VIP ASHCAN AT SDCC! Prepare to be SHOCKED.

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:56 pm

It seems someone bought 4 of these and they already have them on Ebay already look at the BIN and look at the shipping he's still getting that $40 price....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Valiant-AshcanSan-D ... dZViewItem

That said who's going to bite?

-Brian

ManofTheAtom · Post by **ManofTheAtom** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:59 pm

betterthanezra wrote:That said who's going to bite?

Careful, Daniel Jackson might think that you're threatening to bite someone and edit your post.

You must cooperate and keep the language as bland as possible.

After today colorful language, slang, and humor are not accepted in Daniel Jackson's "VALIANTfans.com"

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:01 pm

betterthanezra wrote:Here is that Deathmate picture in the Ashcan of Crap....

-Brian

that is interesting. Would Image not own part of the trademark for Deathmate. Or this would probably fall into the "they have not produced a Deathmate comic in X number of years, so it is up for grabs" clause

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:01 pm

ManofTheAtom wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:That said who's going to bite?
Careful, Daniel Jackson might think that you're threatening to bite someone and edit your post.

You must cooperate and keep the language as bland as possible.

After today colorful language, slang, and humor are not accepted in Daniel Jackson's "VALIANTfans.com"

I'll keep that in mind...

-Brian

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:01 pm

how can they sell it for less then the price at SD ??hummm

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:02 pm

superman-prime wrote:how can they sell it for less then the price at SD ??hummm

The dealer that was selling it said that he was making less then $5 dollars per book he sold of it.....so he could still be making a few dollars on it..

-Brian

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:03 pm

damn...look at that shipping.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:06 pm

what a rip flat rate is 8 here for around 40 b&b comics

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:08 pm

betterthanezra wrote:
<img src=http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/ ... uff057.jpg width=500></img>

-Brian

Wait a minute! That looks like an ex-girlfriend of mine. Does this mean that I can sue* because I did her before vip did?

*Her name wasn't Sue.

Zaphod · Post by **Zaphod** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:46 pm

VIP (and VEI for that matter) aren't doing this for the hardcore Valiant fan.

This is all to draw in the speculators. Units shipped. I mean I gotta admit, since the future of these characters is up in the air the prospect of owning the Ashcan is tempting if only because of the limited print run.

It is that temptation VIP is hoping to bank on, to gather momentum.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:51 pm

Second_Death wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
<img src=http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/ ... uff057.jpg width=500></img>

-Brian
Wait a minute! That looks like an ex-girlfriend of mine. Does this mean that I can sue* because I did her before vip did?

*Her name wasn't Sue.

**was it Kim?

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:53 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Second_Death wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
<img src=http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/ ... uff057.jpg width=500></img>

-Brian
Wait a minute! That looks like an ex-girlfriend of mine. Does this mean that I can sue* because I did her before vip did?

*Her name wasn't Sue.
**was it Kim?

***

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:54 pm

Second_Death wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
Second_Death wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:
<img src=http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b165/ ... uff057.jpg width=500></img>

-Brian
Wait a minute! That looks like an ex-girlfriend of mine. Does this mean that I can sue* because I did her before vip did?

*Her name wasn't Sue.
**was it Kim?
***

LOOK OUT! SHE PEES ON COMICS!

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:56 pm

just go back to posting hit chicks in topic oblivion (good for the heart ) i would but i cant figure out the posting picks thing yet lol (i feel like a tard)

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:58 pm

betterthanezra wrote:It seems someone bought 4 of these and they already have them on Ebay already look at the BIN and look at the shipping he's still getting that $40 price....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Valiant-AshcanSan-D ... dZViewItem

That said who's going to bite?

-Brian

somebody actually bought one of these pieces of crap!

I guess they think it will be a collector's item.

superman-prime · Post by **superman-prime** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:59 pm

you should email the buyer and let him know its garbage lol

Cyberstrike · Post by **Cyberstrike** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:06 pm

MProyas wrote:
betterthanezra wrote:Here is that Deathmate picture in the Ashcan of Crap....

-Brian
that is interesting. Would Image not own part of the trademark for Deathmate. Or this would probably fall into the "they have not produced a Deathmate comic in X number of years, so it is up for grabs" clause

One would think that Deathmate would be owned by 4 companies:
Valiant, DC (since now they own Wildstorm's characters), Top Cow (IIRC Silvertri had some of his characters in it) and Rob Liefled's company (whatever he calls this day of week).

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:19 pm

Geomancer wrote:
Todd Luck wrote:I was going to quote the stuff but this thread has become too long and complicated, so I'll just I agree with all that intelligent, thoughtful stuff Magnusr posted about Joe and the community (on page 11, I think) and congratulations to MOTA for getting the thread back on topic
Thank you for your post! It was a time saver for me. I was trying to make my way through it from beginning to end, but there was so much "filler" i had to stop. My only regret are the genuine, heartfelt, intelligent posts I must have missed. (At least I read the Magnusr posts -- which were on page 11)

Yeah, took me all lunch to read most of the Petrilak tangent. I keep thinking these long threads need a table of contents or Cliff's Notes at the very least

jmpet · Post by **jmpet** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:19 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote: Joe, I was unaware you are living with this condition and apologize for the things I've posted towards you. Given this information, everything clicked into place as the explanation behind what happened between you and ZWH in 2000 and why it's very hard for you to "revisit" any part of that time. I applaud the fact that you've managed to get as much done as you have in making things right. The jarring shock of divorce is hard for almost anyone -- I can only imagine what it's like for someone with Asperger's.
To the rest of my forum-brothers; please take this condition into account before taking umbrage at something jmpet posts. The brain of the Asperger's paint (as I am assuming I understand it) is wired differently, so expect and account for it. I'm in no way advocating ignoring jmpet, just be prepared to have a special context for his posts when you read them.

Yes- divorce is especially hard for an Aspie, mostly because they really never understand why.

However, I brought Aspies up in the first place because one thing Aspies can do is spot other Aspies, and I'm pretty certain Zephyr is one. Stephen Colbert is definetly an Aspie, so is Bill Gates and Albert Einstein (and the list goes on). Being an Aspie and not knowing it makes it doubly difficult and I think this is part of Zephyr's superego.

Mind blindness is a big thing for Aspies- it's when there's so much going on in your head you become unable to give a proper response. But mostly it's not understanding subtleties- like all the CC stuff.

One in 200 people is an Aspie- that means there are tens of millions of Aspies all over the world. Asperger's is also called the "nerd syndrome" because Aspies like to collect stuff and comics are a big one. I'm willing to bet there's a few Aspies in this forum.

jmpet · Post by **jmpet** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:20 pm

Brother J wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
jmpet wrote: That being said, this doesn't sound like something "the vast majority of collectors" have, it sounds more like a serious disorder to me.

I wouldn't call it a serious disorder- I can walk and drive and swim and think- most Aspies have above normal intelligence... we're just nerds.

jmpet · Post by **jmpet** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:24 pm

X-O HoboJoe wrote: That's what scares me. Does it come down to an informed judgement call or a coin flip?

I think it comes down to whoever put out the best Valiant comics.

cjv · Post by **cjv** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:28 pm

jmpet wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote: That's what scares me. Does it come down to an informed judgement call or a coin flip?
I think it comes down to whoever put out the best Valiant comics.

That is key.

The thing is, the only thing that might be "Valiant" about a VIP comic is the name. They can't use the actual characters, powers, history, likeness, or anything like that.

VEI can use them, however, even if they can't use the name "Eternal Warrior" or "Bloodshot".

So as Greg says, what is Valiant - the names without the plot/characters/history, or the plot/characters/history without the names?

Chris

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:05 pm

jmpet wrote:
Brother J wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:
jmpet wrote: That being said, this doesn't sound like something "the vast majority of collectors" have, it sounds more like a serious disorder to me.
I wouldn't call it a serious disorder- I can walk and drive and swim and think- most Aspies have above normal intelligence... we're just nerds.

I have had a few students with asperger's syndrome (and my wife also had a few), I would not call them all nerds. The disease manifested itelf in different ways in each kid (even in the twins, both of them had AS). They were hard working and polite students, just a bit challenged in different areas, often it was picking up on physical social cues.

I know you know AS better than I, but not all are nerds, and I felt I had to stick up for the kids that I had. In fact, one of the twins was down right cool in 8th grade, and that is saying something.

jmpet · Post by **jmpet** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:07 pm

I don't consider nerd a bad word.

Brother J · Post by **Brother J** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:08 pm

jmpet wrote:I don't consider nerd a bad word.

Toby Radloff is the coolest nerd going...