Valiant Comics Price Report- Discuss/Document Valiant Prices

[bosco685]

[GGSAE]

So, any Eternal Warrior 1 Gold Flat sales lately folks got beat out on?

So, are you saying you bought that book above? It's funny....I had a 9.4 Flat, that took me quite awhile to sell at for $40, with these sales at $75+, the buyers are really gambling that it's a 9.8.

[bosco685]

So, any Eternal Warrior 1 Gold Flat sales lately folks got beat out on?

So, are you saying you bought that book above? It's funny....I had a 9.4 Flat, that took me quite awhile to sell at for $40, with these sales at $75+, the buyers are really gambling that it's a 9.8.

I mentioned this to bust someone's chops. After I asked a few people on here that I know like to hoard or stock this book up for resale to please let me finally win one, some kind heart then bid against me anyway.

[FormerReader]

Very nice looking copy! Even if it comes back a 9.6 or a 9.4 at worst I still think it is a good deal. There have been consistently selling for $75 for NM copies.

[bosco685]

Thanks Graham. I thought the same thing, and especially beforehand checking the seller's feedback on the previous Eternal Warrior 1 he sold in NM/M. That nailed it for me!

[Aram]

just imagine how some folks thought to themselves, "I'm quitting my job - I'm rich!"

Only if it had been a raw copy. There are longboxes of raw copies.
No one's sitting on a stack of those in slabs... they're not worth the cost of the plastic.

I'd say anything that is dead 9.8 is worth slabing because someone will buy it eventually. Maybe not for alot, but for at least slightly more than cost of the comic and slabbing it. If you aren't sure and have to prescreen then thats another matter.

I think it's lack of true 9.8 condition and the shipping and feebay fees that prevents profit on commons, not the desirability. If VEI continues to gain steam then I can see even commons fetching decent prices in the future.

I would also disagree. As an example that I have seen first hand, I am interested in putting together a Grant Morrison X-men run in CGC 9.8 and for the most part the entire run raw are dollar books. Most of them I purchased were below $20 shipped which essentially 0 profit for the seller or at least a loss. I could see grading books that people are asking for on forums, but not grade them just because they are 9.8's. I am sure there are people on the boards here that are sitting on long boxes of commons waiting to unload. If any do gain steam, the market willl be flooded and the price drove down again.

Also agreed upon a couple points I missed. I think it's just common sense; if I don't care to spend more than a buck on a common, why would I spend the $30+ (slabbed book plus shipping), for a premium of 3000% just because it's labelled 9.8? Just like there's comics that aren't worth the cost of shipping (in some instances), there's a lot of comics that aren't worth the cost of slabbing. We should start a thread about this.... debating what's worth slabbing in Valiant (I think there's probably only 10-15 or so definite books to be slabbed, the rest fall within a scale depending on condition/book).

I think you underestimate how many true 9.8s are out there after 2 decades. You probably have a better shot at finding pre unity in a quarter bin than finding a true 9.8 even a common in a lcs.

[Chiclo]

You probably have a better shot at finding pre unity in a quarter bin than finding a true 9.8 even a common in a lcs.

If you can track down a proper quarter bin, you probably could dig some pre-Unity out of it.

[tchalla8]

You probably have a better shot at finding pre unity in a quarter bin than finding a true 9.8 even a common in a lcs.

If you can track down a proper quarter bin, you probably could dig some pre-Unity out of it.

Just finding an LCS with back issues is hard enough. Quarter bins are practically extinct.

[Chiclo]

You probably have a better shot at finding pre unity in a quarter bin than finding a true 9.8 even a common in a lcs.

If you can track down a proper quarter bin, you probably could dig some pre-Unity out of it.

Just finding an LCS with back issues is hard enough. Quarter bins are practically extinct.

If you ever are in Amarillo, check out Big Apple Comics. Rows and rows and rows of back issues but no quarter bins.

[bosco685]

Very nice looking copy! Even if it comes back a 9.6 or a 9.4 at worst I still think it is a good deal. There have been consistently selling for $75 for NM copies.

It was - until someone asked the seller to take a picture of the inside of the book, which he kindly did. Unfortunately, he hyperextended the cover to take the photo and the "Valiant spine split" occurred that I have seen on Archer & Armstrong 0 Gold, Eternal Warrior 1 Gold, and a few other variants.

[FormerReader]

Oh *SQUEE*! That really sucks Nick.

[bosco685]

Thanks Graham. And the shame is, the rest of the book is simply gorgeous. Why someone needed a photo of the center of the book, I just don't know. But why to even hyperextend a NM-M book to take the photo is even sadder.

[GGSAE]

just imagine how some folks thought to themselves, "I'm quitting my job - I'm rich!"

Only if it had been a raw copy. There are longboxes of raw copies.
No one's sitting on a stack of those in slabs... they're not worth the cost of the plastic.

I'd say anything that is dead 9.8 is worth slabing because someone will buy it eventually. Maybe not for alot, but for at least slightly more than cost of the comic and slabbing it. If you aren't sure and have to prescreen then thats another matter.

I think it's lack of true 9.8 condition and the shipping and feebay fees that prevents profit on commons, not the desirability. If VEI continues to gain steam then I can see even commons fetching decent prices in the future.

I would also disagree. As an example that I have seen first hand, I am interested in putting together a Grant Morrison X-men run in CGC 9.8 and for the most part the entire run raw are dollar books. Most of them I purchased were below $20 shipped which essentially 0 profit for the seller or at least a loss. I could see grading books that people are asking for on forums, but not grade them just because they are 9.8's. I am sure there are people on the boards here that are sitting on long boxes of commons waiting to unload. If any do gain steam, the market willl be flooded and the price drove down again.

Also agreed upon a couple points I missed. I think it's just common sense; if I don't care to spend more than a buck on a common, why would I spend the $30+ (slabbed book plus shipping), for a premium of 3000% just because it's labelled 9.8? Just like there's comics that aren't worth the cost of shipping (in some instances), there's a lot of comics that aren't worth the cost of slabbing. We should start a thread about this.... debating what's worth slabbing in Valiant (I think there's probably only 10-15 or so definite books to be slabbed, the rest fall within a scale depending on condition/book).

I think you underestimate how many true 9.8s are out there after 2 decades. You probably have a better shot at finding pre unity in a quarter bin than finding a true 9.8 even a common in a lcs.

Ya but who cares? You're missing the big point, that there is substantial cost to slabbing lots of common books, and if you can't sell 'em - when it was proved here by a large collector unloading his books - the sum is a significant loss.

[400yrs]

Only if it had been a raw copy. There are longboxes of raw copies.
No one's sitting on a stack of those in slabs... they're not worth the cost of the plastic.

I'd say anything that is dead 9.8 is worth slabing because someone will buy it eventually. Maybe not for alot, but for at least slightly more than cost of the comic and slabbing it. If you aren't sure and have to prescreen then thats another matter.

I think it's lack of true 9.8 condition and the shipping and feebay fees that prevents profit on commons, not the desirability. If VEI continues to gain steam then I can see even commons fetching decent prices in the future.

I would also disagree. As an example that I have seen first hand, I am interested in putting together a Grant Morrison X-men run in CGC 9.8 and for the most part the entire run raw are dollar books. Most of them I purchased were below $20 shipped which essentially 0 profit for the seller or at least a loss. I could see grading books that people are asking for on forums, but not grade them just because they are 9.8's. I am sure there are people on the boards here that are sitting on long boxes of commons waiting to unload. If any do gain steam, the market willl be flooded and the price drove down again.

Also agreed upon a couple points I missed. I think it's just common sense; if I don't care to spend more than a buck on a common, why would I spend the $30+ (slabbed book plus shipping), for a premium of 3000% just because it's labelled 9.8? Just like there's comics that aren't worth the cost of shipping (in some instances), there's a lot of comics that aren't worth the cost of slabbing. We should start a thread about this.... debating what's worth slabbing in Valiant (I think there's probably only 10-15 or so definite books to be slabbed, the rest fall within a scale depending on condition/book).

I think you underestimate how many true 9.8s are out there after 2 decades. You probably have a better shot at finding pre unity in a quarter bin than finding a true 9.8 even a common in a lcs.

Ya but who cares? You're missing the big point, that there is substantial cost to slabbing lots of common books, and if you can't sell 'em - when it was proved here by a large collector unloading his books - the sum is a significant loss.

Yep. That was depressing to see how much of a bath he took on those books.

If we are talking about a common book like Shadowman #8, then yeah, slab away. If we are talking about Hard Corps #26, you are looking for that one crazy person, if any who is looking for a full run slabbed in 9.8 and you are hoping he doesn't already have it. Otherwise, you are sitting on that crappy book for who knows how long.

[ckb]

Yep. That was depressing to see how much of a bath he took on those books.

If we are talking about a common book like Shadowman #8, then yeah, slab away. If we are talking about Hard Corps #26, you are looking for that one crazy person, if any who is looking for a full run slabbed in 9.8 and you are hoping he doesn't already have it. Otherwise, you are sitting on that crappy book for who knows how long.

I don't think I'm aware of a the "bath" you are talking about. When/where did that happen? Just curious.

Even a crazy luntic like me is barely willing to pay $30-$35 postage paid for commons I need for my set. Slabbing them to sell is not worth it. But I encourage everone who wants to sell me slabbed 9.8s to look at the master set for holes and go ahead and fill them. I will buy.

[greg]

Yep. That was depressing to see how much of a bath he took on those books.

I don't think I'm aware of a the "bath" you are talking about. When/where did that happen? Just curious.

August 2008, I believe... a bunch of Valiant common slabs sold on Ebay for around $4 to $12 each.
GPAnalysis shows them, can't really remember how many or which ones.

[GGSAE]

Yep. That was depressing to see how much of a bath he took on those books.

I don't think I'm aware of a the "bath" you are talking about. When/where did that happen? Just curious.

August 2008, I believe... a bunch of Valiant common slabs sold on Ebay for around $4 to $12 each.
GPAnalysis shows them, can't really remember how many or which ones.

I thought some of them sold for .99 cents (the opening bid).

[magnusr]

Yep. That was depressing to see how much of a bath he took on those books.

I don't think I'm aware of a the "bath" you are talking about. When/where did that happen? Just curious.

August 2008, I believe... a bunch of Valiant common slabs sold on Ebay for around $4 to $12 each.
GPAnalysis shows them, can't really remember how many or which ones.

Are we talking about Showcase New England or something here? I did pick up a notable number of Magnus commons from them plus some less common also.

/Magnus

[400yrs]

I could've sworn there was a member or a valiant collector who was trying to put together everything and then gave up and sold them for pennies on the dollar. Could be "misremembering" though.

[GGSAE]

I could've sworn there was a member or a valiant collector who was trying to put together everything and then gave up and sold them for pennies on the dollar. Could be "misremembering" though.

No, that's who we're thinking of. I remember him selling 9.8 slabs, some for less than a buck a piece...

[bosco685]

I could've sworn there was a member or a valiant collector who was trying to put together everything and then gave up and sold them for pennies on the dollar. Could be "misremembering" though.

No, that's who we're thinking of. I remember him selling 9.8 slabs, some for less than a buck a piece...

Good Lord!

That would be a painful experience to go through as even with the best dealer discount the previous year (20% off), slabbing alone was around $14 per book. Then when you factor in the cost of shipping both ways (to CGC and back) AND the cost of each high-grade book example, something like that would shut down your average comic store.

[GGSAE]

I could've sworn there was a member or a valiant collector who was trying to put together everything and then gave up and sold them for pennies on the dollar. Could be "misremembering" though.

No, that's who we're thinking of. I remember him selling 9.8 slabs, some for less than a buck a piece...

Good Lord!

That would be a painful experience to go through as even with the best dealer discount the previous year (20% off), slabbing alone was around $14 per book. Then when you factor in the cost of shipping both ways (to CGC and back) AND the cost of each high-grade book example, something like that would shut down your average comic store.

He wasn't a dealer, just one of the 'bigger' collectors on this board. He was putting together a 9.8 common run, and it was impressive. I don't know why he decided to sell, but he basically dumped them all at once, and the demand was so sparse a lot of books didn't even get sold the first time around at the opening bid of 99 cents. I know some of the guys here helped him out with some bids because he really is a nice guy (and even at that many books only sold for a few bucks a piece), but the fact of the matter is no one wanted them, and he didn't have much choice in terms of asking price. I know this has been discussed on the CGC boards, but slabbing a book just for the sake because it's in high grade doesn't always make sense.

[bosco685]

Oh, I have to agree.

You have a few sellers on the Collectors Society that closely watch the registry awards participants. If they pick up on someone that is trying to complete a run of a series, that is one of the few times you will sell these books for a decent price. Some have even offered a pre-submission service where they will find a given high-grade example for any common book, but only if someone commits to buying it in advance.

But just submitting any book can be an expensive game when you look at how CGC discounts have gone down, and prices have gone up slightly.

[Rubiks-Q-Bert]

Oh, I have to agree.

You have a few sellers on the Collectors Society that closely watch the registry awards participants. If they pick up on someone that is trying to complete a run of a series, that is one of the few times you will sell these books for a decent price. Some have even offered a pre-submission service where they will find a given high-grade example for any common book, but only if someone commits to buying it in advance.

But just submitting any book can be an expensive game when you look at how CGC discounts have gone down, and prices have gone up slightly.

Look up the top Deathmate set.

http://coins.www.collectors-society.com ... etID=13510" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Best set ever.

[bosco685]

Deathmate

Will recycle centers process the paper from these books, or do their eyes burn too when they read these?