Is Rai your favorite Valiant character or title?

myron · Post by **myron** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:37 pm

dave wrote:
myron wrote:no

not even my top 5
what's your top 5 myron?

solar, magnus, gilad, armstrong, archer and then the harbinger kids...the first four are head and shoulders over the others on my list but not necessarily in any order...

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:37 pm

I wonder what my answer is...

-slym

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:39 pm

slym2none wrote:I wonder what my answer is...

-slym

Nightcrawler?

myron · Post by **myron** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:41 pm

jedimarley wrote:
slym2none wrote:I wonder what my answer is...

-slym
Nightcrawler?

*BAMPF*

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:46 pm

jedimarley wrote:
slym2none wrote:I wonder what my answer is...

-slym
Nightcrawler?

Is Rai your favorite Valiant character or title?

VALIANT has a character called Nightcrawler???

-slym

J-Scott-R · Post by **J-Scott-R** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:56 pm

myron wrote:no

not even my top 5

Same here, maybe in my top 10:

1) X-O
2) Gilad
3) A&A
4) Shadowman
5) Harbinger
6) Bloodshot
7) Magnus
8) Solar
9) Ninjak
10) Timewalker
11) Rai

OK definately not the top 10 either, although I do like the first Rai much better than the Future Force one.

Scott

Spagg · Post by **Spagg** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:21 pm

I loved those early Rai issues! Rai wasn't my favorite, but he was definitely up there.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:42 pm

slym2none wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
slym2none wrote:I wonder what my answer is...

-slym
Nightcrawler?

Is Rai your favorite Valiant character or title?
VALIANT has a character called Nightcrawler???

-slym

You really need to pick up some V2 books, you know.

turborip · Post by **turborip** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:48 pm

I find this conversation fascinating in that Rai was either really well liked, or not even on the radar. For the latter folks, is it because of how the character changed between the early appearences to the eventually overhaul in the Future Force era?

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:54 pm

turborip wrote:I find this conversation fascinating in that Rai was either really well liked, or not even on the radar. For the latter folks, is it because of how the character changed between the early appearences to the eventually overhaul in the Future Force era?

The Rai stories were intriguing. I just was never drawn to Rai as a character though. He was a tool of the story, but to me never was the focus.

My favorite Valiant characters (baring in mind I haven't read much beyond Chaos or before Unity)

1. Toyo Harada
2. Aram
3. Master Darque
4. Shakespeare (H.A.R.D Corps)
5. Archer
6. Gil
7. X-O
8. Shadowman
9. Zephyr
10. Solar

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:21 pm

I did not much care for Rai back in the 90s. Even as I've reread it lately, the pre-unity stuff is average at best to me. I haven't read the Rai Unity issues in a very long time though.

Zaphod wrote: My favorite Valiant characters (baring in mind I haven't read much beyond Chaos or before Unity)

1. Toyo Harada
2. Aram
3. Master Darque
4. Shakespeare (H.A.R.D Corps)
5. Archer
6. Gil
7. X-O
8. Shadowman
9. Zephyr
10. Solar

That's a great list! That would be my list as well except remove Shakespeare and insert Magnus and throw Zephyr out and put Sting in. Harada, to me, was the best character in the Valiant universe. He was probably one of the best villains created since the early Batman villains. To me at least.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:47 pm

<--------- You mean this guy? A total bum!

Seriously, X-O has been my favorite since the beginning but Tohru comes in at a close second. Perhaps if Rai’s tenure had been longer it would have tipped the scales in his favor. Definitely a missed opportunity and the first character I would love to see in print again.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:24 am

sanman wrote:<--------- You mean this guy? A total bum!

Seriously, X-O has been my favorite since the beginning but Tohru comes in at a close second. Perhaps if Rai’s tenure had been longer it would have tipped the scales in his favor. Definitely a missed opportunity and the first character I would love to see in print again.

Yeah, his time was way too short. It's a shame we only got a handful of issues with him, but they were the gems of the run, that's for sure.

Rufusharley · Post by **Rufusharley** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:25 am

I once dressed my little brother up as Rai for Halloween back in the day. He must have been only 5 or 6 at the time. He go a kick out of it! We did the whole white makeup with a Red circle on his forehead and everything.

I doubt anyone really knew who he was meant to be though.

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:58 am

J-Scott-R wrote:
myron wrote:no

not even my top 5
Same here, maybe in my top 10:

1) X-O
2) Gilad
3) A&A
4) Shadowman
5) Harbinger
6) Bloodshot
7) Magnus
8) Solar
9) Ninjak
10) Timewalker
11) Rai

OK definately not the top 10 either, although I do like the first Rai much better than the Future Force one.

Scott

wow.

he really missed the top ten-since a and a are two characters, and then you've got the whole harbinger team in there.

i just need to say that anyone who doesn't like rai as their absolute undsiputed favorite obviously wants only dc-lite!

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:41 am

Rufusharley wrote:I once dressed my little brother up as Rai for Halloween back in the day. He must have been only 5 or 6 at the time. He go a kick out of it! We did the whole white makeup with a Red circle on his forehead and everything.

I doubt anyone really knew who he was meant to be though.

Did you take any pics?

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:45 am

i have a pic of my dressed up as bloodshot. it's pretty horrible. imagine geoff the geomancer in bright green pants.

actually, geoff is probably buffer than me.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:48 am

dave wrote:i have a pic of my dressed up as bloodshot. it's pretty horrible. imagine geoff the geomancer in bright green pants.

actually, geoff is probably buffer than me.

Hahahaha

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:53 am

slym2none wrote:I wonder what my answer is...

-slym

when is slym gonna end the suspense?

myron · Post by **myron** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:16 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
sanman wrote:<--------- You mean this guy? A total bum!

Seriously, X-O has been my favorite since the beginning but Tohru comes in at a close second. Perhaps if Rai’s tenure had been longer it would have tipped the scales in his favor. Definitely a missed opportunity and the first character I would love to see in print again.

Yeah, his time was way too short. It's a shame we only got a handful of issues with him, but they were the gems of the run, that's for sure.

that's the main reason I have a hard time putting him into my top 5...

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:15 pm

Zaphod wrote:
slym2none wrote:
jedimarley wrote:
slym2none wrote:I wonder what my answer is...

-slym
Nightcrawler?

Is Rai your favorite Valiant character or title?
VALIANT has a character called Nightcrawler???

-slym
You really need to pick up some V2 books, you know.

What is this "V2" you speak of? Doesn't sound like VALIANT to me...

-slym

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:16 pm

dave wrote:
slym2none wrote:I wonder what my answer is...

-slym
when is slym gonna end the suspense?

Soon... maybe.

-slym

J-Scott-R · Post by **J-Scott-R** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:53 pm

dave wrote:
J-Scott-R wrote:
myron wrote:no

not even my top 5
Same here, maybe in my top 10:

1) X-O
2) Gilad
3) A&A
4) Shadowman
5) Harbinger
6) Bloodshot
7) Magnus
8) Solar
9) Ninjak
10) Timewalker
11) Rai

OK definately not the top 10 either, although I do like the first Rai much better than the Future Force one.

Scott
wow.

he really missed the top ten-since a and a are two characters, and then you've got the whole harbinger team in there.

i just need to say that anyone who doesn't like rai as their absolute undsiputed favorite obviously wants only dc-lite!

Oh wait, I forgot to through in Doctor Mirage and Punx in there at 11 and 12

, but seriously, I'm not about dc-lite, I just never got into the Rai character.

Scott

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:21 am

I liked the original Rai as a character. I thought the Magnus flip books were very well done, but as a series Rai was, IMO, by far the weakest of the Pre Unity books.

As a concept Rai was one of the best VALIANT had, but I would not rank any version of the character in my top 10.