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dave wrote:I really enjoyed that book as well. It's daring to have a mutant super hero book sans the super abilities imo. Then I had my sons read it and they said, "This is stupid! This isn't even about the X-men."

They're young yet!
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Yeah, it's definitely geared toward an older audience. I think they may appreciate it when they are in high school and learn about the Holocaust (if they haven't wiped any mention of it from today's liberal text books :mad: ).
Actually, it's been my experience that the more "conservative" people are the ones wanting to erase such things from the history books. Case in point, Texas and the re-writing of history to suit the political aims of the "Religious Right".

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xodacia81 wrote: Actually, it's been my experience that the more "conservative" people are the ones wanting to erase such things from the history books. Case in point, Texas and the re-writing of history to suit the political aims of the "Religious Right".
You may be right. I just remember my old teachers who were libs. In history classes they always taught straight from the text books and nothing else.


So I finished reading the back matter in Magneto Testament. It was probably the most rewarding back matter I've ever read. It has references and places to get more information, talks about the research that went into the book, and there's a story about a survivor whose paintings she did while there and how they resurfaced, but the Polish museum won't give them back to her.

Most interestingly, there's about 4-5 pages of text on how the book can be used as a supplement to school teaching. It's very well laid out and includes activities, preparation, discussion points etc. This is the future of comics. It's books like this one and I Kill Giants that will live on as valid supplemental reference or literature when all the super hero stuff fades away.

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xodacia81 wrote: Actually, it's been my experience that the more "conservative" people are the ones wanting to erase such things from the history books. Case in point, Texas and the re-writing of history to suit the political aims of the "Religious Right".
You may be right. I just remember my old teachers who were libs. In history classes they always taught straight from the text books and nothing else.


So I finished reading the back matter in Magneto Testament. It was probably the most rewarding back matter I've ever read. It has references and places to get more information, talks about the research that went into the book, and there's a story about a survivor whose paintings she did while there and how they resurfaced, but the Polish museum won't give them back to her.

Most interestingly, there's about 4-5 pages of text on how the book can be used as a supplement to school teaching. It's very well laid out and includes activities, preparation, discussion points etc. This is the future of comics. It's books like this one and I Kill Giants that will live on as valid supplemental reference or literature when all the super hero stuff fades away.
I'm going to check this one out and I agree. I also think Maus works in much the same way. Also, although it is more superheroish than Maus or IKG, I believe that Sandman is on that "lit" level. 100 Bullets, Fables and even Y-the Last Man, also work on similar levels. There've been some amazing comics the last 20 or so years. As for your school, any teacher that goes straight from the text is lazy or in a school that has too much control over the teachers.

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Yeah, I still have both Maus books here. I need to get around to them eventually, but I've had enough black and white for a bit after just finished Strangers in Paradise and Bone.

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Forgetless tpb from the Shadowline Image line by Nick Spencer and various artists.

This was a good read.

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Finally got around to the latest Morning Glories issue (#4?).

Boring. I doubt the hype is going to continue much longer, the story isn't going anywhere...

In this issue we learn:

There are bad guys, and they behave - badly!

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Fables 100, which I made another post about and Flash # 7. If Kollins is going to be the new artist and keeps up what he did in this issue, sweet. I loved the "origin of Boomerang" in this one and the next issue, about "Reverse Flash" should be pretty sweet, too.

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dave wrote:Finally got around to the latest Morning Glories issue (#4?).

Boring. I doubt the hype is going to continue much longer, the story isn't going anywhere...

In this issue we learn:

There are bad guys, and they behave - badly!
I just read it a few night ago too. Yeah, it has slowed down since issue #2. There are 2 more issues in this first arc. I doubt we are going to learn too much. This book is going to be a slow burn. I just hope enough people stick around for the book to keep on going.

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400yrs wrote:
dave wrote:Finally got around to the latest Morning Glories issue (#4?).

Boring. I doubt the hype is going to continue much longer, the story isn't going anywhere...

In this issue we learn:

There are bad guys, and they behave - badly!
I just read it a few night ago too. Yeah, it has slowed down since issue #2. There are 2 more issues in this first arc. I doubt we are going to learn too much. This book is going to be a slow burn. I just hope enough people stick around for the book to keep on going.
I'm out. School cults and shock horror aren't what I got into this for...

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I started on 2 things recently:

9-11 volume 1. I'm reading a story or two at a time. Some are really good and touching. Some, I don't get.

Stephen King's Dark Tower - The Gunslinger - I read the first few pages and fell asleep. If that happens again, it goes in my trade / sale pile.

I want to re-read all of Proof before Endangered starts next week, but I don't know if I'll get to it.

I also need to get back to Fables some time soon since vol 14 will be coming to me in January. I need to re-read 12 to refresh myself on the goings-ons, read Cinerella, then JoF 1, then 13 then 14.

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400yrs wrote:I started on 2 things recently:

9-11 volume 1. I'm reading a story or two at a time. Some are really good and touching. Some, I don't get.

Stephen King's Dark Tower - The Gunslinger - I read the first few pages and fell asleep. If that happens again, it goes in my trade / sale pile.

I want to re-read all of Proof before Endangered starts next week, but I don't know if I'll get to it.

I also need to get back to Fables some time soon since vol 14 will be coming to me in January. I need to re-read 12 to refresh myself on the goings-ons, read Cinerella, then JoF 1, then 13 then 14.
Good to hear about Fables, because volume 15 is coming out in April and includes everything up through issue 100. I'm hearing it won't be priced too much differently than the others despite the massive amounts of pages.

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Flash 7

I've really enjoyed the first 6 issues of this series and was gutted to find Manapul wasn't the artist on this one. Scott Kolins was in the art department and pulled off some good work... but it wasn't Manapul. Has Manapul been replaced or was this a one off?

This was an excellent issue despite the absence of the Flash. A great character study of the returned Captain Boomerang.

Still well worth reading this! I'd just like Manapul back!

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ian_house wrote:Flash 7

I've really enjoyed the first 6 issues of this series and was gutted to find Manapul wasn't the artist on this one. Scott Kolins was in the art department and pulled off some good work... but it wasn't Manapul. Has Manapul been replaced or was this a one off?

This was an excellent issue despite the absence of the Flash. A great character study of the returned Captain Boomerang.

Still well worth reading this! I'd just like Manapul back!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE what Manapul has done on this book but if Kollins is the new artist, I can live with that, especially if it means no more 6 week delays. Hell, I'd even be happy with Kollins as the regular fill in, doing every 3rd or 4th book in order to give Manapul a breather. I like the direction the book is going and I think it's very important to understand Boomerang and, as of next issue, Reverse Flash. I'm just hoping all this stuff leading into Flashpoint doesn't result in a Final Crisis-sized wet fart.

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I quit reading Stephen King's Dark Tower - the Gunslinger.

I was hoping for a western, but it's more like a spiritual journey. I don't care for the coloring nor the lack of backgrounds either.

It's not bad, just not my style.

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I did not like it either just too out there

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xodacia81 wrote:
ian_house wrote:Flash 7

I've really enjoyed the first 6 issues of this series and was gutted to find Manapul wasn't the artist on this one. Scott Kolins was in the art department and pulled off some good work... but it wasn't Manapul. Has Manapul been replaced or was this a one off?

This was an excellent issue despite the absence of the Flash. A great character study of the returned Captain Boomerang.

Still well worth reading this! I'd just like Manapul back!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE what Manapul has done on this book but if Kollins is the new artist, I can live with that, especially if it means no more 6 week delays. Hell, I'd even be happy with Kollins as the regular fill in, doing every 3rd or 4th book in order to give Manapul a breather. I like the direction the book is going and I think it's very important to understand Boomerang and, as of next issue, Reverse Flash. I'm just hoping all this stuff leading into Flashpoint doesn't result in a Final Crisis-sized wet fart.
I know Boomerang has been ridiculed quite often and alot of people questioned why he was one of the 12 recently revived. But I love Boomerang he's a great character and a real main fixture of the proper rogues gallery. Personally it's only the a rogue's gallery if these three are there: Captain Cold, Mirror Master, Captain Boomerang. I love some of the others but these three are the best!

I'm not expecting anything as huge as Final Crisis for Flashpoint. I think it's going to be a chance for DC to reintroduce alot of the other Speedsters and Flash family into the Flash title and make Flash as wide and popular a corner of the DCU as Batman and Green Lantern have in the last couple of years.

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xodacia81 wrote:
ian_house wrote:Flash 7

I've really enjoyed the first 6 issues of this series and was gutted to find Manapul wasn't the artist on this one. Scott Kolins was in the art department and pulled off some good work... but it wasn't Manapul. Has Manapul been replaced or was this a one off?

This was an excellent issue despite the absence of the Flash. A great character study of the returned Captain Boomerang.

Still well worth reading this! I'd just like Manapul back!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE what Manapul has done on this book but if Kollins is the new artist, I can live with that, especially if it means no more 6 week delays. Hell, I'd even be happy with Kollins as the regular fill in, doing every 3rd or 4th book in order to give Manapul a breather. I like the direction the book is going and I think it's very important to understand Boomerang and, as of next issue, Reverse Flash. I'm just hoping all this stuff leading into Flashpoint doesn't result in a Final Crisis-sized wet fart.
I know Boomerang has been ridiculed quite often and alot of people questioned why he was one of the 12 recently revived. But I love Boomerang he's a great character and a real main fixture of the proper rogues gallery. Personally it's only the a rogue's gallery if these three are there: Captain Cold, Mirror Master, Captain Boomerang. I love some of the others but these three are the best!

I'm not expecting anything as huge as Final Crisis for Flashpoint. I think it's going to be a chance for DC to reintroduce alot of the other Speedsters and Flash family into the Flash title and make Flash as wide and popular a corner of the DCU as Batman and Green Lantern have in the last couple of years.
I'm hearing otherwise, but it would be nice. Instead of it being another 52 week event, I'd like it to be something like 4-6 issues spread out over no more than 3 months, but I have this feeling it's going to be 4-6 months long, if not more. I say enough with the constant "epic" crossover/tie-in crap and just let things BE for a while. Changes should occur within a title, not in some other book. Let the characters and concepts take root for two or three years. Hell, I'm already upset at the rumors I'm hearing that Darkseid is back next year. I say he is either DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD or they need to keep him "dead" for at least another 3 years. Let him be gone long enough that it doesn't seem cheap.

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xodacia81 wrote:
ian_house wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
ian_house wrote:Flash 7

I've really enjoyed the first 6 issues of this series and was gutted to find Manapul wasn't the artist on this one. Scott Kolins was in the art department and pulled off some good work... but it wasn't Manapul. Has Manapul been replaced or was this a one off?

This was an excellent issue despite the absence of the Flash. A great character study of the returned Captain Boomerang.

Still well worth reading this! I'd just like Manapul back!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE what Manapul has done on this book but if Kollins is the new artist, I can live with that, especially if it means no more 6 week delays. Hell, I'd even be happy with Kollins as the regular fill in, doing every 3rd or 4th book in order to give Manapul a breather. I like the direction the book is going and I think it's very important to understand Boomerang and, as of next issue, Reverse Flash. I'm just hoping all this stuff leading into Flashpoint doesn't result in a Final Crisis-sized wet fart.
I know Boomerang has been ridiculed quite often and alot of people questioned why he was one of the 12 recently revived. But I love Boomerang he's a great character and a real main fixture of the proper rogues gallery. Personally it's only the a rogue's gallery if these three are there: Captain Cold, Mirror Master, Captain Boomerang. I love some of the others but these three are the best!

I'm not expecting anything as huge as Final Crisis for Flashpoint. I think it's going to be a chance for DC to reintroduce alot of the other Speedsters and Flash family into the Flash title and make Flash as wide and popular a corner of the DCU as Batman and Green Lantern have in the last couple of years.
I'm hearing otherwise, but it would be nice. Instead of it being another 52 week event, I'd like it to be something like 4-6 issues spread out over no more than 3 months, but I have this feeling it's going to be 4-6 months long, if not more. I say enough with the constant "epic" crossover/tie-in crap and just let things BE for a while. Changes should occur within a title, not in some other book. Let the characters and concepts take root for two or three years. Hell, I'm already upset at the rumors I'm hearing that Darkseid is back next year. I say he is either DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD or they need to keep him "dead" for at least another 3 years. Let him be gone long enough that it doesn't seem cheap.
I've heard very little about Flashpoint. Shame though I don't really see the need for something so massive. I guess it'll shift a few extra comics (whilst also being the final straw for a few more and yet again reducing readers in the long run).

You can't keep Darkseid dead though... just too evil! :lol:

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ian_house wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
ian_house wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
ian_house wrote:Flash 7

I've really enjoyed the first 6 issues of this series and was gutted to find Manapul wasn't the artist on this one. Scott Kolins was in the art department and pulled off some good work... but it wasn't Manapul. Has Manapul been replaced or was this a one off?

This was an excellent issue despite the absence of the Flash. A great character study of the returned Captain Boomerang.

Still well worth reading this! I'd just like Manapul back!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE what Manapul has done on this book but if Kollins is the new artist, I can live with that, especially if it means no more 6 week delays. Hell, I'd even be happy with Kollins as the regular fill in, doing every 3rd or 4th book in order to give Manapul a breather. I like the direction the book is going and I think it's very important to understand Boomerang and, as of next issue, Reverse Flash. I'm just hoping all this stuff leading into Flashpoint doesn't result in a Final Crisis-sized wet fart.
I know Boomerang has been ridiculed quite often and alot of people questioned why he was one of the 12 recently revived. But I love Boomerang he's a great character and a real main fixture of the proper rogues gallery. Personally it's only the a rogue's gallery if these three are there: Captain Cold, Mirror Master, Captain Boomerang. I love some of the others but these three are the best!

I'm not expecting anything as huge as Final Crisis for Flashpoint. I think it's going to be a chance for DC to reintroduce alot of the other Speedsters and Flash family into the Flash title and make Flash as wide and popular a corner of the DCU as Batman and Green Lantern have in the last couple of years.
I'm hearing otherwise, but it would be nice. Instead of it being another 52 week event, I'd like it to be something like 4-6 issues spread out over no more than 3 months, but I have this feeling it's going to be 4-6 months long, if not more. I say enough with the constant "epic" crossover/tie-in crap and just let things BE for a while. Changes should occur within a title, not in some other book. Let the characters and concepts take root for two or three years. Hell, I'm already upset at the rumors I'm hearing that Darkseid is back next year. I say he is either DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD DEAD or they need to keep him "dead" for at least another 3 years. Let him be gone long enough that it doesn't seem cheap.
I've heard very little about Flashpoint. Shame though I don't really see the need for something so massive. I guess it'll shift a few extra comics (whilst also being the final straw for a few more and yet again reducing readers in the long run).

You can't keep Darkseid dead though... just too evil! :lol:
I want him DEAD, but if they must return him to the living, then let him stay dead a while. I want him off-canvas for 5 or 6 years, at the least. Let everyone think he's really dead and then re-introduce him in a way that means something. You know, like killing Batman. Oh, wait.... :twisted:

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Getting to the end of the Paul Dini run on Detective Comics and I have to say that it's been an extremely enjoyable read. I started breaking back into the Batman books around the time of RIP, so I started in at the very end of Dini's run with "Heart of Hush," but having picked up all the Dini-written back issues, I have to say that it's a wonderful example of the having the best of both worlds.

Most of his Detective run were done-in-one stories with some 2-parters here and there and "Heart of Hush" being by far the longest storyline with 5 parts. Even though the majority of the stories were done-in-ones, Dini managed to pack in a TON of storytelling into an individual issue without it seeming overly dense. He also had some subtle elements/characters/subplots that threaded their way through his entire run, so that even though nearly every issue was an easy access point for new readers, the overall run is even more rewarding for those who read the whole thing.

I just found it impressive as I read through this run that Dini showed us a wonderful example of how you can do contemporary comic book storytelling without having to "write for the trade."

Not sure what I'm going to get into next, I have the last Dini 2-part story that followed RIP, and then I may get into the Carl Potts/Jim Lee run of Punisher War Journal that I just recently completed.

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Jersen wrote:Getting to the end of the Paul Dini run on Detective Comics and I have to say that it's been an extremely enjoyable read. I started breaking back into the Batman books around the time of RIP, so I started in at the very end of Dini's run with "Heart of Hush," but having picked up all the Dini-written back issues, I have to say that it's a wonderful example of the having the best of both worlds.

Most of his Detective run were done-in-one stories with some 2-parters here and there and "Heart of Hush" being by far the longest storyline with 5 parts. Even though the majority of the stories were done-in-ones, Dini managed to pack in a TON of storytelling into an individual issue without it seeming overly dense. He also had some subtle elements/characters/subplots that threaded their way through his entire run, so that even though nearly every issue was an easy access point for new readers, the overall run is even more rewarding for those who read the whole thing.

I just found it impressive as I read through this run that Dini showed us a wonderful example of how you can do contemporary comic book storytelling without having to "write for the trade."

Not sure what I'm going to get into next, I have the last Dini 2-part story that followed RIP, and then I may get into the Carl Potts/Jim Lee run of Punisher War Journal that I just recently completed.
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Jersen wrote:Getting to the end of the Paul Dini run on Detective Comics and I have to say that it's been an extremely enjoyable read. I started breaking back into the Batman books around the time of RIP, so I started in at the very end of Dini's run with "Heart of Hush," but having picked up all the Dini-written back issues, I have to say that it's a wonderful example of the having the best of both worlds.

Most of his Detective run were done-in-one stories with some 2-parters here and there and "Heart of Hush" being by far the longest storyline with 5 parts. Even though the majority of the stories were done-in-ones, Dini managed to pack in a TON of storytelling into an individual issue without it seeming overly dense. He also had some subtle elements/characters/subplots that threaded their way through his entire run, so that even though nearly every issue was an easy access point for new readers, the overall run is even more rewarding for those who read the whole thing.

I just found it impressive as I read through this run that Dini showed us a wonderful example of how you can do contemporary comic book storytelling without having to "write for the trade."

Not sure what I'm going to get into next, I have the last Dini 2-part story that followed RIP, and then I may get into the Carl Potts/Jim Lee run of Punisher War Journal that I just recently completed.
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I read a handful of Dini Detectives and loved them. I bought all the rest of them and they are in my "to read" box. I don't like too much Batman, but this stuff was really good.

I feel very similarly about the Johns / Donner Action run and the Johns issues I've read after that. I hate Supes, but really liked these. Still need to read a stack of those too.


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