X-O Manowar - the movie???

k_c_collectibles · Post by **k_c_collectibles** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:30 pm

Hey guys,

I was just over at Bob Layton's site and found some interesting stuff. Did you know he wrote treatments for 3 different movies based on Valiant characters. X-O Manowar, Shadowman and Ninjak. Here are the links to the summary of the movies for the X-O and Ninjak. I don't think anyone posted this information before - if they did my apologies.

X-O Manowar
http://www.boblayton.com/Unused/xotreatment.htm

Ninjak
http://www.boblayton.com/ninjaktreatmentr_page.htm

Pretty cool stuff, eh?

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:49 pm

Ya know, this truly baffles me, it does

Movies...based on VALIANT characters

Uhhhhhhhhhhh, can anyone say..IMPOSSIBLE!

It took, what? TWENTY YEARS to get Spider-Man on the big screen, SPIDERMAN!!!

and we think (with ALL due respect, truly) an XO man o war MOVIE could get made?

I honestly don't think ANY Valiant character will EVER have a feature film produced about them, there just isn't the profit to be had

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:55 pm

We did talk a little about this a while back.

viewtopic.php?t=3837&highlight=bob+layton

It is pretty neat info, but I'm still a little perplexed by his choice of Ninjak.

Master Dorque · Post by **Master Dorque** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:43 pm

Peter Parker wrote:Ya know, this truly baffles me, it does

Movies...based on VALIANT characters Uhhhhhhhhhhh, can anyone say..IMPOSSIBLE!

It took, what? TWENTY YEARS to get Spider-Man on the <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp ... g%20screen" onmouseover="window.status='big screen'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">big screen</a>, SPIDERMAN!!!

and we think (with ALL due respect, truly) an XO man o war MOVIE could get made? I honestly don't think ANY Valiant character will EVER have a feature film produced about them, there just isn't the profit to be had

I dunno...there was a Tank Girl movie, and a Rocketeer movie too. Both had their origins in comic books that didn't exactly take the industry by storm. So you never know. We can only hope.

Oh and by the way, I love both the Tank Girl movie, and the Rocketeer film.

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:48 pm

Master Dorque wrote:
Peter Parker wrote:Ya know, this truly baffles me, it does

Movies...based on VALIANT characters Uhhhhhhhhhhh, can anyone say..IMPOSSIBLE!

It took, what? TWENTY YEARS to get Spider-Man on the <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp ... g%20screen" onmouseover="window.status='big screen'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">big screen</a>, SPIDERMAN!!!

and we think (with ALL due respect, truly) an XO man o war MOVIE could get made? I honestly don't think ANY Valiant character will EVER have a feature film produced about them, there just isn't the profit to be had
I dunno...there was a Tank Girl movie, and a Rocketeer movie too. Both had their origins in comic books that didn't exactly take the industry by storm. So you never know. We can only hope. Oh and by the way, I love both the Tank Girl movie, and the Rocketeer film.

Good point. Prior statement retracted

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:37 am

Master Dorque wrote:
Peter Parker wrote:Ya know, this truly baffles me, it does

Movies...based on VALIANT characters Uhhhhhhhhhhh, can anyone say..IMPOSSIBLE!

It took, what? TWENTY YEARS to get Spider-Man on the <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp ... g%20screen" onmouseover="window.status='big screen'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">big screen</a>, SPIDERMAN!!!

and we think (with ALL due respect, truly) an XO man o war MOVIE could get made? I honestly don't think ANY Valiant character will EVER have a feature film produced about them, there just isn't the profit to be had
I dunno...there was a Tank Girl movie, and a Rocketeer movie too. Both had their origins in comic books that didn't exactly take the industry by storm. So you never know. We can only hope. Oh and by the way, I love both the Tank Girl movie, and the Rocketeer film.

Other comics with non-existant comic sales that got turned into movies: Phantom, Shadow, Barb Wire, Blade, Crow, Virus, Mask. I would count Steel, League of Extrodinary Gentleman, From Hell, and Hellboy in there but I'm a little fuzzy on their sales numbers.

DJSpecter · Post by **DJSpecter** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:53 am

If the movie itself is good enough who cares where it was originally concieved? Spiderman was a profitable movie because it was a GOOD MOVIE, not because it was a familiar comic character. A poorly written comic movie will only have a cult following. A good one will have the backing of all the regular critics.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:19 am

DJSpecter wrote:If the movie itself is good enough who cares where it was originally concieved? Spiderman was a profitable movie because it was a GOOD MOVIE, not because it was a familiar comic character. A poorly written comic movie will only have a cult following. A good one will have the backing of all the regular critics.

Exactly. Spiderman was a very well done movie (both of them) and thus the public responded, not just comic book fans.

riftt · Post by **riftt** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:18 am

Todd Luck wrote:
Master Dorque wrote:
Peter Parker wrote:Ya know, this truly baffles me, it does

Movies...based on VALIANT characters Uhhhhhhhhhhh, can anyone say..IMPOSSIBLE!

It took, what? TWENTY YEARS to get Spider-Man on the <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp ... g%20screen" onmouseover="window.status='big screen'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">big screen</a>, SPIDERMAN!!!

and we think (with ALL due respect, truly) an XO man o war MOVIE could get made? I honestly don't think ANY Valiant character will EVER have a feature film produced about them, there just isn't the profit to be had
I dunno...there was a Tank Girl movie, and a Rocketeer movie too. Both had their origins in comic books that didn't exactly take the industry by storm. So you never know. We can only hope. Oh and by the way, I love both the Tank Girl movie, and the Rocketeer film.
Other comics with non-existant comic sales that got turned into movies: Phantom, Shadow, Barb Wire, Blade, Crow, Virus, Mask. I would count Steel, League of Extrodinary Gentleman, From Hell, and Hellboy in there but I'm a little fuzzy on their sales numbers.

the phantom was an incredibly long running sunday comic strip, was it not? And The Shadow was an immensley popular radio serial.

Shadowman project is still somewhat active and at Dimension. Problem is that it is essentially The Crow with a black guy in New Orleans.

SiBill · Post by **SiBill** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:35 am

Sales don't necessarily mean movie profit - or any other form of media for that matter. When Spawn came out, the opening weekend roughly equalled to one ticket for each comic sold monthly(at that time and according to Wizards numbers). Then it disappeared into the 3.99 DVD bins. Solar 1 - 10 was written like a good movie - so who knows. But it's a pipe dream fellows. They should have tried their hands at the Cartoon Network first. Consider "Static" from that little obscure "Static Shock" Milestone Comic. I bought a Subway Kids meal and got a Static Shock doll with my sandwich.

Those books can be had for 5 cents each. They went straight to the dollar bin.

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:15 pm

SiBill wrote:Sales don't necessarily mean movie profit - or any other form of media for that matter. When Spawn came out, the opening weekend roughly equalled to one ticket for each comic sold monthly(at that time and according to Wizards numbers). Then it disappeared into the 3.99 DVD bins. Solar 1 - 10 was written like a good movie - so who knows. But it's a pipe dream fellows. They should have tried their hands at the Cartoon Network first. Consider "Static" from that little obscure "Static Shock" Milestone Comic. I bought a Subway Kids meal and got a Static Shock doll with my sandwich. Those books can be had for 5 cents each. They went straight to the dollar bin.

If you know where I can get them for 5 cent let me know. Milestones have always been hard to find in my area. Very quality books, but I think Static Shock the show has run it's course (it now seems to be in eternal reruns on Cartoon Network). They really never did much with merchadise for the character. Never even heard of the Subway toys. Ofcourse I can't think of any kids meal promotion with lower exposure than Subway.

My point is that I wouldn't point to Static as a example of enduring franchise from an obscure (were the sales really that low?) comic though it atleast it lasted three seasons which is more than I can say for most comic characters.