Archer & Armstrong!

Discuss the VALIANT comics, characters, and collecting.
PLEASE DO NOT REVEAL SPOILER INFORMATION IN YOUR TOPIC TITLE.

Moderators: Daniel Jackson, greg

User avatar
Lightning Strike
Silent from '04 to '07, then he strikes!
Silent from '04 to '07, then he strikes!
Posts: 8008
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:58:43 pm
Location: Physically: USA---Spiritually: Ireland
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by Lightning Strike »

BruceReville wrote:Why does Armstrong look like a fatter Kevin Smith?
:lol:

User avatar
dino
Nerd Boss
Nerd Boss
Posts: 3875
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:14:07 am
Valiant fan since: 1993
Location: Los Angeles
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by dino »

400yrs wrote:
dino wrote:
orbitalshift wrote:Ugh!

As someone who loved the original Archer and Armstrong, I gotta say this makes my stomach turn.

It's so far off the mark, I am astonished they released this.

Everything else has been so top notch, then follow up with this. I have no idea what they are thinking but this is nothing even close to the look or feel Archer and Armstrong should have.

Just my opinion.

This is not the book I was hoping for.
Patience. After everything you've seen so far, still no faith? Trust me, this one rocks.

Any idea when we might find out the teams or at least who did the art on these teasers?

All the logos have been perfect, btw.



This A&A is very different from the other images, but I love the line art. Almost looks like Ricardo Burcelli. It may sound weird, but seeing that image, I could see Brian Wood writing this book.
There is one more day left in the week.

Teasers are by:
X-O Manowar - Jelena Kevic Djurdjevic
Harbinger - Doug Braithwaite
Bloodshot - :twisted:
Archer & Armstrong - David Aja

Glad you like the logos! Makes all the work on them worth it!!
Last edited by dino on Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:36:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

deathmedal
100 posts! (if you round to the nearest 100)
100 posts! (if you round to the nearest 100)
Posts: 69
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:08:38 pm
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by deathmedal »

Hhhmmmmm. Not a big fan of the art here at all. It's very hard to forget what BWS gave us first time around. A and A should have better

User avatar
Dr. Solar
Spanked like a 4 year old in K-Mart.
Spanked like a 4 year old in K-Mart.
Posts: 10898
Joined: Sat May 15, 2004 8:09:27 pm
Favorite character: Sven
Favorite title: Psi-Lords #2
Location: Los Angeles Surviving Sectors
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by Dr. Solar »

I really dig the art on the A&A. It captures the washed up, don't-really-have-it-all-togetherness that I would expect from Archer & Armstrong. They're not the JLA with satellites and planes and stuff, they look like they are waiting for the bus, or trying to figure out where to crash for the night.
Image

User avatar
etos45
I live to be inefficient!
I live to be inefficient!
Posts: 4145
Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:41:32 pm
Location: Anywhere but here... nope, there I am.
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by etos45 »

dino wrote:Archer & Armstrong - David Aja
I am officially convinced... David Aja is my favorite artist in the world. Everything he has done for y'all are my favorite versions.

User avatar
Lightning Strike
Silent from '04 to '07, then he strikes!
Silent from '04 to '07, then he strikes!
Posts: 8008
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:58:43 pm
Location: Physically: USA---Spiritually: Ireland
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by Lightning Strike »

Jay Tomio wrote:David Aja! No wonder why it's awesome - he's one of the best.
+1 :thumb:

User avatar
Elveen
I sell comics, I collect Valiant.
I sell comics, I collect Valiant.
Posts: 25252
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:44:48 am
Location: Educating the future of America, or something like that
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by Elveen »

I'm glad the A&A teaser art is different than the other 3, it need to be a different book. I love the feel of it.

User avatar
leonmallett
My mind is sharp. Like a sharp thing.
My mind is sharp. Like a sharp thing.
Posts: 9444
Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:39:01 am
Valiant fan since: 2006
Favorite character: Shadowman (Hall version)
Favorite title: Shadowman (under Hall)
Favorite writer: Fred Van Lente
Favorite artist: Clayton Henry
Location: hunting down paulsmith56 somewhere in the balti belt...
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by leonmallett »

I loved Aja's art on Immortal iron Fist. Nice choice of artist, and I think he could fit these characters well. I hope he is doing interiors, but whether that is a hope too far, I don't know obviously.

The fact is there is only one BWS type artist, and that is the man himself, so maybe it is better to try something distinctive in a contrasting way, like this.
VEI - I look forward to you one day publishing MORE than 9-10 books per month

User avatar
caniac
the hole just keeps getting deeper
the hole just keeps getting deeper
Posts: 3688
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:41:24 pm
Valiant fan since: 1992
Favorite character: XO Manowar
Favorite title: XO Manowar
Favorite writer: Robert Venditti
Location: the beach
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by caniac »

:clap: I love it!!!
Image

User avatar
MarrowMan
Clinkin' bottles with Aram
Clinkin' bottles with Aram
Posts: 2993
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:21:01 am
Valiant fan since: 1991
Favorite character: ShadowMan
Favorite title: ShadowMan
Favorite writer: Dysart, Jordan
Location: Toronto Canada
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by MarrowMan »

So Fred Van Lente is writing and and Clayton Henry is on art. Awesome!
Image

User avatar
greg
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
Posts: 22861
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:39:27 am
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
Location: Indoors
Contact:
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by greg »

From the USA Today article:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/sto ... 53421880/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Obadiah Archer is the greatest martial artist in the Valiant Universe and an 18-year-old guy raised by The Sect, an extremely powerful conspiracy that secretly runs the world. Armstrong is the man Archer's sent after to kill in God's name to stop the end of the world, and he happens to be a hard-drinking, 10,000-year-old immortal cynic.

This unlikely pair of new best friends teams up in Van Lente's Archer & Armstrong to scour the globe for an ancient doomsday device to keep it from bringing on the same cataclysm that destroyed civilization eons ago."

User avatar
myron
I do embrace my inner geekdom
I do embrace my inner geekdom
Posts: 16279
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:37:59 am
Valiant fan since: 1991
Favorite character: Gilad
Favorite title: Pre-Unity Harbinger
Location: watertown, wi
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by myron »

greg wrote:From the USA Today article:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/sto ... 53421880/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Obadiah Archer is the greatest martial artist in the Valiant Universe and an 18-year-old guy raised by The Sect, an extremely powerful conspiracy that secretly runs the world. Armstrong is the man Archer's sent after to kill in God's name to stop the end of the world, and he happens to be a hard-drinking, 10,000-year-old immortal cynic.

This unlikely pair of new best friends teams up in Van Lente's Archer & Armstrong to scour the globe for an ancient doomsday device to keep it from bringing on the same cataclysm that destroyed civilization eons ago."
interesting
Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?

User avatar
Daniel Jackson
A toast to the return of Valiant!
A toast to the return of Valiant!
Posts: 38007
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:33:38 pm
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by Daniel Jackson »

myron wrote:
greg wrote:From the USA Today article:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/sto ... 53421880/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Obadiah Archer is the greatest martial artist in the Valiant Universe and an 18-year-old guy raised by The Sect, an extremely powerful conspiracy that secretly runs the world. Armstrong is the man Archer's sent after to kill in God's name to stop the end of the world, and he happens to be a hard-drinking, 10,000-year-old immortal cynic.

This unlikely pair of new best friends teams up in Van Lente's Archer & Armstrong to scour the globe for an ancient doomsday device to keep it from bringing on the same cataclysm that destroyed civilization eons ago."
interesting
Very nice touch with the ancient doomsday device scenerio. Me likey.

User avatar
greg
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
Posts: 22861
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:39:27 am
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
Location: Indoors
Contact:
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by greg »

Daniel Jackson wrote:
myron wrote:
greg wrote:From the USA Today article:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/sto ... 53421880/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Obadiah Archer is the greatest martial artist in the Valiant Universe and an 18-year-old guy raised by The Sect, an extremely powerful conspiracy that secretly runs the world. Armstrong is the man Archer's sent after to kill in God's name to stop the end of the world, and he happens to be a hard-drinking, 10,000-year-old immortal cynic.

This unlikely pair of new best friends teams up in Van Lente's Archer & Armstrong to scour the globe for an ancient doomsday device to keep it from bringing on the same cataclysm that destroyed civilization eons ago."
interesting
Very nice touch with the ancient doomsday device scenerio. Me likey.
A tie-in to December 2012, or will that be too soon to resolve that storyline? :hm:

User avatar
jedimarley
Evra'Ting Ire Mon.
Evra'Ting Ire Mon.
Posts: 16063
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:44:29 pm
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by jedimarley »

greg wrote:From the USA Today article:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/sto ... 53421880/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Obadiah Archer is the greatest martial artist in the Valiant Universe and an 18-year-old guy raised by The Sect, an extremely powerful conspiracy that secretly runs the world. Armstrong is the man Archer's sent after to kill in God's name to stop the end of the world, and he happens to be a hard-drinking, 10,000-year-old immortal cynic.

This unlikely pair of new best friends teams up in Van Lente's Archer & Armstrong to scour the globe for an ancient doomsday device to keep it from bringing on the same cataclysm that destroyed civilization eons ago."
Love the new twist on Archer. :thumb:

User avatar
Crow331
Clinkin' bottles with Aram
Clinkin' bottles with Aram
Posts: 2501
Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:02:54 pm
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by Crow331 »

I think Archer and Armstrong sounds interesting :thumb: I like the Doomsday idea. Sounds like all the heroes will come together at the end to save the world from the Doomsday device and it will probably introduce a few new characters who also come to the heroes aid like a certain cajun crimefighter :twisted:

User avatar
greg
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
Posts: 22861
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:39:27 am
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
Location: Indoors
Contact:
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by greg »

Crow331 wrote:a certain cajun crimefighter :twisted:
Gambit? :hm:

User avatar
etos45
I live to be inefficient!
I live to be inefficient!
Posts: 4145
Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:41:32 pm
Location: Anywhere but here... nope, there I am.
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by etos45 »

It says in the USA Today article that Fred Van Lente did Amazing Spider-man, but there's no mention of that in his Wiki bibliography... anyone know what issues he did? It seems like the style of Spider-man would fit well with A&A.

User avatar
MarrowMan
Clinkin' bottles with Aram
Clinkin' bottles with Aram
Posts: 2993
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:21:01 am
Valiant fan since: 1991
Favorite character: ShadowMan
Favorite title: ShadowMan
Favorite writer: Dysart, Jordan
Location: Toronto Canada
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by MarrowMan »

greg wrote:
Crow331 wrote:a certain cajun crimefighter :twisted:
Gambit? :hm:
Haha. :clap: Hell no.
Image

User avatar
MarrowMan
Clinkin' bottles with Aram
Clinkin' bottles with Aram
Posts: 2993
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:21:01 am
Valiant fan since: 1991
Favorite character: ShadowMan
Favorite title: ShadowMan
Favorite writer: Dysart, Jordan
Location: Toronto Canada
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by MarrowMan »

etos45 wrote:It says in the USA Today article that Fred Van Lente did Amazing Spider-man, but there's no mention of that in his Wiki bibliography... anyone know what issues he did? It seems like the style of Spider-man would fit well with A&A.
He didn't do "Amazing Spider-Man" at all afaik.

Marvel Adventures Spider-Man #21–24, 33–36 (with Cory Hamscher, Marvel Comics, 2007, 2008) collected as:

Volume 6: The Black Costume (collects Marvel Adventures Spider-Man #21–24, 2007, ISBN 978-1-934220-05-4)
Volume 9: Fiercest Foes (collects Marvel Adventures Spider-Man #33-36, May 2008)
Image

User avatar
Crow331
Clinkin' bottles with Aram
Clinkin' bottles with Aram
Posts: 2501
Joined: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:02:54 pm
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by Crow331 »

greg wrote:
Crow331 wrote:a certain cajun crimefighter :twisted:
Gambit? :hm:
With the re-birth of the Valiant universe I am no longer aware of a universe that might contain such a character :twisted:

User avatar
greg
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
The admin around here must be getting old and soft.
Posts: 22861
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:39:27 am
Valiant fan since: Rai #0
Favorite character: Depends on title
Favorite title: Depends on writer
Favorite writer: Depends on artist
Favorite artist: Depends on character
Location: Indoors
Contact:
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by greg »

Crow331 wrote:
greg wrote:
Crow331 wrote:a certain cajun crimefighter :twisted:
Gambit? :hm:
With the re-birth of the Valiant universe I am no longer aware of a universe that might contain such a character :twisted:
Sure you are. It's Marvel. A fictional universe that exists inside the Valiant universe. :twisted:

User avatar
Donovan
...formerly The Beyonder
...formerly The Beyonder
Posts: 989
Joined: Fri May 25, 2007 3:55:43 pm
Valiant fan since: Unity. The first time.
Favorite character: Rai
Favorite title: VEI Quantum & Woody
Favorite writer: Matt Kindt
Favorite artist: Romulo Fajardo
Location: Canada
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by Donovan »

Google Clayton Henry. I'm not familiar with his work, but what I see popping up looks AWESOME! I think I may like his stuff more that Nord, which is saying something! (And I don't think he drew the preview poster, so some of you can breathe easy)

User avatar
etos45
I live to be inefficient!
I live to be inefficient!
Posts: 4145
Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:41:32 pm
Location: Anywhere but here... nope, there I am.
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by etos45 »

MarrowMan wrote:
etos45 wrote:It says in the USA Today article that Fred Van Lente did Amazing Spider-man, but there's no mention of that in his Wiki bibliography... anyone know what issues he did? It seems like the style of Spider-man would fit well with A&A.
He didn't do "Amazing Spider-Man" at all afaik.

Marvel Adventures Spider-Man #21–24, 33–36 (with Cory Hamscher, Marvel Comics, 2007, 2008) collected as:

Volume 6: The Black Costume (collects Marvel Adventures Spider-Man #21–24, 2007, ISBN 978-1-934220-05-4)
Volume 9: Fiercest Foes (collects Marvel Adventures Spider-Man #33-36, May 2008)
I don't know if Marvel Adventures Spider-Man has changed since I read it, but it wasn't very good... (Though, I don't think it was written to my demographic to begin with)

User avatar
orbitalshift
Get those scissors away from my coupons
Get those scissors away from my coupons
Posts: 321
Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:08:50 pm
Location: North Carolina
Re: Archer & Armstrong!

Post by orbitalshift »

Sounds like it will be interesting.

Wish they hadn't called it Archer and Armstrong.

Archer the would be assassin doesn't remind me much of the book I loved.

I really don't understand why they have to change things. Why not just write a new book?

Let's make it darker and more brooding like Wolverine cept with a crossbow, yeah, kids love that.

I reread A&A last night. It is still brilliant.

I know, I know wait and see. A&A was one of my favorite books, and so far this reboot has a nice logo and everything else I have seen makes me not even want to get the first issue.

I will of course and I hope I am wrong, but this just doesn't even seem close to me.


Post Reply