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Invincible 59. Friggin excellence!! This was an awesome stand alone issue before the huge crossover issue in 60 and the conquest thereafter. If you want an introduction to this series, #59 would probably be a decent one.

Kirkman is the plot master. He always has a bunch of plots running in this book and he always manages to pull something out of an old issue that most writers would never bother to do and makes a brilliant story out of it.

This issue follows around the villain instead of Invincible. The origin of the villain, who is a brand new character to the series, is related to the big fight that happened way back in issue 11 or 12. What happens to the villain in this issue is almost gut wrenching the way that the issue was written. This could be a very good Invincible villain somewhere down the line.


Madrox Mini from the 2004 Marvel Knights line. This was pretty damn good. It had a noirish feel, which I like. Madrox is a very cool character if he's written well, but I'm sure he could be very confusing if poorly written. But it's Peter David, so it's solid. I read this as a precursor to reading the new X-Factor series. I'm sure I'll like it.
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400yrs wrote:Madrox Mini from the 2004 Marvel Knights line. This was pretty damn good. It had a noirish feel, which I like. Madrox is a very cool character if he's written well, but I'm sure he could be very confusing if poorly written. But it's Peter David, so it's solid. I read this as a precursor to reading the new X-Factor series. I'm sure I'll like it.
Peter David is GREAT! He writes some awesome books and Madrox was one of them. I felt he really captured the feel of being a "multiple man".

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dellamorte wrote:I was catching up on my Ultimate marvel books. Can anyone tell me why Jeph Loeb gets work? Both the Ultimate Cap and Hulk annuals were horrid.
I blame the "universe" - there is only so much one can do when a company rips itself off.

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I like ultiamtes 1 and 2 the rest is ok

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400yrs wrote:Madrox Mini from the 2004 Marvel Knights line. This was pretty damn good. It had a noirish feel, which I like. Madrox is a very cool character if he's written well, but I'm sure he could be very confusing if poorly written. But it's Peter David, so it's solid. I read this as a precursor to reading the new X-Factor series. I'm sure I'll like it.
Peter David is GREAT! He writes some awesome books and Madrox was one of them. I felt he really captured the feel of being a "multiple man".
The Madrox series was great, and he carried it over into X-Factor, and THAT book is fantastic!

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Just finished Sojourn...finally.

Seems like kind of a waste to have invested time in reading it since the story was never finished. The art was pretty to look at (with the exception of issue #34), and it was an enjoyable read, but I wouldn't recommend it since it's an incomplete story.

One thing I noticed, since I am also reading an older run of books at the same time (Crossfire from Eclipse). The Sojourn issues were VERY quick reads. I think it probably took about five minutes to read each issue, as opposed to the much longer amount of time it took to read the older books.

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she is a good read :thumb:

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Brother J wrote:Just finished Sojourn...finally.

Seems like kind of a waste to have invested time in reading it since the story was never finished. The art was pretty to look at (with the exception of issue #34), and it was an enjoyable read, but I wouldn't recommend it since it's an incomplete story.

One thing I noticed, since I am also reading an older run of books at the same time (Crossfire from Eclipse). The Sojourn issues were VERY quick reads. I think it probably took about five minutes to read each issue, as opposed to the much longer amount of time it took to read the older books.

Not ending was sure a bummer.

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Elveen wrote:
Brother J wrote:Just finished Sojourn...finally.

Seems like kind of a waste to have invested time in reading it since the story was never finished. The art was pretty to look at (with the exception of issue #34), and it was an enjoyable read, but I wouldn't recommend it since it's an incomplete story.

One thing I noticed, since I am also reading an older run of books at the same time (Crossfire from Eclipse). The Sojourn issues were VERY quick reads. I think it probably took about five minutes to read each issue, as opposed to the much longer amount of time it took to read the older books.

Not ending was sure a bummer.
Heh - I was working at my LCS when CG when out of business. I remember just NOT getting any books, no notice, and lots of mildly unhappy customers. It seemed more than a week (I could be wrong) before anyone knew that we wouldn't ever be getting any more CrossGen stuff. Sojourn was the only CG book I bought, as well.....

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slym2none wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Brother J wrote:Just finished Sojourn...finally.

Seems like kind of a waste to have invested time in reading it since the story was never finished. The art was pretty to look at (with the exception of issue #34), and it was an enjoyable read, but I wouldn't recommend it since it's an incomplete story.

One thing I noticed, since I am also reading an older run of books at the same time (Crossfire from Eclipse). The Sojourn issues were VERY quick reads. I think it probably took about five minutes to read each issue, as opposed to the much longer amount of time it took to read the older books.

Not ending was sure a bummer.
Heh - I was working at my LCS when CG when out of business. I remember just NOT getting any books, no notice, and lots of mildly unhappy customers. It seemed more than a week (I could be wrong) before anyone knew that we wouldn't ever be getting any more CrossGen stuff. Sojourn was the only CG book I bought, as well.....

:|



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That's a truly rotten way for a company to go out.

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slym2none wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Brother J wrote:Just finished Sojourn...finally.

Seems like kind of a waste to have invested time in reading it since the story was never finished. The art was pretty to look at (with the exception of issue #34), and it was an enjoyable read, but I wouldn't recommend it since it's an incomplete story.

One thing I noticed, since I am also reading an older run of books at the same time (Crossfire from Eclipse). The Sojourn issues were VERY quick reads. I think it probably took about five minutes to read each issue, as opposed to the much longer amount of time it took to read the older books.

Not ending was sure a bummer.
Heh - I was working at my LCS when CG when out of business. I remember just NOT getting any books, no notice, and lots of mildly unhappy customers. It seemed more than a week (I could be wrong) before anyone knew that we wouldn't ever be getting any more CrossGen stuff. Sojourn was the only CG book I bought, as well.....

:|



-slym
Yep. It was very sudden and I remember being extremely disappointed. Not to say there wasn't some hints and rumors about them having financial problems, because there were. But when it was officially announced, it was rushed and some books were never given even a semblance of an ending.

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Lightning Strike wrote:
slym2none wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Brother J wrote:Just finished Sojourn...finally.

Seems like kind of a waste to have invested time in reading it since the story was never finished. The art was pretty to look at (with the exception of issue #34), and it was an enjoyable read, but I wouldn't recommend it since it's an incomplete story.

One thing I noticed, since I am also reading an older run of books at the same time (Crossfire from Eclipse). The Sojourn issues were VERY quick reads. I think it probably took about five minutes to read each issue, as opposed to the much longer amount of time it took to read the older books.

Not ending was sure a bummer.
Heh - I was working at my LCS when CG when out of business. I remember just NOT getting any books, no notice, and lots of mildly unhappy customers. It seemed more than a week (I could be wrong) before anyone knew that we wouldn't ever be getting any more CrossGen stuff. Sojourn was the only CG book I bought, as well.....

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-slym
Yep. It was very sudden and I remember being extremely disappointed. Not to say there wasn't some hints and rumors about them having financial problems, because there were. But when it was officially announced, it was rushed and some books were never given even a semblance of an ending.
Looking at CG, it seems to be a bit of a mirror-on a much smaller scale-to VALIANT.

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xodacia81 wrote:
Lightning Strike wrote:
slym2none wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Brother J wrote:Just finished Sojourn...finally.

Seems like kind of a waste to have invested time in reading it since the story was never finished. The art was pretty to look at (with the exception of issue #34), and it was an enjoyable read, but I wouldn't recommend it since it's an incomplete story.

One thing I noticed, since I am also reading an older run of books at the same time (Crossfire from Eclipse). The Sojourn issues were VERY quick reads. I think it probably took about five minutes to read each issue, as opposed to the much longer amount of time it took to read the older books.

Not ending was sure a bummer.
Heh - I was working at my LCS when CG when out of business. I remember just NOT getting any books, no notice, and lots of mildly unhappy customers. It seemed more than a week (I could be wrong) before anyone knew that we wouldn't ever be getting any more CrossGen stuff. Sojourn was the only CG book I bought, as well.....

:|



-slym
Yep. It was very sudden and I remember being extremely disappointed. Not to say there wasn't some hints and rumors about them having financial problems, because there were. But when it was officially announced, it was rushed and some books were never given even a semblance of an ending.
Looking at CG, it seems to be a bit of a mirror-on a much smaller scale-to VALIANT.

But I think Crossgen had better stories towards the end. On alot of the books they had the same creative team for longer runs. Kinda like B.H. on Shadowman.

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Elveen wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
Lightning Strike wrote:
slym2none wrote:
Elveen wrote:
Brother J wrote:Just finished Sojourn...finally.

Seems like kind of a waste to have invested time in reading it since the story was never finished. The art was pretty to look at (with the exception of issue #34), and it was an enjoyable read, but I wouldn't recommend it since it's an incomplete story.

One thing I noticed, since I am also reading an older run of books at the same time (Crossfire from Eclipse). The Sojourn issues were VERY quick reads. I think it probably took about five minutes to read each issue, as opposed to the much longer amount of time it took to read the older books.

Not ending was sure a bummer.
Heh - I was working at my LCS when CG when out of business. I remember just NOT getting any books, no notice, and lots of mildly unhappy customers. It seemed more than a week (I could be wrong) before anyone knew that we wouldn't ever be getting any more CrossGen stuff. Sojourn was the only CG book I bought, as well.....

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-slym
Yep. It was very sudden and I remember being extremely disappointed. Not to say there wasn't some hints and rumors about them having financial problems, because there were. But when it was officially announced, it was rushed and some books were never given even a semblance of an ending.
Looking at CG, it seems to be a bit of a mirror-on a much smaller scale-to VALIANT.

But I think Crossgen had better stories towards the end. On alot of the books they had the same creative team for longer runs. Kinda like B.H. on Shadowman.
Granted. My point was a "very unique" universe run by a company that peaked soon and faded fast, falling HARD.

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Elveen wrote:But I think Crossgen had better stories towards the end.
Counterpoint - VALIANT had endings for their books.

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I am reading Unity.

I re-read the first 11 issues of Solar and decided now was the time and will actually finish it this time.

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slym2none wrote:
Elveen wrote:But I think Crossgen had better stories towards the end.
Counterpoint - VALIANT had endings for their books.

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Really? Not all of them. What books had endings?

Shadowman had an ending. I guess X-O too. what other books?

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Green Lantern Emerald Dawn - Good story. I think this is the last of the GL that I have so I'm finally starting the Sinestro Copr War (if I don't keep buying earlier stuff like I have been lately).

Ronin - Still trying to make my way through this. I'm in the middle of issue 3. This is the kind of book that makes me want to stop reading comics altogether. I probably won't finish this series so that I can read better stuff .... unless someone here says that it gets a hell of a lot better near the end.
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Elveen wrote:
slym2none wrote:
Elveen wrote:But I think Crossgen had better stories towards the end.
Counterpoint - VALIANT had endings for their books.

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Really? Not all of them. What books had endings?

Shadowman had an ending. I guess X-O too. what other books?
Magnus and Solar had endings, as far as I recall. Don't remember Turok too much.

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Brother J wrote:
Elveen wrote:
slym2none wrote:
Elveen wrote:But I think Crossgen had better stories towards the end.
Counterpoint - VALIANT had endings for their books.

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Really? Not all of them. What books had endings?

Shadowman had an ending. I guess X-O too. what other books?
Magnus and Solar had endings, as far as I recall. Don't remember Turok too much.
Magnus didn't have an ending. There were just some strange "alternate" stories after issue 50 :twisted:

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xodacia81 wrote:
Brother J wrote:
Elveen wrote:
slym2none wrote:
Elveen wrote:But I think Crossgen had better stories towards the end.
Counterpoint - VALIANT had endings for their books.

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Really? Not all of them. What books had endings?

Shadowman had an ending. I guess X-O too. what other books?
Magnus and Solar had endings, as far as I recall. Don't remember Turok too much.
Magnus didn't have an ending. There were just some strange "alternate" stories after issue 50 :twisted:
I thought Magnus kind of sucked after he got the great idea to kill all robots, totally contradicting his beliefs from the earlier issues of the comic. Very disappointing and out of character.

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Brother J wrote:I thought Magnus kind of sucked after he got the great idea to kill all robots, totally contradicting his beliefs from the earlier issues of the comic. Very disappointing and out of character.
You can thank Giffen for that.

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Brother J wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
Brother J wrote:
Elveen wrote:
slym2none wrote:
Elveen wrote:But I think Crossgen had better stories towards the end.
Counterpoint - VALIANT had endings for their books.

:wink:



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Really? Not all of them. What books had endings?

Shadowman had an ending. I guess X-O too. what other books?
Magnus and Solar had endings, as far as I recall. Don't remember Turok too much.
Magnus didn't have an ending. There were just some strange "alternate" stories after issue 50 :twisted:
I thought Magnus kind of sucked after he got the great idea to kill all robots, totally contradicting his beliefs from the earlier issues of the comic. Very disappointing and out of character.
I think a better idea would have been to either integrate the robots and deal with the ramifications of robots living alongside the humans they once were killing OR they could have had Magnus send them all into exile. But the "killing"? Yes, very out of character. Still, some good stories came out of the the post-Malev War, pre Giffen era.

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400yrs wrote:Ronin - Still trying to make my way through this. I'm in the middle of issue 3. This is the kind of book that makes me want to stop reading comics altogether. I probably won't finish this series so that I can read better stuff .... unless someone here says that it gets a hell of a lot better near the end.
Miller's way over-rated. Most of his stuff I have to fight to read through. Haven't read Ronin but, that goes for the Dark Knight Returns and 300.

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So Chris Claremont's Big Hero 6 was indeed a big yawn.

Kaare Andrew's Spider-Man: Reign is shaping up to be a cool homage to Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns.


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