Finally got a Valiant Cover - Quesada Solar!

Brett · Post by **Brett** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:43 pm

I finally managed to pick up an awesome Valiant cover - Joe Quesada's Solar 29 (the Valiant Vision issue). I actually think it's the best Solar cover that Joe did. I just happened to find it mixed in with a bunch of bronze age Marvel art at a dealer table this weekend in Philly.

Check it out:

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:55 pm

Wow! Very nice!
I like that it features half of the original style Solar with the other half the Destroyer Solar.
Yes, probably one of Joe Q's best!
DAN

betterthanezra · Post by **betterthanezra** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:56 pm

Very Nice cover!

Certainly one of Joes Best Valiant covers.

-Brian

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:01 pm

Nice find.

Eric Jackson · Post by **Eric Jackson** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:18 pm

that is sweet. I remember buying that issue. Still love the cover!

greg · Post by **greg** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:27 pm

Brett wrote:I just happened to find it mixed in with a bunch of bronze age Marvel art at a dealer table this weekend in Philly.

Great job!

ibreakhorses · Post by **ibreakhorses** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:55 pm

I've always loved that cover!

childres · Post by **childres** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:00 am

daydreamscomics · Post by **daydreamscomics** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:22 am

nice pick up

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:23 am

Very nice.

Would you care to share the price you paid?

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:43 am

x-omatic wrote:Very nice.
Would you care to share the price you paid?

Ditto

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:32 am

Brett wrote:I just happened to find it mixed in with a bunch of bronze age Marvel art at a dealer table this weekend in Philly.

Glad to see that you got rewarded for searching carefully. Thanks for sharing.

/Magnus

Brett · Post by **Brett** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:16 am

Thanks guys! I paid $600 for it, so it wasn't an absolute steal (even though I found it in a really random place). I guess it's tough to get a cheap cover from a big name, even if it is Valiant

I'm really happy with the piece and will be getting it framed shortly.

Brett · Post by **Brett** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:25 am

One strange item - Taped to the back of the cover is a photocopy of Joe Q's original pencils before Palmiotti inked them. My first thought was that the cover was lightboxed (Quesada's pencils photocopied and inked by Palmiotti), but after a little close inspection, there is clearly real pencil under the inks (and poking out in certain spots).

All the black areas with stars have the letters BWS written in them on the photocopy (there are about 10 instances of this). Obviously, the first thing that popped into my head is that Barry did the stars and space, but that seems really menial for him.

Any body know:
a: Why there is a photocopy of the pencils on the back?
b: What would BWS could stand for other than the obvious?

marvel1 · Post by **marvel1** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:44 am

Short hand for BLACK WITH STARS.
When penciling a cover or page most artist skip filling in the art with black and just write in BWS. Every inker know what that means and VOILA!!!
A space field is born!
The art could have been lightboxed, Jimmy may have lightly pencilled in the areas that he wasnt sure of or its just attached so a pencilled version
would exist.Who knows.
Great piece though.
mac

Brett · Post by **Brett** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:07 am

marvel1 wrote:Short hand for BLACK WITH STARS.
When penciling a cover or page most artist skip filling in the art with black and just write in BWS. Every inker know what that means and VOILA!!!
A space field is born!
The art could have been lightboxed, Jimmy may have lightly pencilled in the areas that he wasnt sure of or its just attached so a pencilled version
would exist.Who knows.
Great piece though.
mac

Ha! That makes sense. I dont think it was lightboxed though as there are other markings on the piece that I dont think would be there on a lightboxed cover.

magnusr · Post by **magnusr** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:58 am

Brett wrote:Ha! That makes sense. I dont think it was lightboxed though as there are other markings on the piece that I dont think would be there on a lightboxed cover.

Valiant art very often comes with a copy of the pencils (though that for some reason is more common for interiour pages). The risk of it being lightboxed is small.

/Magnus

PS, it would be nice to see the pencils as well.

Brett · Post by **Brett** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:32 pm

magnusr wrote:
Brett wrote:Ha! That makes sense. I dont think it was lightboxed though as there are other markings on the piece that I dont think would be there on a lightboxed cover.
Valiant art very often comes with a copy of the pencils (though that for some reason is more common for interiour pages). The risk of it being lightboxed is small.

/Magnus

PS, it would be nice to see the pencils as well.

Thanks for the info. I'll post the pencils tonight when I'm home from work.

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:04 am

Brett wrote:Thanks guys! I paid $600 for it.

You got a great deal for that cover.

A good page will cost you 300.00 plus. $600 for the cover was a steal.

Thank you for sharing.

VanHook · Post by **VanHook** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:48 am

Hey, gang--
Joe Q's pencils were very light. He definitely had a light hand during that era. I remember looking at some of them and being concerned that they'd fade before they were inked! (that the graphite would just disappear from normal handling) Fortunatley, they didn't.

One of my favorite covers as well. My favorite being the Afraid of the Darque issue with Solar in front of St.Patrick's. Barry gave Joe and Carol (VanHook) a wonderful compliment about that particular piece, saying it felt that the line art and the colors seemed of one hand.

BWS-- Black With Stars

KV

Brett · Post by **Brett** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:41 am

VanHook wrote:Hey, gang--
Joe Q's pencils were very light. He definitely had a light hand during that era. I remember looking at some of them and being concerned that they'd fade before they were inked! (that the graphite would just disappear from normal handling) Fortunatley, they didn't.

One of my favorite covers as well. My favorite being the Afraid of the Darque issue with Solar in front of St.Patrick's. Barry gave Joe and Carol (VanHook) a wonderful compliment about that particular piece, saying it felt that the line art and the colors seemed of one hand.

BWS-- Black With Stars

KV

Thanks for the info Kevin. The light pencils could be one reason for the xerox (which I forgot to post last night - promise I will get it up here eventually).

The Afraid of the Darque cover was probably my favorite Qusada Solar cover when they first came out.

Of course now it's my second favorite

Knightt · Post by **Knightt** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:51 am

VanHook wrote:My favorite being the Afraid of the Darque issue with Solar in front of St.Patrick's.

By far, my favorite as well right down to the storyline. Seeing as how that ooga booga Master Darque was involved with screwing with Solar's head, I always thought it would have been great if Joe could have drawn the entire issue.

Carol's work is always a pleasure to see. I have the two Solar colored pieces that you and Carol sent to me a while back up on my wall, matted and framed. Love 'em.

Vault-Keeper · Post by **Vault-Keeper** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:25 pm

Great find! $600 is a steal! It could have brought over $1000 on ebay, I'm sure! I have around 8 Valiant Vision colored Solar pages and splashes from that same period that are quite outstanding, to say the least. Carol did a great job!---Steve

sonicdan · Post by **sonicdan** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:26 pm

VanHook wrote:My favorite being the Afraid of the Darque issue with Solar in front of St.Patrick's.

Here's Joe Q's prelims for that cover:

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiec ... t=0&UCat=0

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiec ... t=0&UCat=0

DAN

VanHook · Post by **VanHook** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:23 pm

Great seeing that stuff! Very cool.

Carol sends her thanks for all the nice thoughts on her work.

Best,
KV

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