Visitor and Peter Stanchek

Killer Shrike · Post by **Killer Shrike** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:45 pm

Quick question. Was the Visitor really Peter Stanchek? I cant remember what his deal was.

Thanx!

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:51 pm

Killer Shrike wrote:Quick question. Was the Visitor really Peter Stanchek? I cant remember what his deal was.

Thanx!

***************** SPOILER **********************

yes, they are one and the same.

Killer Shrike · Post by **Killer Shrike** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:57 pm

Thanx! I thought so but couldnt remember for sure.

Will · Post by **Will** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:06 am

Along these same lines, I just reread the Visitor series a couple of weeks ago (includeing VVVU #1+2) and the Visitor does some decidedly non-Omega Harbinger-like things. Sure I'm using Harada and Sting as my measuring stick, but the V-man phases through walls, recreates his Batcave from nothingness, and a whole host of other things that fall well outside the psionics/telekinesis/telepathy game. I'm fairly sure this is never explained, but I thought I would ask the board for thoughts.

(It did occur to me that this is Pete years in the future, and that these powers may have been learned with time, but that excuse doesn't hold water because Harada is fifty something and he sure can't do things that the Visitor does...)

(It also occurs to me that certain board members have a thing about not having a spoiler warning. It's funny that we never hear from anyone who has actually had anything spoiled, rather we hear from Big Brother, but just to appease Big Brother: The above comments may contain material considered "Spoilers" by certain members of the board. If you feel that was the case, please unread the above post. Thanks!)

Killer Shrike · Post by **Killer Shrike** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:28 pm

I thought the "Omega Power" got redefined at some point to basically be all known Harbinger Powers.

The base recreation would still be pretty inexplicable however. I might have to go dig out some comics and reread Visitor at some point. Unfortunately I dont have the full run though.

skiw · Post by **skiw** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:59 pm

Killer Shrike wrote:I thought the "Omega Power" got redefined at some point to basically be all known Harbinger Powers.

The base recreation would still be pretty inexplicable however. I might have to go dig out some comics and reread Visitor at some point. Unfortunately I dont have the full run though.

Don't worry, you are not missing much.

Skiw

DJSpecter · Post by **DJSpecter** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 3:15 pm

My understanding is that it was one up from the stage where Pete was at on issue 5 of being able to help remind a person how to control his power, as long as pete himself new the process of control. Similarly, any available other Harbinger, could teach an omega the power by having the omega in his head while starting his power. So technically speaking, if there were other Harbinger's that self popped or whatever they would be able to throw the omegas for a loop... untill they got into his mind.

-Dave

Zero_UK · Post by **Zero_UK** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 10:33 am

Killer Shrike wrote:Quick question. Was the Visitor really Peter Stanchek? I cant remember what his deal was.

Thanx!

I was disappointed when I found out that he was Stanchek. It would have been much cooler if he really was from another planet (or dimension). Further stories could have featured his place of origin.

Zero

Glitch Please · Post by **Glitch Please** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:47 pm

i guess that giant "OMEGA" sign on his chest was supposed to be a hint.

Glitch Please · Post by **Glitch Please** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:51 pm

Wait so Peter was both "the Visitor" AND "the Harbinger"?

*confused*

ack. i guess i'll just have to hunt those issues down.

Will · Post by **Will** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:32 pm

I think that I must have been one of the seven people on Earth who liked the Visitor. He was introduced nicely, mentioned here and there in a few issues of Dr. Mirage, then seen in a few pannels of the Chaos Effect, and then introduced in the very well written Visitor vs. The Valiant Universe. Granted, while half of the issues were him fighting the Harbinger (just killer Wolverine/Sabretooth-esque slugfests), the other half--where Visitor takes on the Men in Black--was not quite cool. Nonetheless,

**Spoiler**

it's a fitting end to the "Where did Pete go?" question as well as a very nice series about just how far we would go to right wrongs in our past? I thought it was somehow poetic the way it wraps up in the end.

Just because I don't remember: Is Pete seen anywhere else post Harbinger #25 as either Sting/The Harbinger/ or The Visitor?

DJSpecter · Post by **DJSpecter** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:04 pm

He harasses, as the harbinger, the new renegades (oops spoiler) towards the end of the harbinger series.

-Dave

Todd Luck · Post by **Todd Luck** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:54 am

Glitch Please wrote:i guess that giant "OMEGA" sign on his chest was supposed to be a hint.

Not to mention:

He's pretty much wearing Sting's outfit with gloves, cape, and a mask added.

He's got Sting's powers.

He fights Harada.

There's wasn't a real good list suspects who were missing in the Valiant Universe. Who else was he going to be? Armstong on Slimfast? Flamingo with a sex change?

That bizare temporal hitch hiking future Sting did in the Harbinger Wars in Timewalker practically screamed set up for something.

Anyway...

I never even saw the series and I just figured it out based on the various images and info that floated around about the character and the Harbinger Wars. Maybe the series itself did something to make it less obvious or supply red harings but I never got the point of the "mystery" anyway.

If the series had dropped the "who is Visitor?" stuff once it began and marketed itself as a way to experience the Valiant Universe from someone who lived through all those events in Rai 0 we were all dieing to find out about, I might have bought it. Rai 0 the series in a way. That I would've bought.

tbrezz · Post by **tbrezz** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:41 pm

Well he is from the future perhaps it was the beginings of the molmachs used by the Psi Lords (who were the Hard Corps in Pete's time) that he telepathicaly commanded to rebuild the base. And they also mention him disapearing in Rai 0 at some point in time Which at the time was asumed to be after the Harada fight but with the visitor series we know he was hitchhiking through time. Just lucky he didn't kill the Harbinger what a mess that would have been..... Just like the Marvel Universe

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