Archer & Armstrong: First Impressions

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:29 am

JustCallMeAric wrote:I'm disappointed that Dino hasn't left us a post the last couple of weeks

I guess we don't matter to him anymore.

JustCallMeAric · Post by **JustCallMeAric** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:06 am

jedimarley wrote:
JustCallMeAric wrote:I'm disappointed that Dino hasn't left us a post the last couple of weeks
I guess we don't matter to him anymore.

I don't think thats true. But he needs to take a sec to drop a line and explain this one.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:45 pm

etos45 wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
so what does this say about VEI's choice of distributor?

And so we can clarify, did anyone order from Amazon? Because if they did and they haven't recieved the book yet, I am guessing Diamond isn't to blame, right? Using the established logic flow from previous.
First of all, really good point. I didn't even think about the fact that Diamond doesn't effect Amazon's distribution... or at least it didn't for Harbinger, so I assume it doesn't now. So if that's true, then I guess Diamond probably isn't the one to blame.

As for "choice of distributor"... is there really one? I don't claim to be an expert on the subject, but I've read before that it's pretty much essential to go through Diamond if you want to distribute in the comic world.

*cough cough*

so NOBODY here ordered off of Amazon? Etos, bud, you and I are going to have to start our own group or something. Everybody in here is just *SQUEE* and nobodies sleuthing, dern it.

The Batman is not amused.

TKWill · Post by **TKWill** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:54 pm

Zaphod wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
so what does this say about VEI's choice of distributor?

And so we can clarify, did anyone order from Amazon? Because if they did and they haven't recieved the book yet, I am guessing Diamond isn't to blame, right? Using the established logic flow from previous.
First of all, really good point. I didn't even think about the fact that Diamond doesn't effect Amazon's distribution... or at least it didn't for Harbinger, so I assume it doesn't now. So if that's true, then I guess Diamond probably isn't the one to blame.

As for "choice of distributor"... is there really one? I don't claim to be an expert on the subject, but I've read before that it's pretty much essential to go through Diamond if you want to distribute in the comic world.
*cough cough*

so NOBODY here ordered off of Amazon? Etos, bud, you and I are going to have to start our own group or something. Everybody in here is just *SQUEE* and nobodies sleuthing, dern it.

The Batman is not amused.

I earned my sleuthing merit badge on Saturday so you guys are gonna have to take it from here. I didn't order online because I planned to buy from a retailer.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:08 pm

TKWill wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
so what does this say about VEI's choice of distributor?

And so we can clarify, did anyone order from Amazon? Because if they did and they haven't recieved the book yet, I am guessing Diamond isn't to blame, right? Using the established logic flow from previous.
First of all, really good point. I didn't even think about the fact that Diamond doesn't effect Amazon's distribution... or at least it didn't for Harbinger, so I assume it doesn't now. So if that's true, then I guess Diamond probably isn't the one to blame.

As for "choice of distributor"... is there really one? I don't claim to be an expert on the subject, but I've read before that it's pretty much essential to go through Diamond if you want to distribute in the comic world.
*cough cough*

so NOBODY here ordered off of Amazon? Etos, bud, you and I are going to have to start our own group or something. Everybody in here is just *SQUEE* and nobodies sleuthing, dern it.

The Batman is not amused.
I earned my sleuthing merit badge on Saturday so you guys are gonna have to take it from here. I didn't order online because I planned to buy from a retailer.

You ARE the Batman!

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:03 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
TKWill wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
so what does this say about VEI's choice of distributor?

And so we can clarify, did anyone order from Amazon? Because if they did and they haven't recieved the book yet, I am guessing Diamond isn't to blame, right? Using the established logic flow from previous.
First of all, really good point. I didn't even think about the fact that Diamond doesn't effect Amazon's distribution... or at least it didn't for Harbinger, so I assume it doesn't now. So if that's true, then I guess Diamond probably isn't the one to blame.

As for "choice of distributor"... is there really one? I don't claim to be an expert on the subject, but I've read before that it's pretty much essential to go through Diamond if you want to distribute in the comic world.
*cough cough*

so NOBODY here ordered off of Amazon? Etos, bud, you and I are going to have to start our own group or something. Everybody in here is just *SQUEE* and nobodies sleuthing, dern it.

The Batman is not amused.
I earned my sleuthing merit badge on Saturday so you guys are gonna have to take it from here. I didn't order online because I planned to buy from a retailer.
You ARE the Batman!

I think that DJ keeps deleting my Signature though.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:50 pm

Zaphod wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
TKWill wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
so what does this say about VEI's choice of distributor?

And so we can clarify, did anyone order from Amazon? Because if they did and they haven't recieved the book yet, I am guessing Diamond isn't to blame, right? Using the established logic flow from previous.
First of all, really good point. I didn't even think about the fact that Diamond doesn't effect Amazon's distribution... or at least it didn't for Harbinger, so I assume it doesn't now. So if that's true, then I guess Diamond probably isn't the one to blame.

As for "choice of distributor"... is there really one? I don't claim to be an expert on the subject, but I've read before that it's pretty much essential to go through Diamond if you want to distribute in the comic world.
*cough cough*

so NOBODY here ordered off of Amazon? Etos, bud, you and I are going to have to start our own group or something. Everybody in here is just *SQUEE* and nobodies sleuthing, dern it.

The Batman is not amused.
I earned my sleuthing merit badge on Saturday so you guys are gonna have to take it from here. I didn't order online because I planned to buy from a retailer.
You ARE the Batman!

I think that DJ keeps deleting my Signature though.

Nope.

If it's disappearing, it's probably the sig bug that the board has been experiencing for quite awhile now.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:01 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
TKWill wrote:
Zaphod wrote:
etos45 wrote: First of all, really good point. I didn't even think about the fact that Diamond doesn't effect Amazon's distribution... or at least it didn't for Harbinger, so I assume it doesn't now. So if that's true, then I guess Diamond probably isn't the one to blame.

As for "choice of distributor"... is there really one? I don't claim to be an expert on the subject, but I've read before that it's pretty much essential to go through Diamond if you want to distribute in the comic world.
*cough cough*

so NOBODY here ordered off of Amazon? Etos, bud, you and I are going to have to start our own group or something. Everybody in here is just *SQUEE* and nobodies sleuthing, dern it.

The Batman is not amused.
I earned my sleuthing merit badge on Saturday so you guys are gonna have to take it from here. I didn't order online because I planned to buy from a retailer.
You ARE the Batman!

I think that DJ keeps deleting my Signature though.

Nope.

If it's disappearing, it's probably the sig bug that the board has been experiencing for quite awhile now.

yeah, well you have your story and I got mine.

daydreamscomics · Post by **daydreamscomics** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:27 pm

the A&A hc should be coming out october 29th...

i'm not saying this with 100% certainty, but it's what i've gathered looking on diamonds retailer site...

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:08 pm

Thanks for the heads up, Zach.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:28 pm

daydreamscomics wrote:the A&A hc should be coming out october 29th...

i'm not saying this with 100% certainty, but it's what i've gathered looking on diamonds retailer site...

geez, two MORE weeks...

Thanks for the information.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:31 pm

Brother J wrote:
daydreamscomics wrote:the A&A hc should be coming out october 29th...

i'm not saying this with 100% certainty, but it's what i've gathered looking on diamonds retailer site...

geez, two MORE weeks...

Thanks for the information.

God forbid dino should tell us something......

not like he isn't here...

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:50 pm

Brother J wrote:
daydreamscomics wrote:the A&A hc should be coming out october 29th...

i'm not saying this with 100% certainty, but it's what i've gathered looking on diamonds retailer site...

geez, two MORE weeks...

Thanks for the information.

How depressing... I guess I'm glad that it's coming out, but it sure would be nice to know why it took so long getting here.

cinlach@aol.com · Post by **cinlach@aol.com** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:35 pm

I'm not really jones-ing that hard for it...sure it's got a new story, but the bulk of the material is already something I own.

So besides the new 5 minute read, and some new pretty colors, I don't see the rush to get one.

I mean, I'm definitely gonna buy one and sooner instead of later, but today or the 29 makes no difference to me.

Squirrel · Post by **Squirrel** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:33 pm

this was supposed to come out on my birthday, no such luck...same as my years been going, sh!tty!!!

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:55 am

cinlach@aol.com wrote:I'm not really jones-ing that hard for it...sure it's got a new story, but the bulk of the material is already something I own.

So besides the new 5 minute read, and some new pretty colors, I don't see the rush to get one.

I mean, I'm definitely gonna buy one and sooner instead of later, but today or the 29 makes no difference to me.

The main problem I'm starting to have with this is that it's making VEI look unstable and unreliable. It's not a good image to have and could wind up hurting them when the relaunch finally hits and I don't want to see this company fail again. Something just doesn't seem right with the whole delay now. Just because they were a little late getting it to Diamond because of a printing error it gets delayed by over a month? And why no release to Amazon or anyone else ordering directly from VEI? Honestly, the lateness didn't bother me as much when I thought it was just Diamond's fault.

As for why I'm personally "jonesing" for the new HC, that is just because it's one of the few things that I get REALLY excited about in comics. I mean, I like getting my Spider-man and Star Wars and whatever, but I really look forward to any opportunity I get to own a new Valiant. It's one of the only things that I rush home and read right then and there. For the past several weeks I get disappointed every time I go to my LCS and on top of that there isn't even any word anymore from the company as to when the holdup will be resolved.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:36 am

it's been so many years coming that a few weeks late is no biggie. Besides it got held back because VIE has been having a problem at the print and wanted it corrected & done right this time. Hopefully it will reflect in the final product. The new shooter material makes it worth it for me.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:17 am

dino wrote:Guys, here is the update. The book is done. The manufacturer printed a few pages incorrectly (the registration on these pages was off causing the pages to print slightly blurred). We had the manufacturer correct this, so there was a slight delay from their end. The book is now corrected, in hand, and looking great. There was a good chance it would make it out to stores today but the manufacturer narrowly missed this week's shipment deadline. They will be in stores shortly. Can't wait for you guys to see the new story and Jim's interview!

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:54 am

MoonChild wrote:it's been so many years coming that a few weeks late is no biggie. Besides it got held back because VIE has been having a problem at the print and wanted it corrected & done right this time. Hopefully it will reflect in the final product. The new shooter material makes it worth it for me.

I totally agree with you that it would be no biggie, but it just wreaks now of something else being up with it. Like seen in Jedi's quote, if it just barely missed the deadline to ship then why is it taking well over a month to make it to stores? I just don't want this sort of thing to become the norm for Valiant because it could ruin the company's reputation. I hate that I've moved to this position, but I just don't want to see this as a sign of things to come. Especially with no further word on the progress and cause of more delays.

daydreamscomics · Post by **daydreamscomics** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:39 pm

UPDATE:

it's not on the october 29th invoice...so i really have no clue at this point

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:48 pm

daydreamscomics wrote:UPDATE:

it's not on the october 29th invoice...so i really have no clue at this point

Well, that sucks.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:51 pm

Hopefully Dino can let us know what's going on.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:59 pm

by this point they need Shooter. He knew that punctuality was important for a startup. DC, Marvel, and a few of the others can afford delays (and sadly most of the time they know it) but I don't know if a Valiant reboot could survive it.

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:14 pm

let's just hope for the best guys. Obviously there is something going on otherwise Dino would have posted on here by now. I think Dino and crew have been great for VALIANT and I applaud all the effort they've put forth to bringing our characters back in the way that we all love them.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:22 pm

Ryan wrote:let's just hope for the best guys. Obviously there is something going on otherwise Dino would have posted on here by now. I think Dino and crew have been great for VALIANT and I applaud all the effort they've put forth to bringing our characters back in the way that we all love them.

It can be either really good news or really bad news but I'm quite certain that its a good sign, With Shooter Available and whispers of Valiant attempting to relaunch sooner than expected they could really be knee deep in business affairs as well as creative direction and physical work underway.