Anything New Happening W/Valiant?

turborip · Post by **turborip** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:40 am

Knightt wrote:
Well maybe they can use that snazzy website of theirs to post 'stuff' ask questions of the fans, maybe conduct a contest or two...

http://www.valiantentertainment.com/forums

It sure would be nice to find some of those things there.

turborip · Post by **turborip** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:51 am

xodacia81 wrote:VEI needs to do something. This is twice that something has "gone wrong" and neither time have we gotten word on any real reasons why, and certainly nothing in a timely fashion. "Printing errors"-announced a month after the A&A hc was due out? "New books generated by the end of the year"? Well, here it is, 2009 and no word on what is being generated. I understand about legal contracts and all but even a disclaimer saying they can't discuss ANYTHING yet, would suffice. Unless they can't even do THAT. Either way, this is very frustrating indeed.

I think the subject may have been broached before, but could it be a simple matter of economics that is hindering the release of the hardcovers as well as any new material?

If so, and if I was in that boat, I wouldn't go around talking about it. There's a big difference between discussing 'printing errors' and 'we couldn't pay the printers'.

I help out on a website devoted to Japanese sci-fi and fantasy, and one of the stories to come out of 2008 was the loss of several companies that were involved in the niche DVD market (BCI and Tartan, to name a couple) due to the economic crisis. I cant help and equate what VEI is doing with these titles to those DVD companies that were putting out obscure Ultraman DVDs. Yes, there is a market, maybe even a rabid one, but is it big enough to launch new titles right now in these economic times?

I'd rather have some silence if it means they are riding out the times and don't want to discuss money issues, rather than see the presss release that they are closing shop like so many other small publishers.

All this is purely speculative, of course!

xodacia81 · Post by **xodacia81** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:55 am

turborip wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:VEI needs to do something. This is twice that something has "gone wrong" and neither time have we gotten word on any real reasons why, and certainly nothing in a timely fashion. "Printing errors"-announced a month after the A&A hc was due out? "New books generated by the end of the year"? Well, here it is, 2009 and no word on what is being generated. I understand about legal contracts and all but even a disclaimer saying they can't discuss ANYTHING yet, would suffice. Unless they can't even do THAT. Either way, this is very frustrating indeed.
I think the subject may have been broached before, but could it be a simple matter of economics that is hindering the release of the hardcovers as well as any new material?

If so, and if I was in that boat, I wouldn't go around talking about it. There's a big difference between discussing 'printing errors' and 'we couldn't pay the printers'.

I help out on a website devoted to Japanese sci-fi and fantasy, and one of the stories to come out of 2008 was the loss of several companies that were involved in the niche DVD market (BCI and Tartan, to name a couple) due to the economic crisis. I cant help and equate what VEI is doing with these titles to those DVD companies that were putting out obscure Ultraman DVDs. Yes, there is a market, maybe even a rabid one, but is it big enough to launch new titles right now in these economic times?

I'd rather have some silence if it means they are riding out the times and don't want to discuss money issues, rather than see the presss release that they are closing shop like so many other small publishers.

All this is purely speculative, of course!

Oh, I have considered that and if that is the case, I think it's very unfortunate and wish them the best. But if it isn't economics, I'd like some info on what we can expect this year, even just "hey guys, if everything goes right, we should have our first monthly by December". Generalities that don't betray inside biz practices wouldn't be bad and indeed, an improvement over the crickets we've gotten this fall.

bnasty71 · Post by **bnasty71** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:16 am

I agree with some of the previous posts,but disagree with alot of others. We're no asking for an explaination from VEI. Just a simple "Hello,we're still here." would be great.

bnasty71 · Post by **bnasty71** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:19 am

xodacia81 wrote: Oh, I have considered that and if that is the case, I think it's very unfortunate and wish them the best. But if it isn't economics, I'd like some info on what we can expect this year, even just "hey guys, if everything goes right, we should have our first monthly by December". Generalities that don't betray inside biz practices wouldn't be bad and indeed, an improvement over the crickets we've gotten this fall.

Amen, Brother!!!

comicsyte95 · Post by **comicsyte95** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:30 pm

VEI should announce something,that i agree!!anything announcement even we are putting out so many books this year ...ect.as a fan i'm a little disapointed after all,VEI has so much potential!!!VALIANT could easily over shadow MARVEL or DC(both have great books) like in the 90's.

KenClarkson4Prez · Post by **KenClarkson4Prez** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:42 am

does anyone think maybe Dark Horse would be interested in buying VEI? thats probably our only hope of reuniting the Gold Key and Valiant characters. i have lost all faith in VEI's ability/desire to put out product, and am desperate to find a silver lining. its probably a pipe dream, but the lack of communiques from VEI tells me there are serious problems with there. i think dark horse could do a good job with valiant as an imprint, or something. thoughts?

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:58 am

While I can understand the frustration with a definitive known plan, I would like to point out two obvious things:

1) It's a marathon, not a sprint. There are many who level "VALIANT grew too fast and that's why it failed" criticisms now want VEI to start publishing. The economic downturn was pretty much unexpected by a lot of parties. This very messageboard has several postings from members cutting back on funnybook purchases due to economic realities. VEI will need more than the hard-core purchasing pamphlets if they are to grow and thrive. This might not be the right time and, if it's not, they're wise to tape the brakes.

Again, actions and results are what matter, NOT unfulfilled predictions. VALIANT *and* DEFIANT both teased fans with things that were in the works and that never materialized. I don't want VEI to follow suit. And, so far, they haven't.

If slow and steady truly wins the race, I'm all in favor of slow and steady.

2) I think that 2009 will be a very good year for VALIANT fans. Those of you who are already mourning them should most likely stop.

[I know that turborip said all of this earlier and better, but I thought it bore repeating]

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:05 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:If slow and steady truly wins the race, I'm all in favor of slow and steady.

Hear, hear!!!

-slym

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:52 pm

bnasty71 wrote:
xodacia81 wrote: Oh, I have considered that and if that is the case, I think it's very unfortunate and wish them the best. But if it isn't economics, I'd like some info on what we can expect this year, even just "hey guys, if everything goes right, we should have our first monthly by December". Generalities that don't betray inside biz practices wouldn't be bad and indeed, an improvement over the crickets we've gotten this fall.

Amen, Brother!!!

OMG! Love the Hugo av., Bnasty.

As for new stuff, does Playing God count possibly a wee bit?

If so, may I pimp it again?

bnasty71 · Post by **bnasty71** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:27 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
As for new stuff, does Playing God count possibly a wee bit?

If so, may I pimp it again?

Playing God definately counts!! Props to all involved. Wish VEI could give us little teasers like this.

......wow, I'm amazed that someone other then me actually knows who HUGO is!

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:45 pm

Pimp away, Hobo. Can't wait for the next installment.

MoonChild · Post by **MoonChild** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:58 pm

I hope they launch something this year as well. It'd be so great to have them put comics out and begin working on video games & toys because of that. I think it does start with reviving the universe so that the general public can see that this is not just another novelty dead universe and investors will take notice and projects like a Universe Wide video game becomes more theasable and you know there will be no money problems once that happens. Video games are not affected by the economy, as funny as that may sound its a fact, people buy games and stay home in tough times. Animated DVD's, Movies, Merchandise, the money is there to be made. Original Hero Stories are a sure shot right now, I see NO risk in doing this the right way and in a major way.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:18 pm

bnasty71 wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
As for new stuff, does Playing God count possibly a wee bit?

If so, may I pimp it again?
Playing God definately counts!! Props to all involved. Wish VEI could give us little teasers like this.

......wow, I'm amazed that someone other then me actually knows who HUGO is!

Used to scar him up as a kid.

bnasty71 · Post by **bnasty71** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:31 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Used to scar him up as a kid.

...As a kid??? Heck, I'm 37 and still scarring him up...

Best toy ever, they sure don't make cool stuff like HUGO anymore.

I think someone should start a new thread..."Best toy they had as a kid" or post it here.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:41 pm

bnasty71 wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Used to scar him up as a kid.

...As a kid??? Heck, I'm 37 and still scarring him up...

Best toy ever, they sure don't make cool stuff like HUGO anymore.

I think someone should start a new thread..."Best toy they had as a kid" or post it here.

You got that funky Beatles wig?

bnasty71 · Post by **bnasty71** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:53 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
You got that funky Beatles wig?

YUP...and an eye patch,bloody bandage,glasses,teeth,warts...the whole 9 yards.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:47 pm

bnasty71 wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
You got that funky Beatles wig?
YUP...and an eye patch,bloody bandage,glasses,teeth,warts...the whole 9 yards.

Soooo cool. Been a long time since I hung with Hugo, such a wicked toy.

Used to cover him with Creepy Crawlers too.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:01 am

What is this Playing God of which you speak?

I don't recall finding it on my lcs rack.

(I keed I keed!)

dino · Post by **dino** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:26 pm

Hi guys, We're still here, and there's some really exciting news that we'll be announcing. The only reason I have refrained from posting anything is that it can often cause more harm than good. But everyone seemed especially restless today, so I thought I may as well jump in this time. I will continue to read, but not be active on these boards for the foreseeable future. Hope everyone had a great holiday. Dino

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:27 pm

dino wrote:Hi guys, We're still here, and there's some really exciting news that we'll be announcing. The only reason I have refrained from posting anything is that it can often cause more harm than good. But everyone seemed especially restless today, so I thought I may as well jump in this time. I will continue to read, but not be active on these boards for the foreseeable future. Hope everyone had a great holiday. Dino

Welcome to the boards!!!

-slym

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:30 pm

dino wrote:Hi guys, We're still here, and there's some really exciting news that we'll be announcing. The only reason I have refrained from posting anything is that it can often cause more harm than good. But everyone seemed especially restless today, so I thought I may as well jump in this time. I will continue to read, but not be active on these boards for the foreseeable future. Hope everyone had a great holiday. Dino

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:34 pm

Hmm...exciting news, eh?

geocarr · Post by **geocarr** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:45 pm

dino wrote:Hi guys, We're still here, and there's some really exciting news that we'll be announcing. The only reason I have refrained from posting anything is that it can often cause more harm than good. But everyone seemed especially restless today, so I thought I may as well jump in this time. I will continue to read, but not be active on these boards for the foreseeable future. Hope everyone had a great holiday. Dino

Welcome to the bored because we haven't heard from you.

dino wrote:We're still here, and there's some really exciting news that we'll be announcing.Dino

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is it? What is it? Huh? Huh?
I can't wait! I really can't wait! I'm so excited, I'm going to pee!

iggy101us · Post by **iggy101us** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:09 pm

Jay Tomio wrote:
dino wrote:Hi guys, We're still here, and there's some really exciting news that we'll be announcing. The only reason I have refrained from posting anything is that it can often cause more harm than good. But everyone seemed especially restless today, so I thought I may as well jump in this time. I will continue to read, but not be active on these boards for the foreseeable future. Hope everyone had a great holiday. Dino
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