Harbinger #1 CGC 9.8s on eBay (past and current auctions)

[Intrepidxc]

I wish I'd gotten a copy of Harbinger 1 CGC 9.8 before the announcement. Now I'll have to live with my 9.4 copy since I'm not paying these inflated $1k plus prices!

[FormerReader]

I wish I'd gotten a copy of Harbinger 1 CGC 9.8 before the announcement. Now I'll have to live with my 9.4 copy since I'm not paying these inflated $1k plus prices!

I think you still have time. I can't see a 9.8 fetching close to $1k.

[Intrepidxc]

I wish I'd gotten a copy of Harbinger 1 CGC 9.8 before the announcement. Now I'll have to live with my 9.4 copy since I'm not paying these inflated $1k plus prices!

I think you still have time. I can't see a 9.8 fetching close to $1k.

All the ones on ebay are $1K or higher. I'm searching other places like a crazy man!

[Ricomortis]

I wish I'd gotten a copy of Harbinger 1 CGC 9.8 before the announcement. Now I'll have to live with my 9.4 copy since I'm not paying these inflated $1k plus prices!

Actually... For a long time... That is about what one cost. Then it moved down to the 600 range and finally settled into the 324-400 range. However, as soon as a bump in interest is announced 3+ graded copies disappear in minutes. Why? Well...IMO.. Because we all know deep down that that was WAY to cheap for 9.8 copies.

I was planning on purchasing 5 more of those. I procrastinated because they were somewhat available. (I having a sneaking suspicion that many here did the same thing)

Rico

[Intrepidxc]

I wish I'd gotten a copy of Harbinger 1 CGC 9.8 before the announcement. Now I'll have to live with my 9.4 copy since I'm not paying these inflated $1k plus prices!

Actually... For a long time... That is about what one cost. Then it moved down to the 600 range and finally settled into the 324-400 range. However, as soon as a bump in interest is announced 3+ graded copies disappear in minutes. Why? Well...IMO.. Because we all know deep down that that was WAY to cheap for 9.8 copies.

I was planning on purchasing 5 more of those. I procrastinated because they were somewhat available. (I having a sneaking suspicion that many here did the same thing)

Rico

yep, it's why I waited. I figured they would even get cheaper! I only paid $60 for a 9.4 copy so hopefully I at least got that copy for a deal.

[GGSAE]

I wish I'd gotten a copy of Harbinger 1 CGC 9.8 before the announcement. Now I'll have to live with my 9.4 copy since I'm not paying these inflated $1k plus prices!

Actually... For a long time... That is about what one cost. Then it moved down to the 600 range and finally settled into the 324-400 range. However, as soon as a bump in interest is announced 3+ graded copies disappear in minutes. Why? Well...IMO.. Because we all know deep down that that was WAY to cheap for 9.8 copies.

I was planning on purchasing 5 more of those. I procrastinated because they were somewhat available. (I having a sneaking suspicion that many here did the same thing)

Rico

Ya I came close to pulling the trigger very hard on a couple books in the mid 300s, I had a gut feeling the bottom was in...but I've gotten almost entirely out of slabs (or are currently selling them), so I focused on lower grade raws. Maybe it's just the hoarder in me, I would prefer having multiple copies of a book in lower grade than one really nice one.

[DirtbagSailor]

I've picked up about 20 raws and slabs this past week, and have observed that about a week ago I could bid on a copy, go to bed, wake up, discover I won and then pay.

Today I woke up and the 9.4 I was bidding on sold for $110 + shipping. As they say in the Navy, "stand-by for heavy rolls as the ship comes about..."

[Ramses818]

This is just crazy to me. But good news for Valiant as a lot of people are talking about them.

[Aomalle27]

I'm not sure things are actually selling; I've bid on this item,
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231508297977?nav=SEARCH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
only to lose the auction and see it relisted a week later ( though this seller has done that to me and others on several occassions)....

[FormerReader]

I'm not sure things are actually selling; I've bid on this item,
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231508297977?nav=SEARCH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
only to lose the auction and see it relisted a week later ( though this seller has done that to me and others on several occassions)....

Are they shilling their own auctions?

[Nairbe]

This is just crazy to me. But good news for Valiant as a lot of people are talking about them.

Agreed, great for Valiant, terrible for us.

[greg]

I'm not sure things are actually selling; I've bid on this item,
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231508297977?nav=SEARCH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
only to lose the auction and see it relisted a week later ( though this seller has done that to me and others on several occassions)....

Are they shilling their own auctions?

I've bought many CGC slabs from that seller. They're a pretty heavy submitter, so there's a chance that they're using a "stock image" (possibly accidentally) and then there's the non-paying bidder scenario.

I'd be very surprised if they're shilling, but who knows.

[FormerReader]

I'm not sure things are actually selling; I've bid on this item,
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231508297977?nav=SEARCH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
only to lose the auction and see it relisted a week later ( though this seller has done that to me and others on several occassions)....

Are they shilling their own auctions?

I've bought many CGC slabs from that seller. They're a pretty heavy submitter, so there's a chance that they're using a "stock image" (possibly accidentally) and then there's the non-paying bidder scenario.

I'd be very surprised if they're shilling, but who knows.

[geocarr]

Ya I came close to pulling the trigger very hard on a couple books in the mid 300s, I had a gut feeling the bottom was in...

Ditto.

...I've gotten almost entirely out of slabs (or are currently selling them), so I focused on lower grade raws. Maybe it's just the hoarder in me, I would prefer having multiple copies of a book in lower grade than one really nice one.

I'm trying to do both.

[Aomalle27]

I'm not sure things are actually selling; I've bid on this item,
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231508297977?nav=SEARCH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
only to lose the auction and see it relisted a week later ( though this seller has done that to me and others on several occassions)....

Are they shilling their own auctions?

I've bought many CGC slabs from that seller. They're a pretty heavy submitter, so there's a chance that they're using a "stock image" (possibly accidentally) and then there's the non-paying bidder scenario.

I'd be very surprised if they're shilling, but who knows.

But he/she is using the relist item option, as long as you don't remove a completed item from your watch list ebay will notify you if an item is relisted. It is possible they have multiple slabs and he just uses relist item as a means of listed a similar item, but just too many to be coincidence in my book; especially since the Movie news was announced. He's listed an A&A #1 cgc about six times in the last month each time it "sold". Legitimate non payers are a rareity on ebay now; though shill bidding and shill bid non pays are through the roof. (I've been the recipient of stumbling onto such a scheme with hockey cards, and when I won the auction, they conveniently stated they no longer had the item, then relisted the item two days after the auction was cancelled. When I complained to ebay it fell on deaf eats, despite the card being serialized and numbered 6/99. Its the only obe that exists, not possible to have doubles in that instance)

[BloodShot]

I'm not sure things are actually selling; I've bid on this item,
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231508297977?nav=SEARCH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
only to lose the auction and see it relisted a week later ( though this seller has done that to me and others on several occassions)....

Are they shilling their own auctions?

I've bought many CGC slabs from that seller. They're a pretty heavy submitter, so there's a chance that they're using a "stock image" (possibly accidentally) and then there's the non-paying bidder scenario.

I'd be very surprised if they're shilling, but who knows.

But he/she is using the relist item option, as long as you don't remove a completed item from your watch list ebay will notify you if an item is relisted. It is possible they have multiple slabs and he just uses relist item as a means of listed a similar item, but just too many to be coincidence in my book; especially since the Movie news was announced. He's listed an A&A #1 cgc about six times in the last month each time it "sold".

He is a completely legit seller whom I will personally vouch for. As much as I submit, he submits even more and has/had stacks of multiple premium V1 books and slabs that he's sold. Including to me. On more than a couple of occasions. He uses a relist option to make it simple; so what? I've done the same thing, and so do a lot of other high-volume sellers that constantly sell out of the same item, then replenish. Should he update his pic/scan with a current slab serial number? That certainly wouldn't hurt. But do you honestly believe a seller with over 29,000 transactions and still 100% positive feedback isn't legit? Instead of assuming he HAS to be shill bumping his own items, and/or relisting the SAME slabs over and over, why don't you just Message him about it? A little communication can go a long way.

[Intrepidxc]

I'm not sure things are actually selling; I've bid on this item,
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231508297977?nav=SEARCH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
only to lose the auction and see it relisted a week later ( though this seller has done that to me and others on several occassions)....

Are they shilling their own auctions?

I've bought many CGC slabs from that seller. They're a pretty heavy submitter, so there's a chance that they're using a "stock image" (possibly accidentally) and then there's the non-paying bidder scenario.

I'd be very surprised if they're shilling, but who knows.

But he/she is using the relist item option, as long as you don't remove a completed item from your watch list ebay will notify you if an item is relisted. It is possible they have multiple slabs and he just uses relist item as a means of listed a similar item, but just too many to be coincidence in my book; especially since the Movie news was announced. He's listed an A&A #1 cgc about six times in the last month each time it "sold". Legitimate non payers are a rareity on ebay now; though shill bidding and shill bid non pays are through the roof. (I've been the recipient of stumbling onto such a scheme with hockey cards, and when I won the auction, they conveniently stated they no longer had the item, then relisted the item two days after the auction was cancelled. When I complained to ebay it fell on deaf eats, despite the card being serialized and numbered 6/99. Its the only obe that exists, not possible to have doubles in that instance)

I've bought from jhcomics before and never had an issue. Maybe, using the relist option is just easier? I'm not a big eBay seller so I don't know.

[Intrepidxc]

I'm not sure things are actually selling; I've bid on this item,
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231508297977?nav=SEARCH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
only to lose the auction and see it relisted a week later ( though this seller has done that to me and others on several occassions)....

Are they shilling their own auctions?

I've bought many CGC slabs from that seller. They're a pretty heavy submitter, so there's a chance that they're using a "stock image" (possibly accidentally) and then there's the non-paying bidder scenario.

I'd be very surprised if they're shilling, but who knows.

But he/she is using the relist item option, as long as you don't remove a completed item from your watch list ebay will notify you if an item is relisted. It is possible they have multiple slabs and he just uses relist item as a means of listed a similar item, but just too many to be coincidence in my book; especially since the Movie news was announced. He's listed an A&A #1 cgc about six times in the last month each time it "sold".

He is a completely legit seller whom I will personally vouch for. As much as I submit, he submits even more and has/had stacks of multiple premium V1 books and slabs that he's sold. Including to me. On more than a couple of occasions. He uses a relist option to make it simple; so what? I've done the same thing, and so do a lot of other high-volume sellers that constantly sell out of the same item, then replenish. Should he update his pic/scan with a current slab serial number? That certainly wouldn't hurt. But do you honestly believe a seller with over 29,000 transactions and still 100% positive feedback isn't legit? Instead of assuming he HAS to be shill bumping his own items, and/or relisting the SAME slabs over and over, why don't you just Message him about it? A little communication can go a long way.

And that settles it!

[ckb]

I do the same thing and have for many years. For example, I sold my listing of VEI A&A 1 CGC 9.8 last night, if you look now it will be missing. Tonight I will pack one up and print the label, and then I will relist it, since I have a few more. This lets me react to the market as need be and I don't have to let everyone know how many I have.

If there is any significant demand coming it won't really matter how many I have.

[nycjadie]

Comic buyers on eBay, in my experience as a seller, are generally awful about paying.

I had 8 (EIGHT!) non-paying bidders on New Year's Eve. I was *SQUEE*. Sales were amazing, but then nobody paid.

I had a Swamp Thing Volume 3 set sell 3 times, and in each case, the bidder failed to pay. That was this year.

I had a Lady Death limited variant sell 3 times before it finally actually sold.

I think non-paying bidders are at the worst level since I started on eBay in 1997. There are no real repurcussions for the bidder. They bid, don't want to pay, and then the seller ends of waiting forever to get their fees reimbursed and to relist the item.

Often, ebay.sucks.

[BloodShot]

There are no real repurcussions for the NON-paying bidder. They bid, don't want to pay, and then the seller ends of waiting forever to get their fees reimbursed and to relist the item.

Often, ebay.sucks.

^^^^^^^^
THIS !!

[Dr Noel]

Comic buyers on eBay, in my experience as a seller, are generally awful about paying.

I had 8 (EIGHT!) non-paying bidders on New Year's Eve. I was *SQUEE*. Sales were amazing, but then nobody paid.

I had a Swamp Thing Volume 3 set sell 3 times, and in each case, the bidder failed to pay. That was this year.

I had a Lady Death limited variant sell 3 times before it finally actually sold.

I think non-paying bidders are at the worst level since I started on eBay in 1997. There are no real repurcussions for the bidder. They bid, don't want to pay, and then the seller ends of waiting forever to get their fees reimbursed and to relist the item.

Often, ebay.sucks.

I have a bad habit of forgetting I bid on something for a few days. But I always pay in the end and apologize if it's been sitting for a bit. Still crappy, I know....

[Intrepidxc]

Comic buyers on eBay, in my experience as a seller, are generally awful about paying.

I had 8 (EIGHT!) non-paying bidders on New Year's Eve. I was *SQUEE*. Sales were amazing, but then nobody paid.

I had a Swamp Thing Volume 3 set sell 3 times, and in each case, the bidder failed to pay. That was this year.

I had a Lady Death limited variant sell 3 times before it finally actually sold.

I think non-paying bidders are at the worst level since I started on eBay in 1997. There are no real repurcussions for the bidder. They bid, don't want to pay, and then the seller ends of waiting forever to get their fees reimbursed and to relist the item.

Often, ebay.sucks.

I always pay as quickly as possible. Don't bid if you don't want the item. On one occasion I really had a change of heart about an item. I contact the seller explained my desire to cancel the sale, but told him I would PAY as agreed if he didn't want the hassle of canceling the sale. The seller promptly thanked me for being honest with him and canceled the sale.

It's always better to deal with people honestly.

[nycjadie]

I totally get it. I give people several weeks to pay. It's not an issue on my end. I have a regular guy in Mexico that buys my stuff. Sometimes he's short on cash. Sometimes he wants to wait until he has 150-200 books before I mail them. He's taken up to 3 months to pay. I don't mind. BUT, he communicates expectations. Non-paying bidders never communicate, despite reminders.

[GGSAE]

Comic buyers on eBay, in my experience as a seller, are generally awful about paying.

I had 8 (EIGHT!) non-paying bidders on New Year's Eve. I was *SQUEE*. Sales were amazing, but then nobody paid.

I had a Swamp Thing Volume 3 set sell 3 times, and in each case, the bidder failed to pay. That was this year.

I had a Lady Death limited variant sell 3 times before it finally actually sold.

I think non-paying bidders are at the worst level since I started on eBay in 1997. There are no real repurcussions for the bidder. They bid, don't want to pay, and then the seller ends of waiting forever to get their fees reimbursed and to relist the item.

Often, ebay.sucks.

I think the highest level of consumer debt in the history of the economy probably has something to do with it. I read that in Calgary they average person has $28k in Canadian consumer debt! I think a lot of these type of people who lack fiscal discipline make all kinds of purchases and then regret it shortly after. Buying on ebay, gives buyers that window unlike shopping in a store to 'return' an item by not paying. I'm not justifying the behavior, just making a causal observation.

Also, isn't there a three strikes you're out as a non-bidder? Or does ebay just block your account from buying for awhile...