Saga

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:21 pm

Chiclo wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
Chiclo wrote:In the spirit of comics moving into other genres, Dynamite had excellent runs on the Lone Ranger and Zorro, particularly with the first volumes of each.
I've heard good things about those, and also the Green Hornet stuff. That was Dynamite as well, I think?
It was Dynamite. There was so much of the Green Hornet stuff, though, which makes it difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. Many of the side-series suffered horribly from publishing delays. The best two were definitely Green Hornet Year One - set in the 30s and penned by Matt Wagner - and Green Hornet Strikes - set in the future, detailing the adventures of a descendant of today's Green Hornet.

OOOO, so basically Wagner did a GH version of his take on Sandman. Cool.

grendeljd · Post by **grendeljd** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:13 pm

In case anyone didn't already know - Saga #7 is coming this week for certain

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:54 am

xodacia81 wrote:
grendeljd wrote:
MarkRoseHFX wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:What does it say about current market/trends in comics when the stories/series we tend to enjoy the most around here are things like Saga, Chew, Fables, Hellboy/BPRD and the like? Superhero books-aside from Valiant-are rarely ever mentioned as "top picks" these days. Have superhero books simply died or are the non-SH titles simply that superior?
Interesting thought. So true. I really love Daredevil and Hawkeye. Other than that I don't go out of my way for any DC or Marvel superhero stuff.
I think the Marvel & DC fare is just getting too bland, overall. And re-boot-y. And 'safe', because uber-huge corporations own the characters and want to perpetually make money from them in other forms of media.

Comics should expand to all other genres with great success, its a unique visual story-telling medium - not a super-hero story-telling medium.
QFT. I cannot remember the last time an all new superhero book got me excited. (VEI's stuff is a relaunch, so doesn't count) It's been a long time. CGW/DHH long, maybe. That's almost 20 years. Two years of reboots and not much else. Ugh

After a decade of renumbering, reboots, and restarts from Marvel and DC I think many comic book readers are fed up with them starting to look elsewhere beyond DC and Marvel for superheroes that reflect a changing world or in the case of many new fans who just aren't interested in super-heroes and want to read other genres like Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Horror, Western, and etc. The constant rebooting, restarting, renumbering, and "big" events that don't amount to much in a year or two I think have turned off a lot of fans and drove fans like me away for the most part.

Now I admit to buying DC's Batwoman and Sword of Sorcery but out 52+ ongoing monthly comics in their line NOTHING else is all that appealing to me now other than Joe Kubert Presets which is a six issue mini-series and The Millenium Trilogy which looks to be a series six hardcover graphic novels based on 3 prose novels and movies.

While I'm buying more Marvel with X-Factor, Captain Marvel, Indestructible Hulk, The Uncanny Avengers, and yes I'm going to give The Superior Spider-Man a chance (even though I get the feeling that I might stick for only be 4-6 issues),the rest of what the Marvel NOW comics aren't very appealing to me especially stuff like All-New X-Men, X-Men: Legacy, The Savage Wolverine, The New Avengers, The Avengers, The Thunderbolts, Captian America, Thor: God of Thunder, the Invincible Iron Man, Young Avengers, Fantastic Four, FF, and Avengers: Arena (a better title would have been The Avengers: The Hunger Games which is really what sounds like to me). Swap all the creators, numbers, and titles around it still doesn't seem like Marvel NOW is working for me anyway.

Then you have companies like Image, Dark Horse, IDW, Boom, Dynamite, and VEI that while each have had (and in the case of VEI will have) their fair share of flops but at least they can try new titles and new ways of telling of lincence franchises with titles like: Saga, The Transformers: Robots in Disguise, Garfield, Archer & Armstrong, The Shadow and many more are out there and these title say that comics can be more about superheroes beating up supervillains. I don't hate super-heroes but superhero comics need some new blood. Maybe these companies can show us some before super-hero comics go the way of the dinosaurs.

over.

carter3175 · Post by **carter3175** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:56 pm

Cyberstrike wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
grendeljd wrote:
MarkRoseHFX wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:What does it say about current market/trends in comics when the stories/series we tend to enjoy the most around here are things like Saga, Chew, Fables, Hellboy/BPRD and the like? Superhero books-aside from Valiant-are rarely ever mentioned as "top picks" these days. Have superhero books simply died or are the non-SH titles simply that superior?
Interesting thought. So true. I really love Daredevil and Hawkeye. Other than that I don't go out of my way for any DC or Marvel superhero stuff.
I think the Marvel & DC fare is just getting too bland, overall. And re-boot-y. And 'safe', because uber-huge corporations own the characters and want to perpetually make money from them in other forms of media.

Comics should expand to all other genres with great success, its a unique visual story-telling medium - not a super-hero story-telling medium.
QFT. I cannot remember the last time an all new superhero book got me excited. (VEI's stuff is a relaunch, so doesn't count) It's been a long time. CGW/DHH long, maybe. That's almost 20 years. Two years of reboots and not much else. Ugh

After a decade of renumbering, reboots, and restarts from Marvel and DC I think many comic book readers are fed up with them starting to look elsewhere beyond DC and Marvel for superheroes that reflect a changing world or in the case of many new fans who just aren't interested in super-heroes and want to read other genres like Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Horror, Western, and etc. The constant rebooting, restarting, renumbering, and "big" events that don't amount to much in a year or two I think have turned off a lot of fans and drove fans like me away for the most part.

Now I admit to buying DC's Batwoman and Sword of Sorcery but out 52+ ongoing monthly comics in their line NOTHING else is all that appealing to me now other than Joe Kubert Presets which is a six issue mini-series and The Millenium Trilogy which looks to be a series six hardcover graphic novels based on 3 prose novels and movies.

While I'm buying more Marvel with X-Factor, Captain Marvel, Indestructible Hulk, The Uncanny Avengers, and yes I'm going to give The Superior Spider-Man a chance (even though I get the feeling that I might stick for only be 4-6 issues),the rest of what the Marvel NOW comics aren't very appealing to me especially stuff like All-New X-Men, X-Men: Legacy, The Savage Wolverine, The New Avengers, The Avengers, The Thunderbolts, Captian America, Thor: God of Thunder, the Invincible Iron Man, Young Avengers, Fantastic Four, FF, and Avengers: Arena (a better title would have been The Avengers: The Hunger Games which is really what sounds like to me). Swap all the creators, numbers, and titles around it still doesn't seem like Marvel NOW is working for me anyway.

Then you have companies like Image, Dark Horse, IDW, Boom, Dynamite, and VEI that while each have had (and in the case of VEI will have) their fair share of flops but at least they can try new titles and new ways of telling of lincence franchises with titles like: Saga, The Transformers: Robots in Disguise, Garfield, Archer & Armstrong, The Shadow and many more are out there and these title say that comics can be more about superheroes beating up supervillains. I don't hate super-heroes but superhero comics need some new blood. Maybe these companies can show us some before super-hero comics go the way of the dinosaurs. over.

Thats deep....I will agree with you though...The reboots are a killer..Out of Marvel and DC the best book between the both of them is Batman!

carter3175 · Post by **carter3175** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:56 pm

BUT I LOVE ME SOME SAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

myron · Post by **myron** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:24 pm

picked up saga 2-7 this last weekend...liked it...like the direction that it seems to be going but it's taking a long tome to flesh out the story...not that that's a bad thing...just kinda slow for someone who usually does TPB's...

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:30 pm

myron wrote:picked up saga 2-7 this last weekend...liked it...like the direction that it seems to be going but it's taking a long tome to flesh out the story...not that that's a bad thing...just kinda slow for someone who usually does TPB's...

I was talking to somebody who said that the slow burn on the early issues reminds them of the slow burn for early issues of Invincible. I don't mind the pace, myself, but if you've gotten used to trades, then I can see where issues might arise.

myron · Post by **myron** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:13 pm

xodacia81 wrote:
myron wrote:picked up saga 2-7 this last weekend...liked it...like the direction that it seems to be going but it's taking a long tome to flesh out the story...not that that's a bad thing...just kinda slow for someone who usually does TPB's...
I was talking to somebody who said that the slow burn on the early issues reminds them of the slow burn for early issues of Invincible. I don't mind the pace, myself, but if you've gotten used to trades, then I can see where issues might arise.

I guess it's not so much the pace...would like to see 4 more pages in each issue...I like the LENGTH of TPB's if not also more content or story

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:18 am

myron wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
myron wrote:picked up saga 2-7 this last weekend...liked it...like the direction that it seems to be going but it's taking a long tome to flesh out the story...not that that's a bad thing...just kinda slow for someone who usually does TPB's...
I was talking to somebody who said that the slow burn on the early issues reminds them of the slow burn for early issues of Invincible. I don't mind the pace, myself, but if you've gotten used to trades, then I can see where issues might arise.
I guess it's not so much the pace...would like to see 4 more pages in each issue...I like the LENGTH of TPB's if not also more content or story

Hmm. So, as I said, you've gotten used to getting more story at once. I have to say, there are some tv shows I like watching all at once, too. I am a bit old school when it comes to comics and while I do love to sit down with a great big pile of a run-run of a pile?-I enjoy getting monthly installments.

carter3175 · Post by **carter3175** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:43 pm

Finally got my Saga 7 Ghost 9.8!

All I need is 8,9,10 at a 9.8 and thats it for this run..the rest will be raw copies.

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:29 pm

carter3175 wrote:Finally got my Saga 7 Ghost 9.8!

All I need is 8,9,10 at a 9.8 and thats it for this run..the rest will be raw copies.

Nice! I didn't realize CGC had a set for it.

caniac · Post by **caniac** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:50 pm

My LCS had 4-7 on the shelves so I said what the heck I'll try it out. This is on gnarly series...it *SQUEE* awesomely crazy. I just need to get 1-3 to see how the story got to #4. It has now become my second title added to my pull list aside from VEI.

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:50 pm

caniac wrote:My LCS had 4-7 on the shelves so I said what the heck I'll try it out. This is on gnarly series...it *SQUEE* awesomely crazy. I just need to get 1-3 to see how the story got to #4. It has now become my second title added to my pull list aside from VEI.

It's good! I know Image has #1 as a dollar book. You should be able to find 2nd prints of 2-3.

caniac · Post by **caniac** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:31 pm

tarheelmarine wrote:
caniac wrote:My LCS had 4-7 on the shelves so I said what the heck I'll try it out. This is on gnarly series...it *SQUEE* awesomely crazy. I just need to get 1-3 to see how the story got to #4. It has now become my second title added to my pull list aside from VEI.
It's good! I know Image has #1 as a dollar book. You should be able to find 2nd prints of 2-3.

Yeah off to ebay...

pixierosa · Post by **pixierosa** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:17 pm

I picked up Cable & the X-Force #1 and liked it (even had a mention of my home state

). I'm enjoying the All-New X-Men series and am looking forward to the Uncanny X-Men #1 coming out soon. X-Men Legacy #1 was fine but is my least favorite of the reboots.

Saga (!) is still my favorite non-Valiant title. Manhattan Projects is enjoyable, too. Completely different flavor and usually provides many unexpected moments.

Sadly, my Buffy jumped the shark a loooong time ago. I've been collecting for old-time's sake, but it's painful. Think I'm going to have to let it go with love.

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:19 pm

pixierosa wrote:
Saga (!) is still my favorite non-Valiant title. Manhattan Projects is enjoyable, too. Completely different flavor and usually provides many unexpected moments.

MP is excellent as well. Saga, MP, Conan, and Valiant are the only monthly books I buy.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:50 pm

tarheelmarine wrote:
pixierosa wrote:
Saga (!) is still my favorite non-Valiant title. Manhattan Projects is enjoyable, too. Completely different flavor and usually provides many unexpected moments.

MP is excellent as well. Saga, MP, Conan, and Valiant are the only monthly books I buy.

Have you tried Chew? It's nifty, but not for everyone.

caniac · Post by **caniac** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:21 pm

xodacia81 wrote:
tarheelmarine wrote:
pixierosa wrote:
Saga (!) is still my favorite non-Valiant title. Manhattan Projects is enjoyable, too. Completely different flavor and usually provides many unexpected moments.

MP is excellent as well. Saga, MP, Conan, and Valiant are the only monthly books I buy.
Have you tried Chew? It's nifty, but not for everyone.

Is Chew still ongoing?

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:27 pm

caniac wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
tarheelmarine wrote:
pixierosa wrote:
Saga (!) is still my favorite non-Valiant title. Manhattan Projects is enjoyable, too. Completely different flavor and usually provides many unexpected moments.

MP is excellent as well. Saga, MP, Conan, and Valiant are the only monthly books I buy.
Have you tried Chew? It's nifty, but not for everyone.
Is Chew still ongoing?

Yep. It goes up to issue #60. #30 just came out.

MarkRoseHFX · Post by **MarkRoseHFX** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:26 pm

I just read the second Chew TPB last night and i'm loving it so far.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:31 pm

MarkRoseHFX wrote:I just read the second Chew TPB last night and i'm loving it so far.

Excellent. It's so unlike anything else out there, no? Great, unusual writing and art, with unique characters and situations/setups. I freaking adore this book and treasure every installment.

MarkRoseHFX · Post by **MarkRoseHFX** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:54 pm

xodacia81 wrote: Excellent. It's so unlike anything else out there, no? Great, unusual writing and art, with unique characters and situations/setups. I freaking adore this book and treasure every installment.

Agreed on all counts so far. It's becoming one of my favorite books to read. I can't wait to see what Showtime does with this as a half hour show. I think that's going to be

EPIC

Chiclo · Post by **Chiclo** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:55 pm

pixierosa wrote:Sadly, my Buffy jumped the shark a loooong time ago. I've been collecting for old-time's sake, but it's painful. Think I'm going to have to let it go with love.

I think if I purge my wife's and my joint pull list, the Buffy books will probably get the axe. I liked Spike and the bugs at first but even that is getting old.

I am sad that they never followed through on the Drusilla mini-series.

tarheelmarine · Post by **tarheelmarine** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:58 pm

xodacia81 wrote:
tarheelmarine wrote:
pixierosa wrote:
Saga (!) is still my favorite non-Valiant title. Manhattan Projects is enjoyable, too. Completely different flavor and usually provides many unexpected moments.

MP is excellent as well. Saga, MP, Conan, and Valiant are the only monthly books I buy.
Have you tried Chew? It's nifty, but not for everyone.

I am going to get the TPB once I have finished a few books that just came in. Thanks for the suggestion.

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:04 pm

tarheelmarine wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
tarheelmarine wrote:
pixierosa wrote:
Saga (!) is still my favorite non-Valiant title. Manhattan Projects is enjoyable, too. Completely different flavor and usually provides many unexpected moments.

MP is excellent as well. Saga, MP, Conan, and Valiant are the only monthly books I buy.
Have you tried Chew? It's nifty, but not for everyone.
I am going to get the TPB once I have finished a few books that just came in. Thanks for the suggestion.

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