Comics that were once hot for silly reasons

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:46 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
greg wrote:
whetteon wrote:Supreme #12, 1st platt work at image.
I thought Prophet #4 (variant) was the 1st Platt work at Image...
which is a book that definitely qualifies for this category.
Superman Special #1 (snicker), where the 'sand creature' was supposed to be one of the 4 new supermen.

Adventures of Superman #466 1st Cyborg Supes.

Vertigo Preview #1 "1st" app Preacher

Swamp Thing #34, just cause of the stolen artwork

Pre-Teen Dirty Gene Kung Fu Kangaroos

Cerebus #147, Gaiman's 24 Hour Comic

Cerebus #161 Bone App

Vengeance of Bane!

Sword of Azrael!

Daredevil #319!

Daredevil #257/Punisher #10

Dethlok #1 (UGH!)

New Mutants #31 1st Strong Guy

Vengeance of Vampirella #1 (This was a $35 book at one time!)

Superman #50 (the engagement issue)

Robin mini #1 (This was a $20 book!)

Aliens, ANY.

Predator, ANY.

Gen 13!!!

Danger Girl

Battlechasers

Red Star

(actually...you know, most of the books on these lists aren't half bad....and 90% of them fall under my 'there was a reason they were hot once..they'll be keys in the long run.)

Drift and myself cried our hearts out when we found a copy last year,

outstanding stuff.

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:58 pm

Ok so i just read this thread from start to end and wanted to add my thoughts.

It seems the list is mainly made up of 90's overhype bollox.

Almost all of these books were hot due to greedy retailers/publishers attempting to meet the demands of the ever growing equally greedy speculator market.

In a time where the next hot thing was needed yesterday, any book with anything remotely interesting was mooted as the next big thing.
Issue 25,50 or 100 to Prismatic foil embossed scratch and sniff Glow in the dark pop up variant cover.

I remember the awful pre order forms from diamond and the ridiculous over selling crap tactics Marvel in particular used when describing title content.

I.e " Note this month in Conan, X-men Villain Kulan Goth returns ! Be sure to stack these next to your X-men books for extra sales "
FFsake!! WTF !!!
My favourite was the Guardians of the Galaxy when Herb Trimpe did his Liefeldesque style. They actually noted this as great selling point and jump on for new readers.

So many examples from books like from New Mutants 86 ( not the first Cable. DUH !!! ) to X-factor 71, which were complete duffers in terms of actual quality.

The list is endless, but the lessons learned are massive.

Genuine hot books are not something you can buy off the import shelf in multiples.

You cannot create a hot book on demand and have it remain hot and worth 5x cover.

This happened 15+ years ago and the entire comic industry nearly died as a result of this mass greed and stupidity.

Real Hot in demand books are created as result of a character 1st appearance or maybe artists/writers 1st pro work or on a book/ at a company.
They can often later become hugely popular and then with more people hunting them down than copies are available a true supply and demand situation arises sending prices up.

Sometimes a small print run of a comic which picks up increasing readership month on month ( Walking Dead, Invincible plus way too many to mention) does this.

Also it may be due to a key storyline upgrading a once less interesting character to a new higher status with a hot writer or artist on a new series.

So other than a few other examples noted here that don't fit into above points made, i hope never to see a similar thread in 15 years years noting hot issues that are no longer hot that were printed between 2009 and 2014.

I realise this information is not unknown to 99% of folks reading this thread, but i thought it might be good to see some reasoning and examples as to why this thread actually exists.

over

The Spider · Post by **The Spider** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:24 pm

Draco wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
greg wrote:
whetteon wrote:Supreme #12, 1st platt work at image.
I thought Prophet #4 (variant) was the 1st Platt work at Image...
which is a book that definitely qualifies for this category.
Superman Special #1 (snicker), where the 'sand creature' was supposed to be one of the 4 new supermen.

Adventures of Superman #466 1st Cyborg Supes.

Vertigo Preview #1 "1st" app Preacher

Swamp Thing #34, just cause of the stolen artwork

Pre-Teen Dirty Gene Kung Fu Kangaroos

Cerebus #147, Gaiman's 24 Hour Comic

Cerebus #161 Bone App

Vengeance of Bane!

Sword of Azrael!

Daredevil #319!

Daredevil #257/Punisher #10

Dethlok #1 (UGH!)

New Mutants #31 1st Strong Guy

Vengeance of Vampirella #1 (This was a $35 book at one time!)

Superman #50 (the engagement issue)

Robin mini #1 (This was a $20 book!)

Aliens, ANY.

Predator, ANY.

Gen 13!!!

Danger Girl

Battlechasers

Red Star

(actually...you know, most of the books on these lists aren't half bad....and 90% of them fall under my 'there was a reason they were hot once..they'll be keys in the long run.)

Drift and myself cried our hearts out when we found a copy last year,

outstanding stuff.

I thought what was funny about it was that they also went and parodied Howard Chaykin's American Flagg as well as being an imitation of the TMNT.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:40 pm

JLThorpe wrote:I remember Infinity Inc. 16 (where Mr. Bones first appeared) was supposedly hot because McFarlane based Spawn's design on him.

Then there's X-O Manowar 4 for the Shadowman appearance (in, what, one or two panels?).

And Green Lantern 47 used to go for a lot, but other than being between issues 46 (Reign of the Superman crossover) and 48 (beginning of Emerald Twilight), was there anything else special about this book?

That book is still "hot" to me.

I thought, and still think, that it is a great way to introduce a new character. I dig me some X-O #4.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:44 pm

The Spider wrote:
Draco wrote:
ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
greg wrote:
whetteon wrote:Supreme #12, 1st platt work at image.
I thought Prophet #4 (variant) was the 1st Platt work at Image...
which is a book that definitely qualifies for this category.
Superman Special #1 (snicker), where the 'sand creature' was supposed to be one of the 4 new supermen.

Adventures of Superman #466 1st Cyborg Supes.

Vertigo Preview #1 "1st" app Preacher

Swamp Thing #34, just cause of the stolen artwork

Pre-Teen Dirty Gene Kung Fu Kangaroos

Cerebus #147, Gaiman's 24 Hour Comic

Cerebus #161 Bone App

Vengeance of Bane!

Sword of Azrael!

Daredevil #319!

Daredevil #257/Punisher #10

Dethlok #1 (UGH!)

New Mutants #31 1st Strong Guy

Vengeance of Vampirella #1 (This was a $35 book at one time!)

Superman #50 (the engagement issue)

Robin mini #1 (This was a $20 book!)

Aliens, ANY.

Predator, ANY.

Gen 13!!!

Danger Girl

Battlechasers

Red Star

(actually...you know, most of the books on these lists aren't half bad....and 90% of them fall under my 'there was a reason they were hot once..they'll be keys in the long run.)

Drift and myself cried our hearts out when we found a copy last year,

outstanding stuff.

I thought what was funny about it was that they also went and parodied Howard Chaykin's American Flagg as well as being an imitation of the TMNT.

And TMNT was a parody of Miller's Daredevil. Go figure.

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:48 pm

JLThorpe wrote:I remember Infinity Inc. 16 (where Mr. Bones first appeared) was supposedly hot because McFarlane based Spawn's design on him.

Huh. I've never heard of that before. Interesting!

Then there's X-O Manowar 4 for the Shadowman appearance (in, what, one or two panels?).

And Green Lantern 47 used to go for a lot, but other than being between issues 46 (Reign of the Superman crossover) and 48 (beginning of Emerald Twilight), was there anything else special about this book?

No, it was just "underordered."

JLThorpe · Post by **JLThorpe** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:49 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
JLThorpe wrote:I remember Infinity Inc. 16 (where Mr. Bones first appeared) was supposedly hot because McFarlane based Spawn's design on him.
Huh. I've never heard of that before. Interesting!

Yeah, some street vendor in NY was selling it for a lot of money and gave that as the reason. This was around 1998, I think. Don't know if it was just him or if other people thought that as well.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:26 pm

BTW, this is a cool post.... I am glad that it was bumped. Good read.

maraxusofkeld · Post by **maraxusofkeld** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:49 pm

I may have missed it but any of the Gen13 books were on the wizard top 10 for a super long time.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:09 pm

Green lantern 46 was hot its self for a long time now a quater book

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:51 pm

superman-prime wrote:Green lantern 46 was hot its self for a long time now a quater book

I think GL #46 has some legs as part of the whole "Return of Superman" deal, though.....packaged as part of that, I think it does well.

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:11 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
superman-prime wrote:Green lantern 46 was hot its self for a long time now a quater book
I think GL #46 has some legs as part of the whole "Return of Superman" deal, though.....packaged as part of that, I think it does well.

I always thought this one was the harder of the parts to get and also a damn good read too.

We still get £3.50 here.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:23 pm

Gl 46 was a great read just overpriced it got up to 30 bucks in dallas at the time
how bout superman 203 and 4

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:00 am

superman-prime wrote:Gl 46 was a great read just overpriced it got up to 30 bucks in dallas at the time
how bout superman 203 and 4

$30. Deary me things did go bad didnt they !!!!

Superman 203 and 204 are classic example of 90's overhype if ever i saw one.
Glad it stood out enough for everyone to back away and not make similar mistakes since.

Phew

BloodOfHeroes · Post by **BloodOfHeroes** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:18 am

Anyone hoarding the first appearance of "Screen" in HARBINGER?

What if he appears in the Harby movie and becomes the breakout character of the film?

ZephyrWasHOT!! · Post by **ZephyrWasHOT!!** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:00 pm

Draco wrote:
Superman 203 and 204 are classic example of 90's overhype if ever i saw one.
Glad it stood out enough for everyone to back away and not make similar mistakes since.

Phew

Psssst....Supes 203 and 204 came out in 2004.....pass it on....

Draco · Post by **Draco** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:14 pm

ZephyrWasHOT!! wrote:
Draco wrote:
Superman 203 and 204 are classic example of 90's overhype if ever i saw one.
Glad it stood out enough for everyone to back away and not make similar mistakes since.

Phew

Psssst....Supes 203 and 204 came out in 2004.....pass it on....

HAHAHA.

well ok, ill elaborate then shall i you wily old trickster you !!!

Superman 203 & 204 were a classic example of the 90's hype rearing its ugly head again and im glad it stood out enough for everyone to back away and not make similar mistakes since.

Hows that then?

Better ?

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:52 pm

BloodOfHeroes wrote:Anyone hoarding the first appearance of "Screen" in HARBINGER?

What if he appears in the Harby movie and becomes the breakout character of the film?

I was surprised that they killed him in #25. I thought that he could have taken over the team after Sting...... but.... oh well.

We got the "New Harbingers".