Archer and Armstrong #0..what happened to these two???

muzzsucker · Post by **muzzsucker** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:05 pm

I never thought about it before but we don't find out what happened to these two. did they get crispy fried?

bamaphilosopher · Post by **bamaphilosopher** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:11 pm

Yes, I think so--the parents burned the house down to destroy the evidence of those two, and of course Obadiah, too, though he escaped. I gather from that panel that they're dead by the time Obadiah enters the room, though that's not explicit and admittedly they could be unconscious. You're right to point this out, though--another writer could pick up those characters again and claim they weren't dead, and since we didn't see them die and it was only inferred, the writer could get away with it. Come to think of it, it would be cool to have them go after Archer as revenge for what his parents did to them. But still, I think that the issue implies they're dead.

As for the parents, of course, Obadiah finds out they're in jail when he gets back.

I always thought it'd be a cool story for him to confront his parents again, but they never did pick up on that.

Thomas Crown · Post by **Thomas Crown** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:38 pm

bamaphilosopher wrote:Yes, I think so--the parents burned the house down to destroy the evidence of those two, and of course Obadiah, too, though he escaped. I gather from that panel that they're dead by the time Obadiah enters the room, though that's not explicit and admittedly they could be unconscious. You're right to point this out, though--another writer could pick up those characters again and claim they weren't dead, and since we didn't see them die and it was only inferred, the writer could get away with it. Come to think of it, it would be cool to have them go after Archer as revenge for what his parents did to them. But still, I think that the issue implies they're dead.

As for the parents, of course, Obadiah finds out they're in jail when he gets back.

I always thought it'd be a cool story for him to confront his parents again, but they never did pick up on that.

This would be one of the craziest stories ever. It would be so dope if he just slaughtered them. The one and only time he becomes dark. Option 2 would be to for him to walk away when they are almost dead but then Armstrong kills them without Archer knowing. I would have wanted this to be 7 or 10 years after A&A #1, but since we are almost 15 years later this would probably be an awesome way to start the series again.

I just started reading A&A again and the one thing that did bother me was that there was too much Sect in the first 8. Armstrong thinks everyone and there mom are Sect (even though they are). Let's see what happens as I keep reading.

Second_Death · Post by **Second_Death** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:07 am

I always wondered when his parents would make another appearance in the series.

A&A #0 is probably still my favorite single Valiant comic.

inmyblood · Post by **inmyblood** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:47 pm

One of my favorite Valiant issues is A&A #3. Their first issue IMO. Right after UNITY, yuckk! That's the issue when they started their crazy adventures.

Elveen · Post by **Elveen** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:41 pm

Second_Death wrote:I always wondered when his parents would make another appearance in the series.

A&A #0 is probably still my favorite single VALIANT comic.

it's mine too.....

IanAlexavier · Post by **IanAlexavier** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:46 pm

I recently read through the series, I enjoyed it.. too much in the Valiant U regarding sexual crimes though.. seemed like there was same issue swith the writers regarding that sort of thing.. I regress..

A&A is a great book, so much more to explore in that title..

Archers past, Armstrongs past, Armstongs satchel, all sorts of good stuff..

slym2none · Post by **slym2none** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:53 pm

ianalexavier wrote: Armstongs satchel

You mean, his magical leather pouch?

-slym (is asking for it)

Rufusharley · Post by **Rufusharley** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:59 pm

slym2none wrote:
ianalexavier wrote: Armstongs satchel
You mean, his magical leather pouch?

His "satchel 0' treats"

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:21 am

I think the dude just got fired from some big evangelical church.

cobra_commander · Post by **cobra_commander** » Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:03 am

ianalexavier wrote:too much in the VALIANT U regarding sexual crimes though..

You mean the number of people that lined up and *SQUEE* VALIANT after Shooter left?

siren3-4 · Post by **siren3-4** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:38 am

ianalexavier wrote:too much in the VALIANT U regarding sexual crimes though..

What other sexual crimes were there ?

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:04 pm

siren3-4 wrote:
ianalexavier wrote:too much in the VALIANT U regarding sexual crimes though..
What other sexual crimes were there ?

He's probably referring to Albert and Erica, technically it's not his mother, but still....

bamaphilosopher · Post by **bamaphilosopher** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:05 am

depluto, you're being generous to yourself in your pic.

I guess you win the Battle of the Bulge.

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Archer and Armstrong #0..what happened to these two???

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