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It is people reading the first trade and realizing they want the singles. Lots of people read the series in trade for the first time. It sold very heavily.

Seeing what is going on with Saga further emphasizes my disappointment that the x-o trade only sold 2k.
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400yrs wrote:It is people reading the first trade and realizing they want the singles. Lots of people read the series in trade for the first time. It sold very heavily.

Seeing what is going on with Saga further emphasizes my disappointment that the x-o trade only sold 2k.
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I can't find the Gamestop variant anywhere. Or a store employee with any brain cells to order any.
I have run the GameStop in my town for 8 years.
I have not heard a peep about this until I read about it online.
There's been mention of it on the Dark Horse forum
but I have yet to see anything internally to confirm.
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sonicdan wrote:
vikingspawn wrote:
I can't find the Gamestop variant anywhere. Or a store employee with any brain cells to order any.
I have run the GameStop in my town for 8 years.
I have not heard a peep about this until I read about it online.
There's been mention of it on the Dark Horse forum
but I have yet to see anything internally to confirm.
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vikingspawn wrote:Star Wars 1 seems to be selling at $10-12 these last few days. Wonder if it will have the "Saga" effect when it hits issue 4.

I can't find the Gamestop variant anywhere. Or a store employee with any brain cells to order any.
It's kind of settled. It was selling at anywhere from $20-30 about a week ago. I snagged one for $11.00 shipped the other day. Just because I am really interested in if the story is any good. Plus, the book taking off in value wouldn't hurt my feelings any :D

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Really hoping Manhattan Projects settles down. Current auction for #1 is at $82 with 2 minutes left. Too rich for my blood. Hopefully I can find one cheaper. On the bright side I only need #1 and #6 now. Anybody?
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The image book Nowhere Men us picking up heat. First issue going for over $20.

Did I miss something about this book?
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caxiotis wrote:The image book Nowhere Men us picking up heat. First issue going for over $20.

Did I miss something about this book?
Yes. Cover price.
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caxiotis wrote:The image book Nowhere Men us picking up heat. First issue going for over $20.

Did I miss something about this book?
:hm:
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Dr. Solar wrote:
caxiotis wrote:The image book Nowhere Men us picking up heat. First issue going for over $20.

Did I miss something about this book?
Yes. Cover price.
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Dr. Solar wrote:
caxiotis wrote:The image book Nowhere Men us picking up heat. First issue going for over $20.

Did I miss something about this book?
Yes. Cover price.
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StarBrand wrote:Savage Wolverine 1 is sold out.
It also sucked...

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daydreamscomics wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Savage Wolverine 1 is sold out.
It also sucked...

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I was surprised it sold out. Lol
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StarBrand wrote:
daydreamscomics wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Savage Wolverine 1 is sold out.
It also sucked...

:D
I was surprised it sold out. Lol
My LCS has about 25 copies still sitting on his shelf

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lorddunlow wrote:Really hoping Manhattan Projects settles down. Current auction for #1 is at $82 with 2 minutes left. Too rich for my blood. Hopefully I can find one cheaper. On the bright side I only need #1 and #6 now. Anybody?
Unless I misconstrued comicchron numbers, the print run on MP seems to be around VEI's books (a bit higher actually). So I can't bring myself to pay the inflated prices. I grabbed a PP#8 for cover, and told the guy at my LCS to add it to my sub after reading the comments from the creator on the CGC boards, I felt bad for the guy. I haven't read it yet, so I don't know how good it is, but the prices on it are absolutely *SQUEE*! Definitely spectators running the gamut on this thing....

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400yrs wrote:It is people reading the first trade and realizing they want the singles. Lots of people read the series in trade for the first time. It sold very heavily.

Seeing what is going on with Saga further emphasizes my disappointment that the x-o trade only sold 2k.
I recall you saying that Saga's books would be limited by the print run, and I still believe that. First print up to around $100 raw now. As much praise as this book has received, it's still got what, a 30k print or so for the first issue? I think out of all the real hot image titles, the only ones with low (under 10k) print runs in the beginning are PP and Revival. I might be wrong on that, but I think that's where those numbers lie...

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GGSAE wrote:
400yrs wrote:It is people reading the first trade and realizing they want the singles. Lots of people read the series in trade for the first time. It sold very heavily.

Seeing what is going on with Saga further emphasizes my disappointment that the x-o trade only sold 2k.
I recall you saying that Saga's books would be limited by the print run, and I still believe that. First print up to around $100 raw now. As much praise as this book has received, it's still got what, a 30k print or so for the first issue? I think out of all the real hot image titles, the only ones with low (under 10k) print runs in the beginning are PP and Revival. I might be wrong on that, but I think that's where those numbers lie...

PP is under 10K for sure but I was under the impression that Revival is around 17K

Still much lower than Saga

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Sometimes these hot books aren't driven up in price by speculators, but rather by folks just plain desperate to own the book. When the death of Captain America (issue 25) was going for up to 75.00 or even more on eBay, I don't think that was speculators driving it, but rather people who lacked wisdom on the matter seeing them going up in price and wanting to own the book, not realizing it would be dropping in value soon. I sold tons of that book on eBay, and followed the market closely on it. That's my read on what happens on these hot books sometimes, such as it is. It's not always speculators who think they are going to turn a profit on the book driving the prices.
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StarBrand wrote:Sometimes these hot books aren't driven up in price by speculators, but rather by folks just plain desperate to own the book. When the death of Captain America (issue 25) was going for up to 75.00 or even more on eBay, I don't think that was speculators driving it, but rather people who lacked wisdom on the matter seeing them going up in price and wanting to own the book, not realizing it would be dropping in value soon. I sold tons of that book on eBay, and followed the market closely on it. That's my read on what happens on these hot books sometimes, such as it is. It's not always speculators who think they are going to turn a profit on the book driving the prices.
Well, what category would you put people in that: buy the books, don't read them, may or may not sell them down the road, or just bought them because they were hot? I think there's a lot of people that fit into a category as am impulse buyer, without a necessary objective of cashing out on that purchase.

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betterthanezra wrote:
GGSAE wrote:
400yrs wrote:It is people reading the first trade and realizing they want the singles. Lots of people read the series in trade for the first time. It sold very heavily.

Seeing what is going on with Saga further emphasizes my disappointment that the x-o trade only sold 2k.
I recall you saying that Saga's books would be limited by the print run, and I still believe that. First print up to around $100 raw now. As much praise as this book has received, it's still got what, a 30k print or so for the first issue? I think out of all the real hot image titles, the only ones with low (under 10k) print runs in the beginning are PP and Revival. I might be wrong on that, but I think that's where those numbers lie...

PP is under 10K for sure but I was under the impression that Revival is around 17K

Still much lower than Saga

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You might be right, on Revival. Sometimes dicking around on comichron I picked up reprints numbers instead, the site is a bit of a pain sometimes. I know for a fact PP is right around 5k for each issue, and there's some where it dipped below a bit, around 4500 or so copies. Even at 5k for a book like PP, there's a lot of people that have never heard of it, so I don't believe the increase is driven by fans. It's been too sudden. Let's compare it to Shadowman Vol.3, which has a similar print run. None of those books are anywhere near the prices of PP with a similar print run, and I would say probably equal number of fans. Just the spectators haven't gone *SQUEE* on any of those books. :P

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GGSAE wrote:
StarBrand wrote:Sometimes these hot books aren't driven up in price by speculators, but rather by folks just plain desperate to own the book. When the death of Captain America (issue 25) was going for up to 75.00 or even more on eBay, I don't think that was speculators driving it, but rather people who lacked wisdom on the matter seeing them going up in price and wanting to own the book, not realizing it would be dropping in value soon. I sold tons of that book on eBay, and followed the market closely on it. That's my read on what happens on these hot books sometimes, such as it is. It's not always speculators who think they are going to turn a profit on the book driving the prices.
Well, what category would you put people in that: buy the books, don't read them, may or may not sell them down the road, or just bought them because they were hot? I think there's a lot of people that fit into a category as am impulse buyer, without a necessary objective of cashing out on that purchase.
Those buyers are hard to quantify. I think impulse buyers is a good term for them.
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GGSAE wrote:
400yrs wrote:It is people reading the first trade and realizing they want the singles. Lots of people read the series in trade for the first time. It sold very heavily.

Seeing what is going on with Saga further emphasizes my disappointment that the x-o trade only sold 2k.
I recall you saying that Saga's books would be limited by the print run, and I still believe that. First print up to around $100 raw now. As much praise as this book has received, it's still got what, a 30k print or so for the first issue? I think out of all the real hot image titles, the only ones with low (under 10k) print runs in the beginning are PP and Revival. I might be wrong on that, but I think that's where those numbers lie...
Saga is about 35K. Revival is more like 17K-18K like BTE said.

I still think Saga should be limited by it's print run as well. The book steadily rose to about $35 and then took off after the trade came out. IMO, the $100 price it's at right now will drop back to around $50 and it will slowly rise again.

This book has surprised the hell out of me sales-wise, but it's really, really excellent and has maintained that and BKV probably will be able to maintain that so nothing can really surprise me going forward. This book is really something special. Even moreso than I thought when I first heard about it. That's why I ordered a bunch when it first came out.
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GGSAE wrote: Even at 5k for a book like PP, there's a lot of people that have never heard of it, so I don't believe the increase is driven by fans. It's been too sudden. Let's compare it to Shadowman Vol.3, which has a similar print run. None of those books are anywhere near the prices of PP with a similar print run, and I would say probably equal number of fans. Just the spectators haven't gone *SQUEE* on any of those books. :P
The misconception with a BBC TV show helped spike the interest in the book. To get a better understanding of whether it is speculators or real fans, I think we'd need to figure out how the trade did. That trade was really good and made me wish I hadn't sold my copies that I had. I'm a cheap *SQUEE* when it comes to this new stuff, but I'd easily pay $25 for a #1 if I could.
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400yrs wrote:
GGSAE wrote: Even at 5k for a book like PP, there's a lot of people that have never heard of it, so I don't believe the increase is driven by fans. It's been too sudden. Let's compare it to Shadowman Vol.3, which has a similar print run. None of those books are anywhere near the prices of PP with a similar print run, and I would say probably equal number of fans. Just the spectators haven't gone *SQUEE* on any of those books. :P
The misconception with a BBC TV show helped spike the interest in the book. To get a better understanding of whether it is speculators or real fans, I think we'd need to figure out how the trade did. That trade was really good and made me wish I hadn't sold my copies that I had. I'm a cheap *SQUEE* when it comes to this new stuff, but I'd easily pay $25 for a #1 if I could.
Seems to be getting alot of buzz and my comic shops are starting to notice. I found some back issues for cover last week and last night I see they marked them up to $30 each even for the early reprints too.

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400yrs wrote:
GGSAE wrote:
400yrs wrote:It is people reading the first trade and realizing they want the singles. Lots of people read the series in trade for the first time. It sold very heavily.

Seeing what is going on with Saga further emphasizes my disappointment that the x-o trade only sold 2k.
I recall you saying that Saga's books would be limited by the print run, and I still believe that. First print up to around $100 raw now. As much praise as this book has received, it's still got what, a 30k print or so for the first issue? I think out of all the real hot image titles, the only ones with low (under 10k) print runs in the beginning are PP and Revival. I might be wrong on that, but I think that's where those numbers lie...
Saga is about 35K. Revival is more like 17K-18K like BTE said.

I still think Saga should be limited by it's print run as well. The book steadily rose to about $35 and then took off after the trade came out. IMO, the $100 price it's at right now will drop back to around $50 and it will slowly rise again.

This book has surprised the hell out of me sales-wise, but it's really, really excellent and has maintained that and BKV probably will be able to maintain that so nothing can really surprise me going forward. This book is really something special. Even moreso than I thought when I first heard about it. That's why I ordered a bunch when it first came out.
Duly noted. I think I should go grab the other first prints that are lying around at the different LCS I visit...they seem to be selling really well on ebay...


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