Never seen this much VALIANT posted in WIZARD before....

DawgPhan · Post by **DawgPhan** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:41 am

greg wrote:
400yrs wrote:I agree. Compared to the other stuff of the 90s, Valiant should retain and gain value much more - outside of maybe McFarlane ASMs and maybe some X-men - than Marvel or DC of the 90s.

Without a strong relaunch though, I just don't see Valiant being much different than EC or maybe some Charltons. They are popular with a select group because they were great books, but can't appeal to the masses due to a lack of current day exposure. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but I'd like to be able to think of Valiant as more than that because it really was the best of the early 90s. Without a well-done relaunch I guess it's up to sites like this to keep the interest stimulated.

Even if everyone else stops caring, I'll be happy to buy NM/Mint pre-Unity
books for $1 each up until the day I die.
It wouldn't bother me one bit if I was the only one in the world who cared...
Remember... Edgar Church was a lunatic, too.

And he died in a home and his family sold his comics while he was still alive to chuck for pennies...I guess we could have the crazy old guy in arkansas pedigree...

greg · Post by **greg** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:44 am

DawgPhan wrote:And he died in a home and his family sold his comics while he was still alive to chuck for pennies...I guess we could have the crazy old guy in arkansas pedigree...

Well, it's not like I can take 'em with me anyway!

riftt · Post by **riftt** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:58 am

EC books have movies, tv shows etc to keep bringing in new fans to discover them. plus tons and tons of reprints.

gowaltrip · Post by **gowaltrip** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:26 pm

DawgPhan wrote:
greg wrote:
400yrs wrote:I agree. Compared to the other stuff of the 90s, Valiant should retain and gain value much more - outside of maybe McFarlane ASMs and maybe some X-men - than Marvel or DC of the 90s.

Without a strong relaunch though, I just don't see Valiant being much different than EC or maybe some Charltons. They are popular with a select group because they were great books, but can't appeal to the masses due to a lack of current day exposure. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but I'd like to be able to think of Valiant as more than that because it really was the best of the early 90s. Without a well-done relaunch I guess it's up to sites like this to keep the interest stimulated.

Even if everyone else stops caring, I'll be happy to buy NM/Mint pre-Unity
books for $1 each up until the day I die.
It wouldn't bother me one bit if I was the only one in the world who cared...
Remember... Edgar Church was a lunatic, too.
And he died in a home and his family sold his comics while he was still alive to chuck for pennies...I guess we could have the crazy old guy in arkansas pedigree...

The Malvern Collection

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:55 pm

I haven't picked up the issue yet.
Does Wizard make any mention to VH2 or VH3 prices?

mrwoogieman · Post by **mrwoogieman** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:02 pm

Well, call me the first victim of the public's right to know, because I was in a shop today and found some nice books, and.....HE PULLED OUT WIZARD TO PRICE THEM!!

400yrs · Post by **400yrs** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:04 pm

mrwoogieman wrote:Well, call me the first victim of the public's right to know, because I was in a shop today and found some nice books, and.....HE PULLED OUT WIZARD TO PRICE THEM!!

D@mn you, Wizzerd

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:06 pm

IT HAS BEGUN :x

Valiant_1 · Post by **Valiant_1** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:40 pm

Dude...that SUCKS!

There actually was a V2 title in the new WIZARD....

Quantum and Woody

...but it was only a couple issues, not the whole series. If there were any other V2 titles listed, I didn't see them.

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:40 pm

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Well, call me the first victim of the public's right to know, because I was in a shop today and found some nice books, and.....HE PULLED OUT WIZARD TO PRICE THEM!!

Am I the only person who lives in an area where the dealers actually price the books with stickers and don't use the current wizard.

Chuck · Post by **Chuck** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:19 pm

WIZARD SUCKS A$$. ALL HYPE AND NO SUBSTANCE.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:18 am

Kinda like Image.

Valiant_1 · Post by **Valiant_1** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:38 am

...or "Desperate Housewives".

Valiant OCD · Post by **Valiant OCD** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:12 am

dellamorte wrote:
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:02 pm Post subject:

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Well, call me the first victim of the public's right to know, because I was in a shop today and found some nice books, and.....HE PULLED OUT WIZARD TO PRICE THEM!!
Am I the only person who lives in an area where the dealers actually price the books with stickers and don't use the current wizard.

I've been traveling to the surrounding LCS's every weekend now for about 5 weeks. I've NEVER had an owner use a guide. Most of them look at me as if I'm nuts becuse I'm looking for Valiants.

I suppose Wizard will create a buzz and mess things up for "hunting" but the vindication thing is a real nice plus. I aggree with Greg. If I was the only one who still was willing to buy Valiants I'd be ok with it. As a matter of fact until about two years ago when I found this site, I WAS the only person who wanted to buy Valiants. (from my perspective of course!!)

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:42 am

X-O HoboJoe wrote:Kinda like Image.

You got that right.

gowaltrip · Post by **gowaltrip** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:00 am

Most of them look at me as if I'm nuts becuse I'm looking for Valiants.

You too!?!!

Thats when I know I got a shot at a getting some for some good prices.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:19 am

gowaltrip wrote:
Most of them look at me as if I'm nuts becuse I'm looking for Valiants.

You too!?!!

Thats when I know I got a shot at a getting some for some good prices.

Yeah, you got to love those moments. They're far less frequent than they used to be though.

jordan silo · Post by **jordan silo** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:59 pm

So it took Wizard a year to publish VALIANT prices on their guides?

Unblessed · Post by **Unblessed** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:12 pm

jordan silo wrote:So it took Wizard a year to publish VALIANT prices on their guides?

No, more like 14 years to get them accurate.

~The Unblessed Soul

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:47 pm

What books will Wizard effect? All issues, key issues, or the premium issues like the golds' and other dealer premiums?

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:54 pm

jordan silo wrote:So it took Wizard a year to publish VALIANT prices on their guides?

I think they listed Magnus and Harbinger starting about a year ago...
but I think those two titles were the only ones listed for most of 2004.

charles_yo · Post by **charles_yo** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:18 pm

greg wrote:In fact, it's hard to think of a time since between the late-1970s and 2000 that Marvel and D.C. were the true "top dogs" as far as key issues go.

4 words for you on this:claremont, byrne, austin, x-men.

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:05 pm

charles_yo wrote:
greg wrote:In fact, it's hard to think of a time since between the late-1970s and 2000 that Marvel and D.C. were the true "top dogs" as far as key issues go.
4 words for you on this:claremont, byrne, austin, x-men.

D'oh! Ya got me!!!

dellamorte · Post by **dellamorte** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:16 pm

Don't forget these two: Miller Daredevil

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:30 pm

jedimarley wrote:To all the Valiant horders out there, SELL,SELL,SELL

Not even CLOSE to being the time to sell, unless you're hoping people do and you pick them up on the cheap.