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No, no, Mile High doesn't have a pedigree "section"....
Going back to that Mile-High-Collection-Find story we were discussing here a few days ago, Mile High has unEarthed a few collections that are high grade compilations. A lot of these were sent out into the market and then subsequently CGC'd and recorded on the CGC bar code and verified using the original Mile High Pedigree certs. To tell you the truth, I don't think that much of the Mile High or Mile High II collections are actually still with Mile High (although that's the pedigree title of those books).
I have a few pedigree books, and am looking at some Don Rosa stuff as my next addition.
I can tell you this too:
Pedigree's are fantastic for the history involved in the books, that once documented will never leave the pedigree. However, Pedigree's used to serve the markerstone for high grade books that I actually believe is now usurped by CGC. What this means is that many pedigree books that were once thought to be near mints are actually graded as VF+ by CGC, actually sort of diminishing their grade from the pedigree cert (note that the certs don't grade the book, but there was a degree of assumption about ped. books in the past).
If what I'm saying is true (and I believe it to be very true), then pedigree books will maintain their prestige and value, but only if the collecting public desire them for their history and not their presumed grade because of companies like CGC. Pedigree books are still typically high grade book, but now the motivation to buy them is the history. Note that there are many 9.8 Iron Man 129s that are not pedigree while some of the pedigree books from the Mile High II find are actually between 9.2 and 9.6. You can buy a higher grade book, but nowadays the pedigree lands you the find, the story, the history and to a degree... the grade.
Finally, for the record I'm not a pedigree hunter or anything. I have a few, and I have beliefs on either side of the ocean about pedigree books.
Going back to that Mile-High-Collection-Find story we were discussing here a few days ago, Mile High has unEarthed a few collections that are high grade compilations. A lot of these were sent out into the market and then subsequently CGC'd and recorded on the CGC bar code and verified using the original Mile High Pedigree certs. To tell you the truth, I don't think that much of the Mile High or Mile High II collections are actually still with Mile High (although that's the pedigree title of those books).
I have a few pedigree books, and am looking at some Don Rosa stuff as my next addition.
I can tell you this too:
Pedigree's are fantastic for the history involved in the books, that once documented will never leave the pedigree. However, Pedigree's used to serve the markerstone for high grade books that I actually believe is now usurped by CGC. What this means is that many pedigree books that were once thought to be near mints are actually graded as VF+ by CGC, actually sort of diminishing their grade from the pedigree cert (note that the certs don't grade the book, but there was a degree of assumption about ped. books in the past).
If what I'm saying is true (and I believe it to be very true), then pedigree books will maintain their prestige and value, but only if the collecting public desire them for their history and not their presumed grade because of companies like CGC. Pedigree books are still typically high grade book, but now the motivation to buy them is the history. Note that there are many 9.8 Iron Man 129s that are not pedigree while some of the pedigree books from the Mile High II find are actually between 9.2 and 9.6. You can buy a higher grade book, but nowadays the pedigree lands you the find, the story, the history and to a degree... the grade.
Finally, for the record I'm not a pedigree hunter or anything. I have a few, and I have beliefs on either side of the ocean about pedigree books.
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Eh.... like I said, it's about the history and not the grade. Furthermore, the idea of the pedigree doesn't revolve around any single book and rather around the idea that a large group of comics was found all of them in very high grade indicating that the collection was carefully selected when originally bought and then subsequently carefully cared for.cobra_commander wrote:There was a huge lot of Don Rosa books earlier last year...so how much nicer is the Mile High pedigree than you would expect from a non pedigree book in a similar grade?
So what it boils down to is that it's likely that I have an Iron Man 129 that is 9.8 somewhere, but this Pedigreed 9.6 (still a good sample) is from a noted collection of comics that as a whole is more significant than most other collections of comics.
Once you break the pedigree collection up it becomes about the sample of the pedigree more than the entire collection itself. Again it's the story behind it.
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You should see his Spirit collection.cobra_commander wrote:You had a Batman 7 that looked like that? Wow, why did you sell?MagnusRF wrote:Sweet merciful crap!
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They're all nice, but you've got a 'Tec #35?!?!?! The hypo cover?!?!?!
Did that Batman #7 come from my corner of the state? It looks like my old copy?


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You 2 are a very bad influence...very badX-O HoboJoe wrote:You should see his Spirit collection.cobra_commander wrote:You had a Batman 7 that looked like that? Wow, why did you sell?MagnusRF wrote:Sweet merciful crap!
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They're all nice, but you've got a 'Tec #35?!?!?! The hypo cover?!?!?!
Did that Batman #7 come from my corner of the state? It looks like my old copy?Yowza!

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You know you're in trouble when Megatron calls you a bad influence . . .cobra_commander wrote:You 2 are a very bad influence...very badX-O HoboJoe wrote:You should see his Spirit collection.cobra_commander wrote:You had a Batman 7 that looked like that? Wow, why did you sell?MagnusRF wrote:Sweet merciful crap!
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They're all nice, but you've got a 'Tec #35?!?!?! The hypo cover?!?!?!
Did that Batman #7 come from my corner of the state? It looks like my old copy?Yowza!

I DO NOT EAT, DRINK OR ABSORB SOULS, DAMMIT!
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I was desperate for cash and it really helped. I'm still sick every time I see that cover.cobra_commander wrote:You had a Batman 7 that looked like that? Wow, why did you sell?MagnusRF wrote:Sweet merciful crap!
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They're all nice, but you've got a 'Tec #35?!?!?! The hypo cover?!?!?!
Did that Batman #7 come from my corner of the state? It looks like my old copy?

Mmmmmm.....Eisnery goodness......X-O HoboJoe wrote:You should see his Spirit collection.cobra_commander wrote:You had a Batman 7 that looked like that? Wow, why did you sell?MagnusRF wrote:Sweet merciful crap!
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They're all nice, but you've got a 'Tec #35?!?!?! The hypo cover?!?!?!
Did that Batman #7 come from my corner of the state? It looks like my old copy?Yowza!


Classic and classy stuff all the way around. You can't go wrong, especially with the babe covers!Jay Tomio wrote:I'm starting to dig those as well. I have made the Quality line another focus.MagnusRF wrote:Mmmmmm.....Eisnery goodness......X-O HoboJoe wrote:You should see his Spirit collection.cobra_commander wrote:You had a Batman 7 that looked like that? Wow, why did you sell?MagnusRF wrote:Sweet merciful crap!
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They're all nice, but you've got a 'Tec #35?!?!?! The hypo cover?!?!?!
Did that Batman #7 come from my corner of the state? It looks like my old copy?Yowza!
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