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So does anyone else think VEI might be overplaying their hand a little too early on all these 0 issues? I can understand 1 or 2 maybe (and yes, the Harbinger and Shadowman stories were awesome, but there's no reason they needed to be told in the publishing chronology they chose), but with A&A and now Bloodshot getting the 0 treatment within the first year....it feels like this is less to serve the story and more to serve the bottom line of having an "event" book. I was kinda hoping they'd save some of these big back story revelations (especially Bloodshot) for some real goodness down the road. Spread these things out a bit. I really don't want to find out Bloodshot's true origins yet. it's too soon. That's part of what makes the book compelling. What he doesn't know.

I'm really hoping they hold off on X-O #0 for quite a while. Maybe a couple of years down the road with a story that could turn everything we've read up until that point on it its head. These things have a greater impact if they effect a much larger story than what we've gotten so far. How much more awesome would Harby #0 and SM #0 have been if we had read the Harada and Darque origins after a couple of years worth of stories to digest.

Just my thoughts. What does everyone else think?
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I don't know. Having only read one and two more coming soon. I can't really determine. I would think that's it's smart. Marvel and DC don't that often. And it's one of Valiant's signatures. But really it's different for everyone. Plus, the Bloodshot #0 isn't coming out till late summer.
I also don't want to see and X-O #0 for a while as well. That is a story that doesn't need to much explanation. Unless the Vine somehow come back. Because when can clearly see in the H.A.R.D Corps preview that the Vine get eradicated. But they could return and have a X-O #0 about the Vine's origins. But I have wanted to see a Bloodshot #0. They could use a Bloodshot #0. Bloodshot is kind of like the movie Memento. It starts out backwards. It really is lost and confused. In my opinion it could use some piecing together.

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Are the stories good?

That's what matters.

So far, the zero issues have been great, and the upcoming ones look really good too.
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tchalla8 wrote:So does anyone else think VEI might be overplaying their hand a little too early on all these 0 issues? I can understand 1 or 2 maybe (and yes, the Harbinger and Shadowman stories were awesome, but there's no reason they needed to be told in the publishing chronology they chose), but with A&A and now Bloodshot getting the 0 treatment within the first year....it feels like this is less to serve the story and more to serve the bottom line of having an "event" book. I was kinda hoping they'd save some of these big back story revelations (especially Bloodshot) for some real goodness down the road. Spread these things out a bit. I really don't want to find out Bloodshot's true origins yet. it's too soon. That's part of what makes the book compelling. What he doesn't know.

I'm really hoping they hold off on X-O #0 for quite a while. Maybe a couple of years down the road with a story that could turn everything we've read up until that point on it its head. These things have a greater impact if they effect a much larger story than what we've gotten so far. How much more awesome would Harby #0 and SM #0 have been if we had read the Harada and Darque origins after a couple of years worth of stories to digest.

Just my thoughts. What does everyone else think?
Do the zero issues tell a story in the past that leads into what would be the new story arcs? Yes. So why not do it? If Valiant would be purposefully spreading these out just for the sake of spreading it out like you suggest, then it really makes the zero issues an event comic instead of a storytelling device.

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Dr. Solar wrote:Are the covers chromium?

That's what matters.

So far, the zero issues have been great, and the upcoming ones look really good too.
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I was hoping they wouldn't burn out on the zero issues, too.

After all, even in the original Valiant, some titles NEVER had a zero issue. It seems like just over a year, and nearly every title has one.

HOWEVER, I agree with Dr. S. If they stories are good, it is welcome.
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lorddunlow wrote:
Dr. Solar wrote:Are the covers chromium?

That's what matters.

So far, the zero issues have been great, and the upcoming ones look really good too.
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DrSoup007 wrote:I don't know. Having only read one and two more coming soon. I can't really determine. I would think that's it's smart. Marvel and DC don't that often. And it's one of Valiant's signatures. But really it's different for everyone. Plus, the Bloodshot #0 isn't coming out till late summer.
I also don't want to see and X-O #0 for a while as well. That is a story that doesn't need to much explanation. Unless the Vine somehow come back. Because when can clearly see in the H.A.R.D Corps preview that the Vine get eradicated. But they could return and have a X-O #0 about the Vine's origins. But I have wanted to see a Bloodshot #0. They could use a Bloodshot #0. Bloodshot is kind of like the movie Memento. It starts out backwards. It really is lost and confused. In my opinion it could use some piecing together.

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tchalla8 wrote:
DrSoup007 wrote:I don't know. Having only read one and two more coming soon. I can't really determine. I would think that's it's smart. Marvel and DC don't that often. And it's one of Valiant's signatures. But really it's different for everyone. Plus, the Bloodshot #0 isn't coming out till late summer.
I also don't want to see and X-O #0 for a while as well. That is a story that doesn't need to much explanation. Unless the Vine somehow come back. Because when can clearly see in the H.A.R.D Corps preview that the Vine get eradicated. But they could return and have a X-O #0 about the Vine's origins. But I have wanted to see a Bloodshot #0. They could use a Bloodshot #0. Bloodshot is kind of like the movie Memento. It starts out backwards. It really is lost and confused. In my opinion it could use some piecing together.

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tchalla8 wrote:
DrSoup007 wrote:I don't know. Having only read one and two more coming soon. I can't really determine. I would think that's it's smart. Marvel and DC don't that often. And it's one of Valiant's signatures. But really it's different for everyone. Plus, the Bloodshot #0 isn't coming out till late summer.
I also don't want to see and X-O #0 for a while as well. That is a story that doesn't need to much explanation. Unless the Vine somehow come back. Because when can clearly see in the H.A.R.D Corps preview that the Vine get eradicated. But they could return and have a X-O #0 about the Vine's origins. But I have wanted to see a Bloodshot #0. They could use a Bloodshot #0. Bloodshot is kind of like the movie Memento. It starts out backwards. It really is lost and confused. In my opinion it could use some piecing together.

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Im enjoying the 0 issues but spacing them out a bit wont have disappointed me much.As long as the books are quality they are coming out that's all that matters to me.
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tchalla8 wrote:
DrSoup007 wrote:I don't know. Having only read one and two more coming soon. I can't really determine. I would think that's it's smart. Marvel and DC don't that often. And it's one of Valiant's signatures. But really it's different for everyone. Plus, the Bloodshot #0 isn't coming out till late summer.
I also don't want to see and X-O #0 for a while as well. That is a story that doesn't need to much explanation. Unless the Vine somehow come back. Because when can clearly see in the H.A.R.D Corps preview that the Vine get eradicated. But they could return and have a X-O #0 about the Vine's origins. But I have wanted to see a Bloodshot #0. They could use a Bloodshot #0. Bloodshot is kind of like the movie Memento. It starts out backwards. It really is lost and confused. In my opinion it could use some piecing together.

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I meant the FCBD book. In the back with the H.A.R.D Corps preview the picture shows a corkboard with pictures tacked on. The one with the picture of the Vine is "X"ed out

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DrSoup007 wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:
DrSoup007 wrote:I don't know. Having only read one and two more coming soon. I can't really determine. I would think that's it's smart. Marvel and DC don't that often. And it's one of Valiant's signatures. But really it's different for everyone. Plus, the Bloodshot #0 isn't coming out till late summer.
I also don't want to see and X-O #0 for a while as well. That is a story that doesn't need to much explanation. Unless the Vine somehow come back. Because when can clearly see in the H.A.R.D Corps preview that the Vine get eradicated. But they could return and have a X-O #0 about the Vine's origins. But I have wanted to see a Bloodshot #0. They could use a Bloodshot #0. Bloodshot is kind of like the movie Memento. It starts out backwards. It really is lost and confused. In my opinion it could use some piecing together.

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I meant the FCBD book. In the back with the H.A.R.D Corps preview the picture shows a corkboard with pictures tacked on. The one with the picture of the Vine is "X"ed out

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Doesn't mean they have been exterminated. I took it to be Commander Trill, and meaning he would not be leading the HARD Corps.
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BugsySig wrote:
DrSoup007 wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:
DrSoup007 wrote:I don't know. Having only read one and two more coming soon. I can't really determine. I would think that's it's smart. Marvel and DC don't that often. And it's one of Valiant's signatures. But really it's different for everyone. Plus, the Bloodshot #0 isn't coming out till late summer.
I also don't want to see and X-O #0 for a while as well. That is a story that doesn't need to much explanation. Unless the Vine somehow come back. Because when can clearly see in the H.A.R.D Corps preview that the Vine get eradicated. But they could return and have a X-O #0 about the Vine's origins. But I have wanted to see a Bloodshot #0. They could use a Bloodshot #0. Bloodshot is kind of like the movie Memento. It starts out backwards. It really is lost and confused. In my opinion it could use some piecing together.

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I meant the FCBD book. In the back with the H.A.R.D Corps preview the picture shows a corkboard with pictures tacked on. The one with the picture of the Vine is "X"ed out

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Doesn't mean they have been exterminated. I took it to be Commander Trill, and meaning he would not be leading the HARD Corps.
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Dr. Solar wrote:Are the stories good?

That's what matters.

So far, the zero issues have been great, and the upcoming ones look really good too.
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tchalla8 wrote: but there's no reason they needed to be told in the publishing chronology they chose
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JustinJordan wrote:
tchalla8 wrote: but there's no reason they needed to be told in the publishing chronology they chose
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#0 is an essential origin/back story issue. I'm not sure why the creators would wait several years to tell that story ... and very clearly every #0 issue fit into the current story arc. Harbinger #0 Harada's origin issue coincides with the Renegade Arc that fleshes out the back story of each of the Renegades. Shadowman #0 shows the backstory of Master Darque which is an essential story to be told to give better perspective of the current arc in which Master Darque is trying to return to Earth after a long Journey - (from Lyceum)? And i'm sure Sandria will now be in the mix in the current arc after her brilliant introduction. And Archer and Armstrong #0 was undoubtedly an essential story for the current arc in which they are trying to make it back to the Faraway! Bloodshot #0 will be a huge turning point leading into Bloodshot HARDCORPS. I'm sure not every answer to Bloodshots origin and backstory will be told

There are going to be more titles and more ZERO issues in the future so just enjoy these great issues right now and look forward to the next set of #0's that we know will come in the future (X-O, EW, RAI, Ninjak, Q&W ...etc)
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I agree as I said in another thread, all of these zero issues have been excellent and real universe building cornerstones.

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If they're all as good as the current #0 issues, I say print one every month. Heck, I'm fine with twice monthly.
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I have been enjoying the 0 issues, so no complaints
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No complaints here

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Well I think the #0s have provided backstory as necessary according to the arc in which they were printed, so I think that that's a perfectly sensible time to publish them, and I'm sure this is exactly what the writers are doing.

There's no way 0s are being published just for the sake of just being 'event' books.
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Every zero issue to date has been outstanding IMO. I have no issue with seeing each title get one when they are as well thought out as they have been thus far.

I must admit to do some serious curiosity about what they might do with an XO zero... Considering we have had a fairly in depth origin for Aric already... :hm:
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grendeljd wrote:Every zero issue to date has been outstanding IMO. I have no issue with seeing each title get one when they are as well thought out as they have been thus far.

I must admit to do some serious curiosity about what they might do with an XO zero... Considering we have had a fairly in depth origin for Aric already... :hm:
Like Shadowman and Harbinger, maybe it'll be more of an origin story for an antagonist, or perhaps something to do with the origin of the Vine? (I don't read X-O so I don't know if that's already been done)
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