraded.


JS

[DawgPhan]

I assume CKB is married...if someone were to offer him $10,000,000 for his wedding rings, would he sell them?

My guess is, probably, and he would use the excuse that it would be "irresponsible" to not sell them.

Are you kidding me for 10 mill Ill include my house and make a 9 mill profit. At the end of the day they are all things, and things can be replaced if not upgraded.


JS

yeah after breifly discussing it with my wife I would say that the rings would probably be sold an then we would buy the rings that we wanted if we could afford them...

but $10 million is enough money to change the course of both of our families for the rest of time.

[DawgPhan]

wow just went back and read the EW 5 thread and there are some real pieces of work on there...nice a guy goes outta his way to do something cool and legit and you some of you are not only willing to screwed it up for everyone, but also take shots at the guy trying to do the right thing...amazing...

Hell I wouldnt even do that...I wanted to, but I didnt.

[cobra_commander]

OMFG 2 days off the board and what have I missed now again? MORE drama?? Just 2 days??

[ckb]

I assume CKB is married...if someone were to offer him $10,000,000 for his wedding rings, would he sell them?

My guess is, probably, and he would use the excuse that it would be "irresponsible" to not sell them.

Are you kidding me for 10 mill Ill include my house and make a 9 mill profit. At the end of the day they are all things, and things can be replaced if not upgraded.


JS

At some point sentiment becomes stupidity.

The CGC books I have sold were sold to pay for my registry set and additional submissions. For the books in my registry set, the buy price on them is just much higher than they would sell for right now (and maybe ever, as I value my set highly). But I will not hesitate to break up my set if the price is reached - I sincerely hope it never happens.

It happened once in the past, when I listed some books I never planned on selling on Comiclink, back when you could not find any Valiants on Comiclink. I listed them as a lark, with crazy prices, just to have them up there. I was stunned when they were purchased. The purchase paid for half a year at a Montessori school for my oldest son.

[Dr. Solar]

...if it starts to get to you just post some boobies or something.

NOW you're speaking my language.

[depluto]

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

I assume CKB is married...if someone were to offer him $10,000,000 for his wedding rings, would he sell them?

My guess is, probably, and he would use the excuse that it would be "irresponsible" to not sell them.

Are you kidding me for 10 mill Ill include my house and make a 9 mill profit. At the end of the day they are all things, and things can be replaced if not upgraded.


JS

And you would never have THOSE rings again, and it would bother you the rest of your lives.....

There are things that are more important than money.

[depluto]

Rings and comics are just things to me. I'd take a heck of a lot less than $1 million for my wedding ring ... and then spend the money on stuff for my wife.

Now my kids, on the other hand ... if somebody like Bill Gates came by and said "I will give you $1 billion dollars for your son or daughter," I would tell him he could shove my wedding ring up his *SQUEE*.

[Heath]

For those of you that are new, this kind of thing passes as entertainment for me - *SQUEE* off ZWH, whom I have on ignore.

I'm curious about something. And I say that because I'm legitimately curious and do not ask this with any sort of hostility at all, so my apologies if the following comes off as such. But, if *SQUEE* off ZWH is entertainment for you, why have him on ignore?

I can understand the entertainment value in *SQUEE* someone off. I'm guilty of enjoying that form of entertainment from time to time. But the entertainment comes from their reaction to my jabs and pokes.

For me, to jab and poke at someone (especially in the name of entertainment) just to ignore the response seems a bit... cowardly. If you jab at somebody, you should at least be able to take it like a man when they jab (or punch) back instead of hiding behind the shelter of ignoring them.

I can also understand putting someone on ignore if they really annoy you. But, why have him on ignore if *SQUEE* him off is a form of entertainment for you?

[DawgPhan]

I assume CKB is married...if someone were to offer him $10,000,000 for his wedding rings, would he sell them?

My guess is, probably, and he would use the excuse that it would be "irresponsible" to not sell them.

Are you kidding me for 10 mill Ill include my house and make a 9 mill profit. At the end of the day they are all things, and things can be replaced if not upgraded.


JS

And you would never have THOSE rings again, and it would bother you the rest of your lives.....

There are things that are more important than money.

It might bother me for the rest of my life, but that is the kind of money that changes the lvies of lots of people...I would find it a bit selfish of me to neglect that much change for something that might bother me. That money would mean that my wife and my children would never be without anything they needed...my children would have choices and second chances. I could deal with a little guilt for that.

[greg]

At this point I'm not sure what actions (if any) may be taken as a result
of the latest "rise in bad vibes" around here... but just to throw a comment
in on the current discussion... in the past 10 years, my wife has purchased
three different wedding rings for me... and she considers each a "step up"
in the appearance she wants to see on my finger.

As a result, I'd gladly sell any of the three wedding rings for $1Million,
and my wife suggested that we could even bargain down to $500K each, or all three for $1Million.

After the sale, she plans to purchase a "fourth" wedding ring for me,
and find something constructive to do with the leftover cash.

[ckb]

For those of you that are new, this kind of thing passes as entertainment for me - *SQUEE* off ZWH, whom I have on ignore.

I'm curious about something. And I say that because I'm legitimately curious and do not ask this with any sort of hostility at all, so my apologies if the following comes off as such. But, if *SQUEE* off ZWH is entertainment for you, why have him on ignore?

I can understand the entertainment value in *SQUEE* someone off. I'm guilty of enjoying that form of entertainment from time to time. But the entertainment comes from their reaction to my jabs and pokes.

For me, to jab and poke at someone (especially in the name of entertainment) just to ignore the response seems a bit... cowardly. If you jab at somebody, you should at least be able to take it like a man when they jab (or punch) back instead of hiding behind the shelter of ignoring them.

I can also understand putting someone on ignore if they really annoy you. But, why have him on ignore if *SQUEE* him off is a form of entertainment for you?

It's not something I wish to engage in, so I do it rarely. I came to the conclusion that it is not worth the time, and it's not really that entertaining. There are a couple topics where I cannot help myself, and marginalizing board members for selling books is one of them.

See the CGC vs. PGX thread. Why would I bother to engage with someone who is always right, never agrees to disagree, and attacks you personally rather than simply stating an opinion? Trust me, the board has been a better place for me during the multiple years now he has been on ignore.

Depluto is far more entertaining than all the rest of you clowns combined.

[Brother J]

At this point I'm not sure what actions (if any) may be taken as a result
of the latest "rise in bad vibes" around here... but just to throw a comment
in on the current discussion... in the past 10 years, my wife has purchased
three different wedding rings for me... and she considers each a "step up"
in the appearance she wants to see on my finger.

As a result, I'd gladly sell any of the three wedding rings for $1Million,
and my wife suggested that we could even bargain down to $500K each, or all three for $1Million.

After the sale, she plans to purchase a "fourth" wedding ring for me,
and find something constructive to do with the leftover cash.

amen, brother! A ring is just a possession, even though it is a symbol of a couple's love. As long as the love is still there and real, is the symbol really priceless? Now where is this guy who is buying up all the wedding rings for $1 million, I could use that dough to pay for our new house!

[greg]

In general, I think it's a personal question as to what these "fan projects" are worth, either monetarily or sentimentally.

Some people consider certain things "beyond money"...
others consider things "always for sale" if the price is right.

Most people are somewhere in between when it comes to parts of their hobbies.

It is fairly obvious from the variety of opinions on this subject,
that the Valiant fan projects are no exception.

Some will never sell, some will sell only for (big) profit, and some will sell at cost
or even give them away.

I don't believe any one of these options is "correct", since we're just talking about
a comic book with some signatures and a certificate that I made by hand.

What's it worth to you? What does it represent?

I think each project represents a "snapshot in time" of the Valiant community.
Some of them are for "happier times", some are from people no longer on the board,
some are owned by people who no longer participate in the board.

The idea that each and every one of them is somehow sacred is ludicrous.

They are what they are... and if the "spirit of community" is the driving force behind their meaning,
then I find a great lack of this spirit in most of the posts on the subject
that have occurred since.

Sad, but true.

[depluto]

Depluto is far more entertaining than all the rest of you clowns combined.

That must be why my neighbor is always peeking in my windows.

[siren3-4]

As a result, I'd gladly sell any of the three wedding rings for $1Million,
and my wife suggested that we could even bargain down to $500K each, or all three for $1Million.

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[X-O HoboJoe]

You guys just want wedding ring lite!

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

At this point I'm not sure what actions (if any) may be taken as a result
of the latest "rise in bad vibes" around here... but just to throw a comment
in on the current discussion... in the past 10 years, my wife has purchased
three different wedding rings for me... and she considers each a "step up"
in the appearance she wants to see on my finger.

As a result, I'd gladly sell any of the three wedding rings for $1Million,
and my wife suggested that we could even bargain down to $500K each, or all three for $1Million.

After the sale, she plans to purchase a "fourth" wedding ring for me,
and find something constructive to do with the leftover cash.

You'd never have the ring you were married with, on that day. That ring may not be "worth much", but it's certainly irreplaceable.

Let's put it in manlier terms.

If Joe Montana gave me his Super Bowl XVI football....gave it to ME, from him....

I'd never sell it.

And money does funny things to people...there are stories all over the news about lottery winners who lost it all, or wish they'd never won it in the first place.

[MedicAR]

At this point I'm not sure what actions (if any) may be taken as a result of the latest "rise in bad vibes" around here...

[dbest4u]

I assume CKB is married...if someone were to offer him $10,000,000 for his wedding rings, would he sell them?

My guess is, probably, and he would use the excuse that it would be "irresponsible" to not sell them.

Are you kidding me for 10 mill Ill include my house and make a 9 mill profit. At the end of the day they are all things, and things can be replaced if not upgraded.


JS

And you would never have THOSE rings again, and it would bother you the rest of your lives.....

There are things that are more important than money.

For 10mill Ill get a divorce and then a new wife(younger one) and I wont regret those old rings



JS

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

For those of you that are new, this kind of thing passes as entertainment for me - *SQUEE* off ZWH, whom I have on ignore.

I'm curious about something. And I say that because I'm legitimately curious and do not ask this with any sort of hostility at all, so my apologies if the following comes off as such. But, if *SQUEE* off ZWH is entertainment for you, why have him on ignore?

I can understand the entertainment value in *SQUEE* someone off. I'm guilty of enjoying that form of entertainment from time to time. But the entertainment comes from their reaction to my jabs and pokes.

For me, to jab and poke at someone (especially in the name of entertainment) just to ignore the response seems a bit... cowardly. If you jab at somebody, you should at least be able to take it like a man when they jab (or punch) back instead of hiding behind the shelter of ignoring them.

I can also understand putting someone on ignore if they really annoy you. But, why have him on ignore if *SQUEE* him off is a form of entertainment for you?

It's not something I wish to engage in, so I do it rarely. I came to the conclusion that it is not worth the time, and it's not really that entertaining. There are a couple topics where I cannot help myself, and marginalizing board members for selling books is one of them.

See the CGC vs. PGX thread. Why would I bother to engage with someone who is always right,

I am not "always right"...you will find numerous examples where I have been corrected by others on the board. These are ignored because they weren't "a big deal."

CKB won't admit that, though, because CKB is interested in defaming someone he don't like, and, I daresay, the reason CKB is interested in defaming me is because CKB can't argue with logic and reason.

never agrees to disagree,

Also not true.

CKB ignores the instances where this happens, and focuses solely on the very few times that there isn't an "agree to disagree"....

But I won't "agree to disagree" with bad behavior, like selling VcVSS for profit.

I wouldn't "agree to disagree" with NAMBLA, or the Westboro Baptist Church, or something equally as bad, which people advocate. Why would I "agree to disagree" on a clearly right vs. wrong issue?

and attacks you personally rather than simply stating an opinion?

Also not true. I have never....EVER....attacked anyone personally until and if they have done the same to me first.

Why? Because to do so otherwise would rob me of any credibility, and that's all anyone has on a message board.

The question I have is why is CKB so interested in painting a false picture of me. Who knows?

Trust me, the board has been a better place for me during the multiple years now he has been on ignore.

That's great...that's the point of ignore....but there's no reason to actually say that, other than to create bad will and take another jab. CKB is doing the very thing he complained about, creating bad will.

That's irony.

[ZephyrWasHOT!!]

The idea that each and every one of them is somehow sacred is ludicrous.

If you think so, hey, more power to ya.

They are what they are... and if the "spirit of community" is the driving force behind their meaning,
then I find a great lack of this spirit in most of the posts on the subject
that have occurred since.

Sad, but true.

Clearly I don't agree. Standing up for what's right, even in the face of persistent and angry disapproval, is in keeping with the spirit of these books.

So.



It appears I'm on the short end of the stick. Too bad for me, huh?

[greg]

Clearly I don't agree. Standing up for what's right, even in the face of persistent and angry disapproval, is in keeping with the spirit of these books.

Sounds like ManOfTheAtom... you know how that turned out.