Which VEI Comic Will Start Going For Over Cover First?

[Knightt]

I don't sense the buzz about Valiant as it was in the '90s. The quality is there, but I wouldn't say they've taken the industry by storm where it will get the attention of speculators. For whatever reason they haven't been able to create the same speculator buzz as a company like Image has.

(not targeting you, tchalla8... just using your quote as a lead in, brother !! )

I (as were many others on the board) was there when the Valiant buzz hyped up and then took off... (this is my take on things back then but...) you had Wizard Magazine totally hyping the hell out of Valiant. This was GREAT for them and I thought, "rightfully so" as the storytelling was exceeding anything I was reading during that time. Not only did you have Wizard doing great things for them but they also managed a price guide that showed a monthly increase in value when it came to Valiant issues. Much of this was fueled by speculation, regular supply and demand but also there was the Death of Superman issue (Superman #75) (which was even featured on national television networks !!) that brought even non-comic collectors into LCSs by the dozens, exposing Valiant to not only new fans but even more speculators. Valiant's hype was nurtured by Wizard magazine and the emerging comic book speculation period of the early 90s.... but don't get me wrong, they had GREAT books and stories as well back then.

Today, who is hyping Valiant other than Valiant ? I have not read a trusted magazine (and Wizard was TRUSTED back then by many) that has taken them under their wing and proclaimed their greatness or shown a reason to collect/read Valiant. We have social media that is reaching thousands more comic fans on a daily basis more than Wizard magazine ever could and still there is not 'buzz' to fuel an aftermarket value increase in issues.

It's just not the same as it was "back then" and the speculation years of the comic hobby burned a lot of people, especially where Valiant is concerned... after all, who could blame Valiant for filling those orders estimating a total of 1,750,000 copies of Turok #1 ?

Comics rise in value because they become popular because they become popular !! Valiant just isn't that popular !! I guess they just don't have the formula down yet. Not trying to turn this into a variant discussion but I've spoken to waaay too many guys that were totally turned off by the number of variants and the apparent placing more emphasis and talent on the covers (regular, pullbox, variant) than on the interior art and writing alike.

Before the tv series deal, The Walking Dead was already pretty popular. The art has always been 'not great' but the STORY drew people in and kept them. Granted, the zombie craze has really helped but when you sit down to read the books, the story is about PEOPLE and the zombies are just a backdrop. Valiant needs to find that right mix for their formula and the right backdrop. Until then, no buzz about Valiant.

Valiant (VH1) started off being all about storytelling... (nudge nudge)

If a title were to 'take off', my best guess would be Harbinger. Interweaving the story of Toyo Harada has really cranked up the quality of that title for me. Maybe even putting the Harbinger kids story second to Toyo's? The title seems to have had it's own art style and feel from the very beginning which, to me, has set it apart from the rest. Not that I can relate to 'a bunch of kids' (nor do I wish to) but the adult interaction with either group having a sense of what is right... it makes for a good dynamic. The historic pieces have given this title more depth, making it feel less two dimensional. I think this could be that backdrop that I spoke of earlier. In the long run, readers will take to a title that has been cultured and developed with a rich history, filled with characters that they like and characters that they hate, characters that they care about.

[Knightt]

Don't think I'm not diggin' Valiant though... even if there isn't the 'buzz' like there was back then, I am still hyped all on my own to read Valiant every week. I only purchase one other title aside Valiant and that is Astro City.

I have the opportunity to check out other titles every month and nothing takes the number one slot from Valiant. Re-reading my (lengthy) post, I think it might come across as me not liking Valiant and that is far from the truth.

[betterthanezra]

Don't think I'm not diggin' Valiant though... even if there isn't the 'buzz' like there was back then, I am still hyped all on my own to read Valiant every week. I only purchase one other title aside Valiant and that is Astro City.

I have the opportunity to check out other titles every month and nothing takes the number one slot from Valiant. Re-reading my (lengthy) post, I think it might come across as me not liking Valiant and that is far from the truth.

After reading your Post it didn't to me come across as you not liking Valiant I can read the passion in what you typed for sure. I agree with what you wrote overall I feel the same way. We fans can beat our chests about how great Valiant (VEI) is to everyone it still comes down to those people putting there $3.99 down and buying the books. I don't feel the buzz so to speak but the passion from those creating the books is so there it will rub off on readers...

BTW I loved reading a passionate post from you Chris so glad you're posting again on the boards

-Brian

[Knightt]

Thanks Brian ! !

[jmatt]

Put A&A #12 in the list of possible books to sell over cover.
There isn't a ratio incentive on the book, so either "regular" cover is (currently) the best version of what is clearly an important book.

Let's hope that A&A 12 isn't the last good issue this time around.

My LCS had to return theirs to Diamond (again) -- I still don't have it!

[krylox]

I don't sense the buzz about Valiant as it was in the '90s. The quality is there, but I wouldn't say they've taken the industry by storm where it will get the attention of speculators. For whatever reason they haven't been able to create the same speculator buzz as a company like Image has.

(not targeting you, tchalla8... just using your quote as a lead in, brother !! )

I (as were many others on the board) was there when the Valiant buzz hyped up and then took off... (this is my take on things back then but...) you had Wizard Magazine totally hyping the hell out of Valiant. This was GREAT for them and I thought, "rightfully so" as the storytelling was exceeding anything I was reading during that time. Not only did you have Wizard doing great things for them but they also managed a price guide that showed a monthly increase in value when it came to Valiant issues. Much of this was fueled by speculation, regular supply and demand but also there was the Death of Superman issue (Superman #75) (which was even featured on national television networks !!) that brought even non-comic collectors into LCSs by the dozens, exposing Valiant to not only new fans but even more speculators. Valiant's hype was nurtured by Wizard magazine and the emerging comic book speculation period of the early 90s.... but don't get me wrong, they had GREAT books and stories as well back then.

Today, who is hyping Valiant other than Valiant ? I have not read a trusted magazine (and Wizard was TRUSTED back then by many) that has taken them under their wing and proclaimed their greatness or shown a reason to collect/read Valiant. We have social media that is reaching thousands more comic fans on a daily basis more than Wizard magazine ever could and still there is not 'buzz' to fuel an aftermarket value increase in issues.

It's just not the same as it was "back then" and the speculation years of the comic hobby burned a lot of people, especially where Valiant is concerned... after all, who could blame Valiant for filling those orders estimating a total of 1,750,000 copies of Turok #1 ?

Comics rise in value because they become popular because they become popular !! Valiant just isn't that popular !! I guess they just don't have the formula down yet. Not trying to turn this into a variant discussion but I've spoken to waaay too many guys that were totally turned off by the number of variants and the apparent placing more emphasis and talent on the covers (regular, pullbox, variant) than on the interior art and writing alike.

Before the tv series deal, The Walking Dead was already pretty popular. The art has always been 'not great' but the STORY drew people in and kept them. Granted, the zombie craze has really helped but when you sit down to read the books, the story is about PEOPLE and the zombies are just a backdrop. Valiant needs to find that right mix for their formula and the right backdrop. Until then, no buzz about Valiant.

Valiant (VH1) started off being all about storytelling... (nudge nudge)

If a title were to 'take off', my best guess would be Harbinger. Interweaving the story of Toyo Harada has really cranked up the quality of that title for me. Maybe even putting the Harbinger kids story second to Toyo's? The title seems to have had it's own art style and feel from the very beginning which, to me, has set it apart from the rest. Not that I can relate to 'a bunch of kids' (nor do I wish to) but the adult interaction with either group having a sense of what is right... it makes for a good dynamic. The historic pieces have given this title more depth, making it feel less two dimensional. I think this could be that backdrop that I spoke of earlier. In the long run, readers will take to a title that has been cultured and developed with a rich history, filled with characters that they like and characters that they hate, characters that they care about.

GREAT POST

It's pretty close to what I was trying to say with this thread. I really like the new VEI, but i miss the excitement and originality of VH1.
As great as VEI has been in rebooting all those titles in the most character-respectful way, they partially failed in re-creating the deepness and richness of the storytelling - with Harbinger being possibly the sole exception.
If me, as a longtime fan, feel this way, how could those books possibly attract new readers....?

I recently gave away the first Harbinger trade - the forth time already. Everyone's been hooked so far (they have been semi-casual or non-comic readers, btw), but when they ask me which other titles I would wholeheartedly recommend... well, I do like the first X-O and Bloodshot trades, they're good comics. But I always go with Rachel Rising, Saga, Sweet Tooth, Hawkeye, Lazarus etc... all of them "hype books". But they are so for a very good reason: cause they're amazing reads!

[ShadowTuga]

If me, as a longtime fan, feel this way, how could those books possibly attract new readers....?

Now, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG ASSUMPTION.

Different people, different tastes. I am a "new" fan, but I bought and read some of the old stuff recently (last year or so) and I DO prefer this Version.
I'm not the only one who enjoy these new comics, as you can see by the increasing number of NEW TO VALIANT people who have joined the boards since the reboot.
And VEI WAS publisher of the year (in their category) in 2012. I think the books are VERY, VERY good, critics and fans of THIS VALIANT agree that it's one of the best shared universes out there (them and the Big 2).

If you don't LIKE a book, drop it- as I did to so many of my Marvel and DC deadweights. And, you can always go back and read vh1, if it's your thing and nothing else.

BUt the books DO ATTRACT NEW READERS, and coming UNITY I'm almost certain that sales will shoot.

Peace

[Phantom]

Is it harder to hype a book now?
I mean their is no 'wizard' marketing machine anymore.
Their is comic shop news, which I love - but not in uk gets it to give away that know of.

When I was a manager in a comic shop, comic shop news and the diamond previews ( their was another one but diamond brought it ) this gave us alot of additional orders and help sell lots of stuff.

Knightt mentions wizard was trusted magazine back then. I don't agree with that, but maybe that was us in that particular comic book chain. ( not going to start anything over that - with previous history - just saying I don't agree). We got a copy for the shop so people could flick through it, and usually only ordered it for customers who wanted the 1/2 mags inside or cards. Defiantly didn't use it to price books, we used the over street.

One good thing i liked about wizard, was not the hyped articles or price guide it was the Market report. Comic shop owners reporting on what's selling in their shop, back issues and current. To advertise our comic chain we even submitted, obviously we mentioned only USA books. Our biggest seller by far was the phantom comic and merchandise.

As an advertising magazine of up coming comic events and merchandise, it was a great mag. But what sold and gave us much better preorder sales and interest diamond previews.

But their is no wizard. Is bleeding cool going to take it's place?
Forbidden planet manager complains of lack of advertising from valiant.
I see no in-store advertising but we are in the uk.

We used to get SO many posters, mini books, three page promos, etc etc with the shop copy of previews. Every month we would be putting up new posters etc, or having promos for customers to look at and read. Maybe it is cost prohibitive for valiant to put these extras into the shop copies of diamond.

Seems to me, valiant is relying on word of mouth - conventions, and online reviews. If their fan base grows from this - brilliant good for them. It maybe a slower growth than what they want, but it may mean they can get more issues out of high quality stuff rather than spending it on advertising. Hoping quality will bring more in the end.

Hopefully their 100% refund on unity 1 will entice retailers to stack a few more on the shelves. The name 'unity' hopefully will remind people of valiant. Also it's in it's second year going to it's third - this adds trust of something like ATLAS ( not being mean, but where are they? ). In a interview Dino mentions they are ok for a few more years financially, so when the numbers are in the 30/40 Mark maybe more people will see them as real players in the industry

As for the title of the treAd, I think their are less collectors and more readers. People picking up trades of the shelf. The only reason I am not just going to by the hardcovers when they come out, is because I want to support valiant at the shop front. Seriously. I can easily wait for the story, and get the hardcover. It's cheaper than the comics and you get extras - what's not to love.

In the uk, people do try and sell the regular copies for more than cover, eBay. Oh eBay, i could save a bunch of cash by waiting and buying via eBay. So copies have sold over cover price, but most sell for cover or less. Specially runs shipped - some cheap/ some hoping very tempting not to buy multiple times.

[lorddunlow]

I don't about other shops, but my LCS gets a buttload of promo material from VEI.

[Phantom]

Really well that's fantastic news!
I wonder if it is shipped with diamond previews? Uk get none and it's the same preview book.
Maybe in the USA they ship to comic shops direct rather than pay additional costs to ship with store versions of the preview books.

[krylox]

I don't about other shops, but my LCS gets a buttload of promo material from VEI.

mine, too. and we're in germany.

[Phantom]

Really, wow.
Forbidden planet gets promos but none from valiant.

I wonder if Germany gets their orders direct, as I THINK their is a uk diamond previews subsidiary as I spoke to some guys at the diamond booth at kapow and their card was diamond uk.

The only poster that forbidden planet put up was one I got from valiant direct.

[grendeljd]

I don't about other shops, but my LCS gets a buttload of promo material from VEI.

Mine gets plenty of promo posters etc now - and always puts one of anything they get aside for me too.
However, they don't really put up the posters on display. Smaller flyers are put up on a rack, and to be fair, try give away the posters to whomever they think will like them...

It's definitely a different era now when comparing to the 90's or earlier. A single magazine like Wizard is no longer enough to be 'the' go-to resource for the industry any more... I think magazines in general are taking a beating from the existence of widespread online social media. Most info gets spread like wildfire via that route, and it kind of makes it a bit of a serious challenge to offer a monthly info mag with any substance that isn't already available to read online.

Whether the fractured nature of this evolution in the Information Age is better or worse is open for debate, I suppose. Do people feel more like they are part of a greater community, or is it just more difficult to keep up with everything that is going on? Is it harder for Valiant to draw attention to itself in an ocean of related info, as opposed to being supported by a single, popular focal point of comic hobbyists in the past (Wizard)?

[StarBrand]

My picks:

Harbinger 1 pullbox
Shadowman 1 pullbox

[StarBrand]

My picks:

Harbinger 1 pullbox
Shadowman 1 pullbox

I agree with the Shadowman 1 Pullbox.

If I am not mistaken, XO #1 2nd, 3rd print and AA #1 2nd Print are going for more than cover price.

I didn't intend for extra printings to be considered. Not sure if I got that point across, though.

[kjjohanson]

I don't about other shops, but my LCS gets a buttload of promo material from VEI.

Mine gets plenty of promo posters etc now - and always puts one of anything they get aside for me too.
However, they don't really put up the posters on display. Smaller flyers are put up on a rack, and to be fair, try give away the posters to whomever they think will like them...

It's definitely a different era now when comparing to the 90's or earlier. A single magazine like Wizard is no longer enough to be 'the' go-to resource for the industry any more... I think magazines in general are taking a beating from the existence of widespread online social media. Most info gets spread like wildfire via that route, and it kind of makes it a bit of a serious challenge to offer a monthly info mag with any substance that isn't already available to read online.

Whether the fractured nature of this evolution in the Information Age is better or worse is open for debate, I suppose. Do people feel more like they are part of a greater community, or is it just more difficult to keep up with everything that is going on? Is it harder for Valiant to draw attention to itself in an ocean of related info, as opposed to being supported by a single, popular focal point of comic hobbyists in the past (Wizard)?

The problem with that dynamic was that Wizard was creating the news as much as reporting it, so there was a lot of quality product that was overlooked in favor of what was "hot"; and most of what was "hot" was in a pretty similar vein. I think we have much more diversity today than we did in the '90s, and more importantly, high-quality diversity.

It looks like Bleeding Cool is trying to be the new Wizard, what with the exclusive Shadowman and Unity 1/2 books. Their printed version even has a small price guide a la Wizards showing some of the prices that recent "hot" books have been going for.

[400yrs]

I don't about other shops, but my LCS gets a buttload of promo material from VEI.

Mine gets plenty of promo posters etc now - and always puts one of anything they get aside for me too.
However, they don't really put up the posters on display. Smaller flyers are put up on a rack, and to be fair, try give away the posters to whomever they think will like them...

It's definitely a different era now when comparing to the 90's or earlier. A single magazine like Wizard is no longer enough to be 'the' go-to resource for the industry any more... I think magazines in general are taking a beating from the existence of widespread online social media. Most info gets spread like wildfire via that route, and it kind of makes it a bit of a serious challenge to offer a monthly info mag with any substance that isn't already available to read online.

Whether the fractured nature of this evolution in the Information Age is better or worse is open for debate, I suppose. Do people feel more like they are part of a greater community, or is it just more difficult to keep up with everything that is going on? Is it harder for Valiant to draw attention to itself in an ocean of related info, as opposed to being supported by a single, popular focal point of comic hobbyists in the past (Wizard)?

The problem with that dynamic was that Wizard was creating the news as much as reporting it, so there was a lot of quality product that was overlooked in favor of what was "hot"; and most of what was "hot" was in a pretty similar vein. I think we have much more diversity today than we did in the '90s, and more importantly, high-quality diversity.

It looks like Bleeding Cool is trying to be the new Wizard, what with the exclusive Shadowman and Unity 1/2 books. Their printed version even has a small price guide a la Wizards showing some of the prices that recent "hot" books have been going for.

Bleeding Cool is definitely trying to be the new wizard. This feels just like a nineties move. The difference though is that bleeding cool CANNOT provide the same exposure to valiant that wizard did. Frankly, I'd be surprised if this move with bleeding cool did little more than help bc sell more copies of its rag and harmed valiant because people aren't going to be able to get the story parts that bc has because no shops order BC. I've never seen them in shops. What's the point? Bad move IMO. I don't know whose call this is, but my guess would be that it's the call of a publisher who is taking a time machine back to the nineties, but it's an Uncle Rico style time machine that ain't gonna work, but will leave a sting.

[cplsimon]

I don't about other shops, but my LCS gets a buttload of promo material from VEI.

Mine gets plenty of promo posters etc now - and always puts one of anything they get aside for me too.
However, they don't really put up the posters on display. Smaller flyers are put up on a rack, and to be fair, try give away the posters to whomever they think will like them...

It's definitely a different era now when comparing to the 90's or earlier. A single magazine like Wizard is no longer enough to be 'the' go-to resource for the industry any more... I think magazines in general are taking a beating from the existence of widespread online social media. Most info gets spread like wildfire via that route, and it kind of makes it a bit of a serious challenge to offer a monthly info mag with any substance that isn't already available to read online.

Whether the fractured nature of this evolution in the Information Age is better or worse is open for debate, I suppose. Do people feel more like they are part of a greater community, or is it just more difficult to keep up with everything that is going on? Is it harder for Valiant to draw attention to itself in an ocean of related info, as opposed to being supported by a single, popular focal point of comic hobbyists in the past (Wizard)?

They have them in my LCS
The problem with that dynamic was that Wizard was creating the news as much as reporting it, so there was a lot of quality product that was overlooked in favor of what was "hot"; and most of what was "hot" was in a pretty similar vein. I think we have much more diversity today than we did in the '90s, and more importantly, high-quality diversity.

It looks like Bleeding Cool is trying to be the new Wizard, what with the exclusive Shadowman and Unity 1/2 books. Their printed version even has a small price guide a la Wizards showing some of the prices that recent "hot" books have been going for.

Bleeding Cool is definitely trying to be the new wizard. This feels just like a nineties move. The difference though is that bleeding cool CANNOT provide the same exposure to valiant that wizard did. Frankly, I'd be surprised if this move with bleeding cool did little more than help bc sell more copies of its rag and harmed valiant because people aren't going to be able to get the story parts that bc has because no shops order BC. I've never seen them in shops. What's the point? Bad move IMO. I don't know whose call this is, but my guess would be that it's the call of a publisher who is taking a time machine back to the nineties, but it's an Uncle Rico style time machine that ain't gonna work, but will leave a sting.

[Ramses818]

I respectfully disagree with your opinion. I think Bleeding cool can help. The issue 1 cover was awesome (Bloodshot 1) and it did get people talking. Now that may be because I live in a bigger market (Los Angeles Ca.) but I think it will help. I also think that anybody spreading word will help. How many people remember the Long Beach comic con? How small that first con panel was? Or even before that @ C2E2 when Valiant was giving away the first preview book? Now look at how many people showed up @SDCC in a after hours panel where Valiant didn't even have a booth! Look at the 1:50 variants on ebay....X-O 11? cant be found but when it was it was over $60.00 often. X-O Manowar 15? Not unless you spend over $100.00!! . That to me is a true indicator of what the company is doing. You dont see early Valiant on the shelves anymore. You dont see variants in the stores either. I will be curious to see what happens after Eternal Warrior 1 and Unity 1 both hit... Just a hunch but I think we will start seeing alot more new Valiant board members

[bygranddesign]

Bloodshot #1 (Lozzi cover)

Very iconic looking cover.

Who knows when a movie will actually happen but I could see that cover being on all the promo's ...

Mathew Vaughn attached to direct. Very good choice. He knows how to make smartly written violent comic book movies (kiss *SQUEE*)

I could see this cover going well above cover price at some point

When checking Ebay, when you include shipping, its hard to get this cover under 8 bucks

[cjv]

I don't sense the buzz about Valiant as it was in the '90s. The quality is there, but I wouldn't say they've taken the industry by storm where it will get the attention of speculators. For whatever reason they haven't been able to create the same speculator buzz as a company like Image has.

(not targeting you, tchalla8... just using your quote as a lead in, brother !! )

I (as were many others on the board) was there when the Valiant buzz hyped up and then took off... (this is my take on things back then but...) you had Wizard Magazine totally hyping the hell out of Valiant. This was GREAT for them and I thought, "rightfully so" as the storytelling was exceeding anything I was reading during that time. Not only did you have Wizard doing great things for them but they also managed a price guide that showed a monthly increase in value when it came to Valiant issues. Much of this was fueled by speculation, regular supply and demand but also there was the Death of Superman issue (Superman #75) (which was even featured on national television networks !!) that brought even non-comic collectors into LCSs by the dozens, exposing Valiant to not only new fans but even more speculators. Valiant's hype was nurtured by Wizard magazine and the emerging comic book speculation period of the early 90s.... but don't get me wrong, they had GREAT books and stories as well back then.

Today, who is hyping Valiant other than Valiant ? I have not read a trusted magazine (and Wizard was TRUSTED back then by many) that has taken them under their wing and proclaimed their greatness or shown a reason to collect/read Valiant. We have social media that is reaching thousands more comic fans on a daily basis more than Wizard magazine ever could and still there is not 'buzz' to fuel an aftermarket value increase in issues.

It's just not the same as it was "back then" and the speculation years of the comic hobby burned a lot of people, especially where Valiant is concerned... after all, who could blame Valiant for filling those orders estimating a total of 1,750,000 copies of Turok #1 ?

Comics rise in value because they become popular because they become popular !! Valiant just isn't that popular !! I guess they just don't have the formula down yet. Not trying to turn this into a variant discussion but I've spoken to waaay too many guys that were totally turned off by the number of variants and the apparent placing more emphasis and talent on the covers (regular, pullbox, variant) than on the interior art and writing alike.

Before the tv series deal, The Walking Dead was already pretty popular. The art has always been 'not great' but the STORY drew people in and kept them. Granted, the zombie craze has really helped but when you sit down to read the books, the story is about PEOPLE and the zombies are just a backdrop. Valiant needs to find that right mix for their formula and the right backdrop. Until then, no buzz about Valiant.

Valiant (VH1) started off being all about storytelling... (nudge nudge)

If a title were to 'take off', my best guess would be Harbinger. Interweaving the story of Toyo Harada has really cranked up the quality of that title for me. Maybe even putting the Harbinger kids story second to Toyo's? The title seems to have had it's own art style and feel from the very beginning which, to me, has set it apart from the rest. Not that I can relate to 'a bunch of kids' (nor do I wish to) but the adult interaction with either group having a sense of what is right... it makes for a good dynamic. The historic pieces have given this title more depth, making it feel less two dimensional. I think this could be that backdrop that I spoke of earlier. In the long run, readers will take to a title that has been cultured and developed with a rich history, filled with characters that they like and characters that they hate, characters that they care about.

I would also add that the mainstream comic market is a lot more varied right now.

Back in the early 90's, when VH1 came out, there were the big two companies that dominated. There were some "big" independants, like Dark Horse, that put out some different stuff, and there were various small, self published titles that were great, but for the most part the market was pretty uniform, consisting of DC and Marvel. And the majority of the stuff that DC and Marvel put out was pretty standard (not that there wasn't good stuff, or that the "standard" stuff wasn't good, but there was little variety). Then, along comes Valint with focuses, more so than the main two publishers, on tight continuity, good character driven stories, and it was something that was very different. Image (at the time) took a different approach focusing more on art, but IMO that mirrored more what was going on with the two big companies.

Now, I think there is much more variety, and much more quality, in the standard comic market. If you go into a comic book store, there are many more publishers, and many more quality titles than previously, so when something really good comes out, it is not as much of a shock.

To put it another way, having lobster after eating macaroni and cheese for two years leaves an impression. Having lobster when you have lobster once a week doesn't.

Chris

[StarBrand]

Anyone see any movement on regular VEI issues? Mycomicshop has Harbinger 2 at over 7.00. They are fairly conservative on pricing, and this price must make sense to them. I've no idea if they've made a sale at this price, but I imagine they've made sales at least at close to 7.00 on this book. I recall when this issue broke it was said to be underprinted.

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[drmirage]

Why buy the regular cover at $7.00 if you can buy the 1:20 Variant for $14.57 + shipping

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harbinger-2-1-2 ... 2a35977805" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is a great deal BTW. Its not easy to find.

Anyone see any movement on regular VEI issues? Mycomicshop has Harbinger 2 at over 7.00. They are fairly conservative on pricing, and this price must make sense to them. I've no idea if they've made a sale at this price, but I imagine they've made sales at least at close to 7.00 on this book. I recall when this issue broke it was said to be underprinted.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310837242901?ss ... 1438.l2649" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[bygranddesign]

as requested...

[Phoenix8008]

Archer & Armstrong #2 going for $1,995.00!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ARCHER-ARMSTRON ... 2c78dfe9da