Rise of Lydia - discussion

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:23 am

Is there any mention in the hc about the owner of Orb Industries?

etos45 · Post by **etos45** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:38 am

ManofTheAtom wrote:Is there any mention in the hc about the owner of Orb Industries?

If I'm reading your question right, then yes... that was a pretty big part of the new story.

cjv · Post by **cjv** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:06 am

I got my books (2 of them) yesterday.

I read the Rise of Lydia story, and thought it was pretty good. They made a conscious effort to try and tie some loose ends together (the Shadowman link). In fact, it seems clear that some of the story was specifically written to try to either answer or eliminate some nagging questions about the origin of Shadowman ("Oh no, not now!").

BTW, do we ever know what happened to Lydia? I can't recall.

I thought it was pretty good, and I liked it more than the Harbinger story, which didn't really seem to answer anything, just bring up more questions.

Chris

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:36 am

cjv wrote:BTW, do we ever know what happened to Lydia? I can't recall.

In Solar, it is shown that Harada captured her and other aliens, whom he kept in a cell in the basement of a hotel that he bought just so he could speak with Solar in private.

Taking pity on the aliens, Solar freed them, but later when he went back to talk to them again he discovered that one of the aliens ate Lydia.

Oddly enough, she tasted like chicken.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:37 am

etos45 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:Is there any mention in the hc about the owner of Orb Industries?
If I'm reading your question right, then yes... that was a pretty big part of the new story.

Was it Doug Freedman? I'm asking about the human owner of Orb... or was Orb created by the aliens and Doug's been retconned?

cjv · Post by **cjv** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:05 am

ManofTheAtom wrote:
cjv wrote:BTW, do we ever know what happened to Lydia? I can't recall.
In Solar, it is shown that Harada captured her and other aliens, whom he kept in a cell in the basement of a hotel that he bought just so he could speak with Solar in private.

Taking pity on the aliens, Solar freed them, but later when he went back to talk to them again he discovered that one of the aliens ate Lydia.

I remember that scene - didn't realize (or at least didn't remember) that it was Lydia.

Oddly enough, she tasted like chicken.

cjv · Post by **cjv** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:05 am

ManofTheAtom wrote:
etos45 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:Is there any mention in the hc about the owner of Orb Industries?
If I'm reading your question right, then yes... that was a pretty big part of the new story.
Was it Doug Freedman? I'm asking about the human owner of Orb... or was Orb created by the aliens and Doug's been retconned?

It was the human owner.

Chris

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:07 am

cjv wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
etos45 wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:Is there any mention in the hc about the owner of Orb Industries?
If I'm reading your question right, then yes... that was a pretty big part of the new story.
Was it Doug Freedman? I'm asking about the human owner of Orb... or was Orb created by the aliens and Doug's been retconned?
It was the human owner.

Chris

And is it Doug? (crosses fingers)

cjv · Post by **cjv** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:17 am

I think so. Don't have the book in front of me.

Chris

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:18 am

cjv wrote:I think so. Don't have the book in front of me.

Chris

That be cool

Dr. Solar · Post by **Dr. Solar** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:01 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
cjv wrote:I think so. Don't have the book in front of me.

Chris
That be cool

Dude?!? Did you just not believe me when I told you it was Harold Polk a few days ago?

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:03 pm

Dr. Solar wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
cjv wrote:I think so. Don't have the book in front of me.

Chris
That be cool
Dude?!? Did you just not believe me when I told you it was Harold Polk a few days ago?

I did, I'm inciting debate... shhhhh

cjv · Post by **cjv** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:40 pm

Harold Polk, Doug Fredman...

All I know it was a human, whom Lydia ended up eating.

Chris

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:51 pm

cjv wrote:Harold Polk, Doug Fredman...

All I know it was a human, whom Lydia ended up eating.

Chris

What a rip off from V

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri May 02, 2008 1:03 pm

**SPOILERS (redundant, because we're in the spoilers category)

**

Harold Polk was the human CEO of Orb Industries.
Orb was already an international conglomerate before Spider Alien infiltration.

Lydia marries Polk, kills him, takes the company and plants her own leaders
in various positions. Orb becomes a front for Spider Alien dealings,
but it didn't start that way.

There is no Doug Friedman (or Freedman) in the story.

Slashes-With-Claws · Post by **Slashes-With-Claws** » Sun May 04, 2008 8:19 pm

I noticed something that seemed odd. In the fight at the very beginning the spider alien wearing the wolf-class armor says “<You are wounded commando! Yield -- and I’ll make your end a swift one!>” followed by in the next panel, “You are no match for my Wolf-Class armor! The prize will be mine-->” This seems to imply that the wolf armor is more powerful then the commando armor, but I thought it was the other way around with commando being second only to Manowar class.

Note: the bolding is as it was in the comic.

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Sun May 04, 2008 8:53 pm

Slashes-With-Claws wrote:I noticed something that seemed odd. In the fight at the very beginning the spider alien wearing the wolf-class armor says “<You are wounded commando! Yield -- and I’ll make your end a swift one!>” followed by in the next panel, “You are no match for my Wolf-Class armor! The prize will be mine-->” This seems to imply that the wolf armor is more powerful then the commando armor, but I thought it was the other way around with commando being second only to Manowar class.

dino · Post by **dino** » Sun May 04, 2008 9:58 pm

Slashes-With-Claws wrote:I noticed something that seemed odd. In the fight at the very beginning the spider alien wearing the wolf-class armor says “<You are wounded commando! Yield -- and I’ll make your end a swift one!>” followed by in the next panel, “You are no match for my Wolf-Class armor! The prize will be mine-->” This seems to imply that the wolf armor is more powerful then the commando armor, but I thought it was the other way around with commando being second only to Manowar class.

Note: the bolding is as it was in the comic.

Commando>Wolf.

He was being cocky

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Sun May 04, 2008 11:11 pm

Good one...

Naw, I can see that. Lotsa dudes brag in a fight... Personally, I let them as it expends energy on their part AND can unsettle one's opponent with your silence.

I only talk $hit, when the guy is on the grown vomiting blood... not really, I'm kidding. I never talk like that after a fight. I'll usually administer first-aid if allowed.

But now, 'poison' on the other hand...

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Mon May 05, 2008 5:18 am

greg wrote:**SPOILERS (redundant, because we're in the spoilers category) **

Harold Polk was the human CEO of Orb Industries.
Orb was already an international conglomerate before Spider Alien infiltration.

Lydia marries Polk, kills him, takes the company and plants her own leaders
in various positions. Orb becomes a front for Spider Alien dealings,
but it didn't start that way.

There is no Doug Friedman (or Freedman) in the story.

There's a picture of Polk in the wiki, now.

greg · Post by **greg** » Mon May 05, 2008 10:47 am

Here's a question for continuity-experts...

How many fingers does Lydia have on each hand?

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Mon May 05, 2008 10:55 am

greg wrote:Here's a question for continuity-experts...

How many fingers does Lydia have on each hand?

http://www.valiantentertainment.com/wik ... :Lydia.jpg

greg · Post by **greg** » Mon May 05, 2008 10:59 am

ManofTheAtom wrote:
greg wrote:Here's a question for continuity-experts...

How many fingers does Lydia have on each hand?
http://www.valiantentertainment.com/wik ... :Lydia.jpg

Is that 4 or 5?

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Mon May 05, 2008 10:59 am

greg wrote:
ManofTheAtom wrote:
greg wrote:Here's a question for continuity-experts...

How many fingers does Lydia have on each hand?
http://www.valiantentertainment.com/wik ... :Lydia.jpg
Is that 4 or 5?

Her pinky's shy.

You know how humans suck their thumb when they're anxious? Well, Spider Aliens eat theirs

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Mon May 05, 2008 11:30 am

I believe it was always 3 fingers and a thumb, no? Or did Lydia have an "extra" finger in the early issues?