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OK, I've read the book. Really enjoyed it. Buy can someone tell me what the second to last panel of the book is supposed to be after the big splash panel? The smaller one. Is that a hand? With a ring or something? I can't figure out what that panel is supposed to be.
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I wondered the same thing. Sorta looks like a button being pushed. HAS to be important.
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It looks like the dogs foot to me.
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Could have been a little more clear.

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depluto wrote:Could have been a little more clear.

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It sort of speaks to my one issue with the book. Panels of artistic excellence followed up by panels of muddiness. Fortunately, that's correctable.
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It took me a minute to even guess what it was, but I'm thinking Pete's toe on the pill Joe spit out earlier. He was sitting by the pool at the time, and it looks to be the same color. Could have been the dog's paw on the pill too.
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Pill. Makes sense.
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dbngaa wrote:It took me a minute to even guess what it was, but I'm thinking Pete's toe on the pill Joe spit out earlier. He was sitting by the pool at the time, and it looks to be the same color. Could have been the dog's paw on the pill too.
Good call! :thumb:

After you said that, it does look like Pete's foot stepping on the pill. For some reason I thought it was somebody pressing a blue button to call in the troops.

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etos45 wrote:
dbngaa wrote:It took me a minute to even guess what it was, but I'm thinking Pete's toe on the pill Joe spit out earlier. He was sitting by the pool at the time, and it looks to be the same color. Could have been the dog's paw on the pill too.
Good call! :thumb:

After you said that, it does look like Pete's foot stepping on the pill. For some reason I thought it was somebody pressing a blue button to call in the troops.
OK, if that's the pill, then what's the significance of that panel? Maybe I need to re-read with new context.
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dbngaa wrote:It took me a minute to even guess what it was, but I'm thinking Pete's toe on the pill Joe spit out earlier. He was sitting by the pool at the time, and it looks to be the same color. Could have been the dog's paw on the pill too.
Good call! :thumb:

After you said that, it does look like Pete's foot stepping on the pill. For some reason I thought it was somebody pressing a blue button to call in the troops.
OK, if that's the pill, then what's the significance of that panel? Maybe I need to re-read with new context.
It was Joe not taking the pill that led to all the events after. I guess they figure it was a way of bringing that point home.

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I had to take a second look at that too. At least reading the digital version allowed me to zoom in.

Definitely the dogs paw stepping on the pill Joe had spit out earlier.
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BugsySig wrote:I had to take a second look at that too. At least reading the digital version allowed me to zoom in.

Definitely the dogs paw stepping on the pill Joe had spit out earlier.
Do you think Harada used some form of mind control to make him spit it out and now he was covering his tracks?

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etos45 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:I had to take a second look at that too. At least reading the digital version allowed me to zoom in.

Definitely the dogs paw stepping on the pill Joe had spit out earlier.
Do you think Harada used some form of mind control to make him spit it out and now he was covering his tracks?
You can't tell if it is deliberate or accidental just from the one panel, so no way of knowing. Given there is a SWAT team bearing down on Pete, I doubt he would ever have noticed the pill.

Perhaps it is more representative of Harada breaking Pete of his self medicating habits?
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BugsySig wrote:
etos45 wrote:
BugsySig wrote:I had to take a second look at that too. At least reading the digital version allowed me to zoom in.

Definitely the dogs paw stepping on the pill Joe had spit out earlier.
Do you think Harada used some form of mind control to make him spit it out and now he was covering his tracks?
You can't tell if it is deliberate or accidental just from the one panel, so no way of knowing. Given there is a SWAT team bearing down on Pete, I doubt he would ever have noticed the pill.

Perhaps it is more representative of Harada breaking Pete of his self medicating habits?
Or it could be representative of Harada manipulating events (Kind of the same thing, but more ominous).

I don't think it was Harada covering his tracks, because Stancheck would be able to see through that, unless Harada continuously focuses on partially blocking Pete's friend's mind so that Pete is unable to sense his friend's off the medication (He was able to sense it, earlier in the issue, because of his friend's chaotic thought patterns).

Then again, Harada could be affecting Stancheck's mind, to a limited degree, already, and moving the pill would cover that particular track.

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BugsySig wrote:I had to take a second look at that too. At least reading the digital version allowed me to zoom in.

Definitely the dogs paw stepping on the pill Joe had spit out earlier.
Just got the digital version and I don't think it's the dog. Zoom in and you can see the toe nail. I don't know a lot about dogs, but they don't have nails like that, right?

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I thought it was Pete's fist punching the pill Joe spit out into the ground.

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Blood of Heroes wrote:I thought it was Pete's fist punching the pill Joe spit out into the ground.

Pretty sure it's a foot. That looks like a big toe in the front.

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you can see little shards of pill coming off of it. Some amount of force is being applied to it.

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etos45 wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:I thought it was Pete's fist punching the pill Joe spit out into the ground.

Pretty sure it's a foot. That looks like a big toe in the front.

I can kinda of see that now.

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Blood of Heroes wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:I thought it was Pete's fist punching the pill Joe spit out into the ground.

Pretty sure it's a foot. That looks like a big toe in the front.

I can kinda of see that now.
I think we can call this a failed panel. But 1 out of 100 ain't bad.
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tchalla8 wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:I thought it was Pete's fist punching the pill Joe spit out into the ground.

Pretty sure it's a foot. That looks like a big toe in the front.

I can kinda of see that now.
I think we can call this a failed panel. But 1 out of 100 ain't bad.
I wouldn't call it a failed panel at all...just look at the discussion it's bringing.
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myron wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:I thought it was Pete's fist punching the pill Joe spit out into the ground.

Pretty sure it's a foot. That looks like a big toe in the front.

I can kinda of see that now.
I think we can call this a failed panel. But 1 out of 100 ain't bad.
I wouldn't call it a failed panel at all...just look at the discussion it's bringing.
yeah, we we still don't have a consensus on what it is...and even more important to me...what its for...
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tchalla8 wrote:
myron wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:I thought it was Pete's fist punching the pill Joe spit out into the ground.

Pretty sure it's a foot. That looks like a big toe in the front.

I can kinda of see that now.
I think we can call this a failed panel. But 1 out of 100 ain't bad.
I wouldn't call it a failed panel at all...just look at the discussion it's bringing.
yeah, we we still don't have a consensus on what it is...and even more important to me...what its for...
Absolutely. There is a reason it is SO close to the end.
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kevinbastos wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:
myron wrote:
tchalla8 wrote:
Blood of Heroes wrote:
etos45 wrote:
Pretty sure it's a foot. That looks like a big toe in the front.

I can kinda of see that now.
I think we can call this a failed panel. But 1 out of 100 ain't bad.
I wouldn't call it a failed panel at all...just look at the discussion it's bringing.
yeah, we we still don't have a consensus on what it is...and even more important to me...what its for...
Absolutely. There is a reason it is SO close to the end.
This I agree with, but again, the reason is unclear. It is either a summation of the issue in a way OR an ominous symbol of Harada's influence. Either way, it has sparked more debate than I am sure either Dysart or Evans could have imagined. :D
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I forget what waiting a month to the next issue was like.

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