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Re: HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!

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JonesyAZ wrote:Okay, so I just finished reading Magnus #30...knee-deep in the Malev conflict now...

This storyline is AWESOME! It has a very "Unity"-esque feel to it, being a grand epic sci-fi adventure...I absolutely LOVE this story so far!!! The characterization is very well-done, and i'm especially digging the views into the world of 4002! "Aryantina" is a cheesy concept and I liked the X-O Manowar's appearance in this future story.

I can't wait to find out more about "Spylocke." Based on the fact that he goes by the name "Ananse," and his desire for the X-O, my gut is telling me he's a spider alien. (I recently had read Neil Gaiman's novel, "Anansi Boys..." so if this "Ananse" is anything related to the old African God...lol).

Holy crap...i'm just so darn excited to be a Valiant-Head. Betcha can't tell? Hahahahaha....
Great to see your excitment. Please go on sharing. Maybe you can revive the rereading threads?

The Malev wars did have some good points. We got to see more of the world and they referred to stuff from other story-lines and even other books. My complaint is that it tore down the old Manning-inspired world and killed of several old characters. As you say it's a long story and you have to read Rai also to get the whole picture. There are some good stand-alone issues in there, such as Magnus 32 and 33.

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Re: HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!

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magnusr wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:Okay, so I just finished reading Magnus #30...knee-deep in the Malev conflict now...

This storyline is AWESOME! It has a very "Unity"-esque feel to it, being a grand epic sci-fi adventure...I absolutely LOVE this story so far!!! The characterization is very well-done, and i'm especially digging the views into the world of 4002! "Aryantina" is a cheesy concept and I liked the X-O Manowar's appearance in this future story.

I can't wait to find out more about "Spylocke." Based on the fact that he goes by the name "Ananse," and his desire for the X-O, my gut is telling me he's a spider alien. (I recently had read Neil Gaiman's novel, "Anansi Boys..." so if this "Ananse" is anything related to the old African God...lol).

Holy crap...i'm just so darn excited to be a Valiant-Head. Betcha can't tell? Hahahahaha....
Great to see your excitment. Please go on sharing. Maybe you can revive the rereading threads?

The Malev wars did have some good points. We got to see more of the world and they referred to stuff from other story-lines and even other books. My complaint is that it tore down the old Manning-inspired world and killed of several old characters. As you say it's a long story and you have to read Rai also to get the whole picture. There are some good stand-alone issues in there, such as Magnus 32 and 33.

/Magnus
I see what you mean about the old "Russ Manning" world being torn apart. I am pretty sure that after this huge story arc is finished that the rest of the Magnus run will probably be "meh" especially after reading about what people have thought regarding Giffen's stories. But I bet for those who "were there" when these books were being released month after month...it must have been the comic book equivalent to Sci-Fi's "Battlestar Galactica" series; you just can't wait for the next installment!!!!

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I loved the Malev War, but it really fell apart for me at the end.

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chisumwomack wrote:I loved the Malev War, but it really fell apart for me at the end.
The end of the Malev War was a bit of a disappointment, but nothing compared to the mess that comes later on.

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it was matrix pt 1

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Okay, so I just read the issue where Tekla gave her life for the "Future Force" to continue on in their journey. I can't think of the last time where I genuinely felt for a character in a situation like that. Tekla's journey from her humble robotic beginnings in the Steel Nation saga has been, for me, one of the best sub-plots of the Valiant Magnus mythos. From day one, i've really connected with that character, and a part of me kind of hoped that Magnus and her would have hooked up. Granted, I can understand the wierdness of a robot and human together...but hey, Scud and Sussudio made it work!

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JonesyAZ wrote:From day one, i've really connected with that character
:thumb: It's a great character!

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JonesyAZ wrote:Okay, so I just read the issue where Tekla gave her life for the "Future Force" to continue on in their journey. I can't think of the last time where I genuinely felt for a character in a situation like that. Tekla's journey from her humble robotic beginnings in the Steel Nation saga has been, for me, one of the best sub-plots of the Valiant Magnus mythos. From day one, i've really connected with that character, and a part of me kind of hoped that Magnus and her would have hooked up. Granted, I can understand the wierdness of a robot and human together...but hey, Scud and Sussudio made it work!
I'd do her...with proper lube of course! :o :D :twisted:
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sonicdan wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:Okay, so I just read the issue where Tekla gave her life for the "Future Force" to continue on in their journey. I can't think of the last time where I genuinely felt for a character in a situation like that. Tekla's journey from her humble robotic beginnings in the Steel Nation saga has been, for me, one of the best sub-plots of the Valiant Magnus mythos. From day one, i've really connected with that character, and a part of me kind of hoped that Magnus and her would have hooked up. Granted, I can understand the wierdness of a robot and human together...but hey, Scud and Sussudio made it work!
I'd do her...with proper lube of course! :o :D :twisted:
DAN
Dude, that's awesome. The quote...AND the fact that you're from Nebraska! I was born in Omaha and lived there until I was 8. Then the fam moved to Phoenix, Arizona. I still miss the ol' N.E. at times though...

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wow I used to go to Omaha a lot lived in topeka Ks till i moves out here to PHX small world

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superman-prime wrote:wow I used to go to Omaha a lot lived in topeka Ks till i moves out here to PHX small world
Hahahahaha, hell yeah it's a small world! I hear Topeka ain't a bad place to live either?

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its cheep but lawerence is the place to live in eastern KS

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So I just finished "The Malev War" last night. Epic. Fun. Tear-jerking (yes, I shed a tear for Mr. Rai...lol...hell, even Tekla!).

As i'm sure I mentioned earlier in this thread, I haven't had this much fun reading a comic book story in YEARS. I will post more thoughts later, but what a BLAST!!!!

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# 46 concludes the last "fun" story in Magnus history. # 55 is the last sane issue. The story from 47-54 is pretty crazy, but nothing is like what you get once Giffen hits the book in # 55. It's like you're drinking crystal clear water and all of a sudden in the middle of a gulp, you realize you're sucking down sewage. It's sudden and sickening and there is no way out of it.

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xodacia81 wrote:# 46 concludes the last "fun" story in Magnus history. # 55 is the last sane issue. The story from 47-54 is pretty crazy, but nothing is like what you get once Giffen hits the book in # 55. It's like you're drinking crystal clear water and all of a sudden in the middle of a gulp, you realize you're sucking down sewage. It's sudden and sickening and there is no way out of it.
I gotta tell ya...i'm quite intrigued to read those Giffen issues, just to see how insane they are...lol. I wonder if it's like the "All-Star Batman & Robin" series by Frank Miller. It couldn't get any worse, yet it was still entertaining because it was THAT bad. I actually love that series in hindsight...

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xodacia81 wrote:# 46 concludes the last "fun" story in Magnus history. # 55 is the last sane issue. The story from 47-54 is pretty crazy, but nothing is like what you get once Giffen hits the book in # 55. It's like you're drinking crystal clear water and all of a sudden in the middle of a gulp, you realize you're sucking down sewage. It's sudden and sickening and there is no way out of it.
Good description. It sure is 180° from what Shooter envisioned for the characters.

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JonesyAZ wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:# 46 concludes the last "fun" story in Magnus history. # 55 is the last sane issue. The story from 47-54 is pretty crazy, but nothing is like what you get once Giffen hits the book in # 55. It's like you're drinking crystal clear water and all of a sudden in the middle of a gulp, you realize you're sucking down sewage. It's sudden and sickening and there is no way out of it.
I gotta tell ya...i'm quite intrigued to read those Giffen issues, just to see how insane they are...lol. I wonder if it's like the "All-Star Batman & Robin" series by Frank Miller. It couldn't get any worse, yet it was still entertaining because it was THAT bad. I actually love that series in hindsight...
It is BAD, from the art to the writing to the writing to the writing and the art. Yep, it's dreck.

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I liked the Giffen issues, but that's just me :?
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JonesyAZ wrote: Dude, that's awesome. The quote...AND the fact that you're from Nebraska! I was born in Omaha and lived there until I was 8. Then the fam moved to Phoenix, Arizona. I still miss the ol' N.E. at times though...
I live about 2 hours from Omaha but get there pretty frequently, same with Lincoln. Ahhh Nebraska...the good life! :thumb:
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Why does all the corn in Iowa lean to the West?

Because NEBRASKA SUCKS!

Why does all the wheat in Kansas lean to the South?

Because NEBRASKA BLOWS!

(That's all I got. Oh yeah--Weird Harold!)

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sonicdan wrote:I liked the Giffen issues, but that's just me :?
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Noooo!!!

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BloodOfHeroes wrote:Why does all the corn in Iowa lean to the West?

Because NEBRASKA SUCKS!

Why does all the wheat in Kansas lean to the South?

Because NEBRASKA BLOWS!

(That's all I got. Oh yeah--Weird Harold!)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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This reminds me of the reason why Detroit sucks-because Chicago blows.

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:lol:

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xodacia81 wrote:This reminds me of the reason why Detroit sucks-because Chicago blows.
Oh, yeah?!?!

YO' MAMA!!

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