The Valiant Rebirth

COMICKINGS · Post by **COMICKINGS** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:16 pm

Some books came with the coupon in only 1 staple,only one end of the staple holding it,and some not even in the staple at all.If Harbinger #1 ever got back to $100 you would see fake coupons out the woodwork.If it was a printed coupon on an actual page then the book would have had to been cut to redeem it.But since it was just like a subscription form tag that could be found anywhere up and down the spine of the book there's no way to tell if it's an original or not.

greg · Post by **greg** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:24 pm

COMICKINGS wrote:Some books came with the coupon in only 1 staple,only one end of the staple holding it,and some not even in the staple at all.If Harbinger #1 ever got back to $100 you would see fake coupons out the woodwork.If it was a printed coupon on an actual page then the book would have had to been cut to redeem it.But since it was just like a subscription form tag that could be found anywhere up and down the spine of the book there's no way to tell if it's an original or not.

In your $100 scenario, that is probably true...
(Would the ones "with coupon in-staple" be more, then?)

"if it ever gets back to $100..."
(Can you really believe we're saying it and meaning it?)

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:27 pm

I wonder what happened to Ryan?

RyanWizard · Post by **RyanWizard** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:34 pm

I'm still around, it's just very hectic and we're in full swing putting together Wizard #151.
We're donating a ton of comics and I snagged some Valiants for a rainy day:
Unity 2000 1, 2
Bloodshot 5
Eternal Warrior 9, 13, 22
H.A.R.D. Corps 1, 7, 9
Harbinger 15, 16, 17, 20
Magnus 14, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23
Shadowman 4, 8, 11, 13, 17,
Solar 18, 22, 23, 26, 27, 28, 36
X-O 14, 17, 18, 20, 21

I was hoping for more Unity books. That's what I really want to read. Oh well.

dave · Post by **dave** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:10 pm

i was just in a shop last month and the guy was ready to donate 4 or 5 long boxes FULL of valiant. not "with some" valiant, i mean containg only valiant. i salvaged what i could (my wife is STILL mad) but i couldn't buy all of it-he donated all of it to purple heart

i imagine that those books are all doomed now...

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:41 pm

A moment of silence for these lost books plz.

They will be missed. ::bag-pipe music in the background::

x-omatic · Post by **x-omatic** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:41 am

dave wrote:i was just in a shop last month and the guy was ready to donate 4 or 5 long boxes FULL of valiant. not "with some" valiant, i mean containg only valiant. i salvaged what i could (my wife is STILL mad) but i couldn't buy all of it-he donated all of it to purple heart

i imagine that those books are all doomed now...

I think that is great. Now many more Valiant fans are abound to be born.

VanHook · Post by **VanHook** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:37 am

R Daneel wrote:
Ax wrote:If you are indeed the "real" Ryan Penagos, then tell us your favorite color. Only the true Ryan would know the correct answer.
If that is true, how will we know if he gives the correct answer??

Quite simply, only he would know it, silly.
Kevin

greg · Post by **greg** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:39 am

VanHook wrote:
R Daneel wrote:
Ax wrote:If you are indeed the "real" Ryan Penagos, then tell us your favorite color. Only the true Ryan would know the correct answer.
If that is true, how will we know if he gives the correct answer??
Quite simply, only he would know it, silly.
Kevin

Good point, plus... if he gives the wrong answer...
he will be cast into the Gorge of Eternal Peril.

R Daneel · Post by **R Daneel** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:43 am

VanHook wrote:
R Daneel wrote:
Ax wrote:If you are indeed the "real" Ryan Penagos, then tell us your favorite color. Only the true Ryan would know the correct answer.
If that is true, how will we know if he gives the correct answer??
Quite simply, only he would know it, silly.
Kevin

But my point was, why did he have to tell us? Why not just think it, write it down, or run outside and pee it into the snow?

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 3:51 pm

Look, none of this hyperbole really matters, as everyone here should know by now... THE MATRIX HAS YOU!!!

This is ALL nothing more than a dream...there never WERE Valiant Comic books, its simply a computer generated tool of propaganda and disguise I tell you...WAKE UP NEOPHYTES...WAKE UP!!!

Sir Bryan of New Yorkton!

Shakespeare · Post by **Shakespeare** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:51 pm

For me, one of the main reasons I enjoyed early Valiant was the continuity. Here you had a company that essentially had two universes, one set in the 1990s and one set in the 4000s, and somehow they kept both interesting. Most companies can’t keep one universe straight, and in the early days Valiant successfully managed two, all the while planting clues of what was to come. Most of us have read Rai #0, the bridge to the future, more than any other comic.

DC has tried to explain Superman’s powers in a half-dozen ways over the years, and there’s still controversy. Valiant knew where it was going from the beginning.

Another reason was that Valiant often tried to keep everything scientific, even their version of magic. Magic wasn’t supernatural, it was just another form of energy in the universe. Now look at Marvel…radiation, magic, gods, forces, mutants, elementals, unexplainables…it’s difficult to imagine all of these interacting and battling and still creating tension and suspense. After all, wouldn’t the Scarlet Witch be the most powerful being in the universe, even if she met the Living Tribunal? In Valiant, the person who made the most sense to be the most powerful, Solar, was the most powerful. Unfortunately, after Shooter left, Valiant fell down the Marvel hole.

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:55 pm

Shakespeare wrote:For me, one of the main reasons I enjoyed early Valiant was the continuity. Here you had a company that essentially had two universes, one set in the 1990s and one set in the 4000s, and somehow they kept both interesting. Most companies can’t keep one universe straight, and in the early days Valiant successfully managed two, all the while planting clues of what was to come. Most of us have read Rai #0, the bridge to the future, more than any other comic.

DC has tried to explain Superman’s powers in a half-dozen ways over the years, and there’s still controversy. Valiant knew where it was going from the beginning.

Another reason was that Valiant often tried to keep everything scientific, even their version of magic. Magic wasn’t supernatural, it was just another form of energy in the universe. Now look at Marvel…radiation, magic, gods, forces, mutants, elementals, unexplainables…it’s difficult to imagine all of these interacting and battling and still creating tension and suspense. After all, wouldn’t the Scarlet Witch be the most powerful being in the universe, even if she met the Living Tribunal? In Valiant, the person who made the most sense to be the most powerful, Solar, was the most powerful. Unfortunately, after Shooter left, Valiant fell down the Marvel hole.

I couldn't agree more. However, after Shooter left I would say that some of the stories weren't even worthy of Marvel. :/ Just my two cents worth.

Shakespeare · Post by **Shakespeare** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:56 pm

And why hasn't anyone warned Ryan away from those comics he picked up? There's hardly a good one in the bunch. Someone please send him a batch of Unity! Do we really want him reading about the Eternal Enemy?!?

edlockman · Post by **edlockman** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:57 pm

Ryan (the Wizard guy):

If you want, I have an extra set of the Unity Saga 1 - 4, the trade collection that encompasses the entire shebang (except Valiant's weak attempt to cash in on strip-mining a-la Marvel Style: ValiantComics.Com Members will know that the book I am referring to is.. Unity: The Lost Chapter).

Anyway, please let me know if you would like this and to what address that I can send this to you. Please feel free to e-mail me at edlockman@hotmail.com or PM me here at ValiantComics.com.
Thanks and hope to hear from you.

Ed Lockman

mrwoogieman · Post by **mrwoogieman** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:02 pm

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:06 pm

Nooo.... not you too Woogie!!!

mrwoogieman · Post by **mrwoogieman** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:10 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:Nooo.... not you too Woogie!!!

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:25 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:Nooo.... not you too Woogie!!!

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X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:13 am

Damn, everyone's going Darkside.

Daniel Jackson · Post by **Daniel Jackson** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:18 am

X-O HoboJoe wrote:Damn, everyone's going Darkside.

I know, it's getting pretty scary around here.

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:30 am

Daniel Jackson wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:Damn, everyone's going Darkside.
I know, it's getting pretty scary around here.

C'mon DJ, we've been over here for awhile . . . The rest of the board is just catching up.

jedimarley · Post by **jedimarley** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:19 pm

Daniel Jackson wrote:
X-O HoboJoe wrote:Damn, everyone's going Darkside.
I know, it's getting pretty scary around here.

You love it.

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