A new story angle I haven't seen mentioned...

[jmatt]

The Vine didn't create the armor and they appear to know little about it.

That means that somewhere out there is a civilization that did create it. Possibilities abound.

[etos45]

The Vine didn't create the armor and they appear to know little about it.

That means that somewhere out there, somewhere, is a civilization that did create it. Possibilities abound.

The Spider Aliens aren't dead after all....

[Sven]

No, we just misplaced the blueprints

[geocarr]

No, we just misplaced the blueprints

OMG!! ROTFLMAO!!

[greg]

The Vine didn't create the armor and they appear to know little about it.

That means that somewhere out there, is a civilization that did create it. Possibilities abound.

I don't think the original Valiant stories had the Spider Aliens as the creators... as far as we know, they were only "users".

[etos45]

The Vine didn't create the armor and they appear to know little about it.

That means that somewhere out there, is a civilization that did create it. Possibilities abound.

I don't think the original Valiant stories had the Spider Aliens as the creators... as far as we know, they were only "users".

Hm, I was always under the impression that they made (or grew) them because they had so many different classes of armor. If they didn't, then I guess that opens Valiant up to a new story they can tell.

[BugsySig]

The Vine didn't create the armor and they appear to know little about it.

That means that somewhere out there, is a civilization that did create it. Possibilities abound.

I don't think the original Valiant stories had the Spider Aliens as the creators... as far as we know, they were only "users".

Hm, I was always under the impression that they made (or grew) them because they had so many different classes of armor. If they didn't, then I guess that opens Valiant up to a new story they can tell.

Yeah, XO #0 shows them waiting for shanhara as though it was a fruit falling from tree, then returning to their home (?) world with it. I always got the impression they were grown over thousands of years and had different types like there are types of apples or grapes.

[Paradigm38]

Kind of a Phyrexian (sorry, Fanboys!) kinda deal... interesting...

[jmatt]

Yeah, XO #0 shows them waiting for shanhara as though it was a fruit falling from tree, then returning to their home (?) world with it. I always got the impression they were grown over thousands of years and had different types like there are types of apples or grapes.

True for VH1 but we don't know what the new storyline holds.

I would think that if the Vine knew anything about the armor, we wouldn't see the security captain claiming it was a fraud the clergy maintain to keep the troops in line. With that in mind, I don't think they've ever seen an X-O class entity in action.

[xodacia81]

The Vine didn't create the armor and they appear to know little about it.

That means that somewhere out there, is a civilization that did create it. Possibilities abound.

I don't think the original Valiant stories had the Spider Aliens as the creators... as far as we know, they were only "users".

Hm, I was always under the impression that they made (or grew) them because they had so many different classes of armor. If they didn't, then I guess that opens Valiant up to a new story they can tell.

My take away was always that they were more or less the ones that learned how to develop and unlock the power of the seeds. I don't think they created it, but they at the very least recognized, if not helped it along after they discovered what it could do.

Yeah, XO #0 shows them waiting for shanhara as though it was a fruit falling from tree, then returning to their home (?) world with it. I always got the impression they were grown over thousands of years and had different types like there are types of apples or grapes.

[zoso20]

The Vine didn't create the armor and they appear to know little about it.

That means that somewhere out there, is a civilization that did create it. Possibilities abound.

I don't think the original Valiant stories had the Spider Aliens as the creators... as far as we know, they were only "users".

Go take a peek at the first couple of pages of the X-O Database..........it lays out how they made it........

[greg]

Go take a peek at the first couple of pages of the X-O Database..........it lays out how they made it........

That thing kind of reads like Axe Cop.

[zoso20]

Go take a peek at the first couple of pages of the X-O Database..........it lays out how they made it........

That thing kind of reads like Axe Cop.

I used to love the tech manuals like that one and ones they did for Iron Man and other tech heroes/villians............guess thats why it stuck in my head........ Axe Cop

[grendeljd]

The Vine didn't create the armor and they appear to know little about it.

That means that somewhere out there, is a civilization that did create it. Possibilities abound.

I don't think the original Valiant stories had the Spider Aliens as the creators... as far as we know, they were only "users".

I like your line of thinking, jmatt. Another species out there? Coolness.

The Vine definitely appear to be worshippers, not creators... however, they may have created the thing so long ago that they've forgotten how to do it... or it could still retain some similarity to the VH1 concept, where it 'grows' a new one every 2000 years or so [timed conveniently for the story in 11-13]. If it has been around 2000 years since the VEI x-o came along, it makes sense that it could have become a cult of worship...

I do love The Vine so far, just read an interview with Venditti where he mentions spending a lot of time revising the old Spider Aliens into The Vine... but that also doesn't mean there can't be other aliens too.

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I'm also vaguely recalling that somewhere in the VH1 X-O #1, #2, or #3 the spider aliens have some dialogue about the x-o suit as if they created it...

[zoso20]

The Vine didn't create the armor and they appear to know little about it.

That means that somewhere out there, is a civilization that did create it. Possibilities abound.

I don't think the original Valiant stories had the Spider Aliens as the creators... as far as we know, they were only "users".

I like your line of thinking, jmatt. Another species out there? Coolness.

The Vine definitely appear to be worshippers, not creators... however, they may have created the thing so long ago that they've forgotten how to do it... or it could still retain some similarity to the VH1 concept, where it 'grows' a new one every 2000 years or so [timed conveniently for the story in 11-13]. If it has been around 2000 years since the VEI x-o came along, it makes sense that it could have become a cult of worship...

I do love The Vine so far, just read an interview with Venditti where he mentions spending a lot of time revising the old Spider Aliens into The Vine... but that also doesn't mean there can't be other aliens too.

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I'm also vaguely recalling that somewhere in the VH1 X-O #1, #2, or #3 the spider aliens have some dialogue about the x-o suit as if they created it...

The X-O Database issue that came with the TPB details the creation of the armor by the Spider-Aliens.....

Ah......here..... this is the exact text from the Database........case closed....

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[jmatt]

Ah......here..... this is the exact text from the Database........case closed....

We're not debating where the armor came from in 1992. Everyone knows that from X-O #0. We're just speculating about what may lay ahead in the current version. I sincerely hope it doesn't follow what came before.

Gimme new!

[Ross2]

The Vine didn't create the armor and they appear to know little about it.

That means that somewhere out there is a civilization that did create it. Possibilities abound.

Could it be the Psi-Lords from the future?

[xodacia81]

Only the Shadow knows for sure....

[Brother Darque]

it was built by the engineers.

[grendeljd]

it was built by the engineers.

Oh god. Don't even start that

[Brother Darque]

it was built by the engineers.

Oh god. Don't even start that

it was an invitation.

[Xtianhardy]

Go take a peek at the first couple of pages of the X-O Database..........it lays out how they made it........

That thing kind of reads like Axe Cop.

I used to love the tech manuals like that one and ones they did for Iron Man and other tech heroes/villians............guess thats why it stuck in my head........ Axe Cop

My favorite part of the X-O tech manual are the see-through overlays in the middle of the book detailing the layers of the armor. I wish there were more special issues with neat stuff like that in modern superhero/tech books. Very cool.

[jmatt]

Go take a peek at the first couple of pages of the X-O Database..........it lays out how they made it........

That thing kind of reads like Axe Cop.

I used to love the tech manuals like that one and ones they did for Iron Man and other tech heroes/villians............guess thats why it stuck in my head........ Axe Cop

My favorite part of the X-O tech manual are the see-through overlays in the middle of the book detailing the layers of the armor. I wish there were more special issues with neat stuff like that in modern superhero/tech books. Very cool.

Ditto. That was a cool aspect.

[Brother Darque]

it was made by The Space Monoliths!!!!

[The Dirt Gang]

Could the XO Armor come from the same place as The Boon in A&A#1? The Faraway?