Your greatest comic book disappointments
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Your greatest comic book disappointments
What are your greatest comic book disappointments?
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Certainly one of my greatest disappointments in comics was the way the whole Jim Shooter/Dark Horse/Gold Key launch went down.
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That is one.StarBrand wrote:Certainly one of my greatest disappointments in comics was the way the whole Jim Shooter/Dark Horse/Gold Key launch went down.
Milestone not being in regular publication as its own thing.
Spider-girl and the whole MC2 just fading away.
!mpact Comics ending.
The tonal shift at DC Comics from around 2005 onward.
Missing out on buying one of the 1000 limited hardcover Zenith collections.
Ultimatum.
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Crossgen's fall
DC failure to consistently produce a good Legion of Superheroes title
DC failure to consistently produce a good Legion of Superheroes title
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Re: Your greatest comic book disappointments
Ex Machina
I still get mad thinking about the end of that piece of *SQUEE*
I still get mad thinking about the end of that piece of *SQUEE*
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Spiderman: clone saga.... nuff said.
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Defiant.
Broadway.
Dark Key.
Broadway.
Dark Key.
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+1jedimarley wrote:Defiant.
Broadway.
Dark Key.
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I'm gonna say pretty much everything from 1995. So bad it made me stop buying any comics for years.
honorable mention to almost every early 90's Image book
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What's happened with Ghost Rider the last few years. I'm a huge fan of the character, particularly the 70s Johnny Blaze version. The late 80s/early 90s Dan Ketch was also really good for a while (and made Mark Texeira the definitive Ghost Rider artist), then it got too complicated and wallowed in mediocrity before being cancelled. Then Garth Ennis got a hold of the character and told the same crappy unoriginal story he always tells. Then there was finally a spark of excellence when the new ongoing launched with Daniel Way writing and Mark Texeira back on art, and Johnny Blaze as the title character. For me, this was the best Ghost Rider. A lone biker, haunted by a demon, running into trouble and dealing out vengeance. I thought Daniel Way really nailed what I loved so much about the character. He understood the core biker part, which nobody else has. And Mark Texeira's art is just the absolute perfect fit for the character. Then, Jason Aaron came along and took the book right back to the same overly complicated crap from the 90's with a mix of Garth Ennis's "God is just as bad as Satan" crap thrown in. And things got worse from there.
And now, they've announced a new Ghost Rider. And he drives a car. A freaking car. Ghost Rider driving a freaking car. It's a '69 Dodge Charger, which is awesome, but still, Ghost Rider in a car?
And now, they've announced a new Ghost Rider. And he drives a car. A freaking car. Ghost Rider driving a freaking car. It's a '69 Dodge Charger, which is awesome, but still, Ghost Rider in a car?
I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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Yikes. Talk about not getting it. The interior must smell kinda... toasty. Do flames blow out the sunroof?Heath wrote:And now, they've announced a new Ghost Rider. And he drives a car. A freaking car. Ghost Rider driving a freaking car.
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Heath wrote:What's happened with Ghost Rider the last few years. I'm a huge fan of the character, particularly the 70s Johnny Blaze version. The late 80s/early 90s Dan Ketch was also really good for a while (and made Mark Texeira the definitive Ghost Rider artist), then it got too complicated and wallowed in mediocrity before being cancelled. Then Garth Ennis got a hold of the character and told the same crappy unoriginal story he always tells. Then there was finally a spark of excellence when the new ongoing launched with Daniel Way writing and Mark Texeira back on art, and Johnny Blaze as the title character. For me, this was the best Ghost Rider. A lone biker, haunted by a demon, running into trouble and dealing out vengeance. I thought Daniel Way really nailed what I loved so much about the character. He understood the core biker part, which nobody else has. And Mark Texeira's art is just the absolute perfect fit for the character. Then, Jason Aaron came along and took the book right back to the same overly complicated crap from the 90's with a mix of Garth Ennis's "God is just as bad as Satan" crap thrown in. And things got worse from there.
And now, they've announced a new Ghost Rider. And he drives a car. A freaking car. Ghost Rider driving a freaking car. It's a '69 Dodge Charger, which is awesome, but still, Ghost Rider in a car?
Heath I get the feeling you are an Evil Knievil fan. Remember those bad *SQUEE* toys in the late 70's/Early 80's?
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Just about Marvel's entire line from the last 23+ years.
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Heath wrote:What's happened with Ghost Rider the last few years. I'm a huge fan of the character, particularly the 70s Johnny Blaze version. The late 80s/early 90s Dan Ketch was also really good for a while (and made Mark Texeira the definitive Ghost Rider artist), then it got too complicated and wallowed in mediocrity before being cancelled. Then Garth Ennis got a hold of the character and told the same crappy unoriginal story he always tells. Then there was finally a spark of excellence when the new ongoing launched with Daniel Way writing and Mark Texeira back on art, and Johnny Blaze as the title character. For me, this was the best Ghost Rider. A lone biker, haunted by a demon, running into trouble and dealing out vengeance. I thought Daniel Way really nailed what I loved so much about the character. He understood the core biker part, which nobody else has. And Mark Texeira's art is just the absolute perfect fit for the character. Then, Jason Aaron came along and took the book right back to the same overly complicated crap from the 90's with a mix of Garth Ennis's "God is just as bad as Satan" crap thrown in. And things got worse from there.
And now, they've announced a new Ghost Rider. And he drives a car. A freaking car. Ghost Rider driving a freaking car. It's a '69 Dodge Charger, which is awesome, but still, Ghost Rider in a car?
Now THAT is *SQUEE* - ing stupid.
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the Poison Elves reboot
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Yes! I love Evel Knievel! Was a huge fan as a kid and had a lot of merchandise. I don't have any of that original stuff, but I do have some replica toys including the stunt motorcycle and launcher.Jace wrote:Heath I get the feeling you are an Evil Knievil fan. Remember those bad *SQUEE* toys in the late 70's/Early 80's?Heath wrote:What's happened with Ghost Rider the last few years. I'm a huge fan of the character, particularly the 70s Johnny Blaze version. The late 80s/early 90s Dan Ketch was also really good for a while (and made Mark Texeira the definitive Ghost Rider artist), then it got too complicated and wallowed in mediocrity before being cancelled. Then Garth Ennis got a hold of the character and told the same crappy unoriginal story he always tells. Then there was finally a spark of excellence when the new ongoing launched with Daniel Way writing and Mark Texeira back on art, and Johnny Blaze as the title character. For me, this was the best Ghost Rider. A lone biker, haunted by a demon, running into trouble and dealing out vengeance. I thought Daniel Way really nailed what I loved so much about the character. He understood the core biker part, which nobody else has. And Mark Texeira's art is just the absolute perfect fit for the character. Then, Jason Aaron came along and took the book right back to the same overly complicated crap from the 90's with a mix of Garth Ennis's "God is just as bad as Satan" crap thrown in. And things got worse from there.
And now, they've announced a new Ghost Rider. And he drives a car. A freaking car. Ghost Rider driving a freaking car. It's a '69 Dodge Charger, which is awesome, but still, Ghost Rider in a car?
I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents at DC.
the stories where great but they didn't sell too good.
i was hopping they would integrate the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents into the DC Universe.
the stories where great but they didn't sell too good.
i was hopping they would integrate the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents into the DC Universe.
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For real?! This confirms for me why it's a good idea to not read Marvel anymore. They just don't get their own stuff anymore, do they?Heath wrote:What's happened with Ghost Rider the last few years. I'm a huge fan of the character, particularly the 70s Johnny Blaze version. The late 80s/early 90s Dan Ketch was also really good for a while (and made Mark Texeira the definitive Ghost Rider artist), then it got too complicated and wallowed in mediocrity before being cancelled. Then Garth Ennis got a hold of the character and told the same crappy unoriginal story he always tells. Then there was finally a spark of excellence when the new ongoing launched with Daniel Way writing and Mark Texeira back on art, and Johnny Blaze as the title character. For me, this was the best Ghost Rider. A lone biker, haunted by a demon, running into trouble and dealing out vengeance. I thought Daniel Way really nailed what I loved so much about the character. He understood the core biker part, which nobody else has. And Mark Texeira's art is just the absolute perfect fit for the character. Then, Jason Aaron came along and took the book right back to the same overly complicated crap from the 90's with a mix of Garth Ennis's "God is just as bad as Satan" crap thrown in. And things got worse from there.
And now, they've announced a new Ghost Rider. And he drives a car. A freaking car. Ghost Rider driving a freaking car. It's a '69 Dodge Charger, which is awesome, but still, Ghost Rider in a car?
I love the character of Ghost Rider. Have ever since late in the original run. He seems to be a tough character to write properly, though.
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Strikeforce Morituri #21-31 (end of the monthly series), & Strikeforce Morituri: Electric Undertow 1-5.
The first 20 issues by Peter Gillis & Brent Anderson are simply some of the best stories fusing sci-fi & superhero concepts together I have ever read. A new creative team took over with #21 that flat out didn't grasp the core concepts of the series that made it so excellent, nor did the art suit the book anymore. A real shame - I re-read the series once a year or so & still get a little angry that the end of it is so horrible, and that the full potential of that world is still unrealized.
The first 20 issues by Peter Gillis & Brent Anderson are simply some of the best stories fusing sci-fi & superhero concepts together I have ever read. A new creative team took over with #21 that flat out didn't grasp the core concepts of the series that made it so excellent, nor did the art suit the book anymore. A real shame - I re-read the series once a year or so & still get a little angry that the end of it is so horrible, and that the full potential of that world is still unrealized.
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Re: Your greatest comic book disappointments
Pretty much every Marvel giant X-over after Fall of the Mutants.
I still think that these killed comics in the nineties more than Valiant/Image did.
They just survived.
I still think that these killed comics in the nineties more than Valiant/Image did.
They just survived.
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I never really thought of that as a main reason for the comic book crash, but I'm sure you are right about that.kevinbastos wrote:Pretty much every Marvel giant X-over after Fall of the Mutants.
I still think that these killed comics in the nineties more than Valiant/Image did.
They just survived.
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Re: Your greatest comic book disappointments
Unfinished stories such as those solicited and never published by Acclaim, Unity 2000 etc.
Planetary's short-lived life span
Bringing Jean Grey back to life the first time
Resurrecting Norman Osborn
Greedo shooting first...oh wait, you said comic book....
Planetary's short-lived life span
Bringing Jean Grey back to life the first time
Resurrecting Norman Osborn
Greedo shooting first...oh wait, you said comic book....
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I've always enjoyed a good GR story...and visually, he's a fantastically designed character. That said, I cannot believe how bad the new series' preview art blowsjmatt wrote:Yikes. Talk about not getting it. The interior must smell kinda... toasty. Do flames blow out the sunroof?Heath wrote:And now, they've announced a new Ghost Rider. And he drives a car. A freaking car. Ghost Rider driving a freaking car.
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Really, the art and character design is really horrible.
Another disappointment I have is Spider-Man. Things were going pretty great until Quesada started interfering with JMS culminating in One More Day and the total continuity screw up of Brand New Day. It was enough to make me stop buying Spider-Man comics and that hurt.
Another disappointment I have is Spider-Man. Things were going pretty great until Quesada started interfering with JMS culminating in One More Day and the total continuity screw up of Brand New Day. It was enough to make me stop buying Spider-Man comics and that hurt.
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Re: Your greatest comic book disappointments
+1Jace wrote:Crossgen's fall
DC failure to consistently produce a good Legion of Superheroes title
Cancelling LSH in favor of a JL 3000 title is just salt added onto the wound.