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guide to reading valiant comics ????

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any chance the thread titled: "guide to reading valiant comics" by manoftheatom can be restored???

iirc, it lists the chronological order (by content) by which V1 should be read....huge thread, lotsa work.

i know i found it informative (good thing i printed it out). :)

just curious....

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If greg can't restore it...can you post it? please??? :)
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its 19 (yes nineteen) printed pages.....i can retype it, but it will take some time...

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dude..don't kill yourself over it...somebody must have a softcopy somewhere...anyone???...anyone???...Beuller???
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jusdb wrote:i know i found it informative (good thing i printed it out). :)
just curious....


Just retype it! :wink:

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I think that you might be able to scan the text with any scanner, right?
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Valiant reading order - from the old messageboard

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If you want to read the books in the order they were released
(probably recommended if you like the early books best,
and want to understand the progression of Valiant as a company)
http://www.valiantcomics.com/valiant/releaseorder.asp

Or... if you prefer the chronological...
I was able to find the chronological list compiled
by ManOfTheAtom on the old messageboard:
(Note: This is not "time order"... Magnus takes place in 4000AD,
so this is more of a modified release order with some time consideration.)

Chronological List Compiled By ManOfTheAtom
Timewalker #0
The Original Turok, Son of Stone #1
The Original Turok, Son of Stone #2
The Original Doctor Solar, Man of The Atom #1
Secrets of the Valiant Universe #3
Captain Johner & The Aliens #1
Captain Johner & The Aliens #2
Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #1
Magnus Robot Fighter Yearbook #1
The Original Magnus Robot Fighter #1
Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #2
Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #3
Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #4
Magnus Robot Fighter/Nexus Preview (Advance Comics)
Magnus Robot Fighter/Nexus #1
Magnus Robot Fighter/Nexus #2
Magnus Robot Fighter #0
Magnus Robot Fighter #1
Magnus Robot Fighter #2
Solar Man of The Atom Alpha & Omega TP
Magnus Robot Fighter #3
Solar Man of The Atom #1
Magnus Robot Fighter #4
Solar Man of The Atom #2
Magnus Robot Fighter #5/Rai Flipbook #1
Solar Man of The Atom #3
Harbinger Files #1
Magnus Robot Fighter #6/Rai Flipbook #2
Solar Man of The Atom #4
Harbinger #0
Magnus Robot Fighter #7/Rai Flipbook #3
Solar Man of The Atom #5
Harbinger #1
X-O Manowar #0
Magnus Robot Fighter #8/Rai Flipbook #4
Solar Man of The Atom #6
Harbinger #2
X-O Manowar #1
Magnus Robot Fighter #9
Solar Man of The Atom #7
Harbinger #3
X-O Manowar #2
Magnus Robot Fighter #10
Rai #1
Solar Man of The Atom #8
Harbinger #4
X-O Manowar #3
Magnus Robot Fighter #11
Rai #2
Solar Man of The Atom #9
Harbinger #5
X-O Manowar #4
Shadowman #1
Magnus Robot Fighter #12
Rai #3
Solar Man of The Atom #10
Harbinger #6
X-O Manowar #5
Shadowman #2
Magnus Robot Fighter #13
Rai #4
Magnus Robot Figher/Predator #1
Magnus Robot Fighter/Predator #2
Solar Man of The Atom #11
The Valiant Era Companion #1
Archer & Armstrong #0
Harbinger #7
X-O Manowar #6
Shadowman #3
Magnus Robot Fighter #14
Rai #5
Unity #0
Eternal Warrior #1
Archer & Armstrong #1
Magnus Robot Fighter #15
X-O Manowar #7
Shadowman #4
Rai #6
Harbinger #8
Solar Man of The Atom #12
Eternal Warrior #2
Archer & Armstrong #2
Magnus Robot Fighter #16
X-O Manowar #8
Shadowman #5
Rai #7
Harbinger #9
Solar Man of The Atom #13
Unity: The Lost Chapter
Rai Companion #1
Unity #1
Archer & Armstrong #3
Eternal Warrior #3
X-O Manowar #9
Shadowman #6
Solar Man of The Atom #14
Harbinger #10
Magnus Robot Fighter #17
Rai #8
Archer & Armstrong #4
Eternal Warrior #4
Harbinger #11
Solar Man of The Atom #15
Shadowman #7
X-O Manowar #10
Magnus Robot Fighter #18
Archer & Armstrong #5
Eternal Warrior #5
X-O Manowar #11
Solar Man of The Atom #16
H.A.R.D. Corps #1
Harbinger #12
Shadowman #8
Magnus Robot Fighter #19
Archer & Armstrong #6
H.A.R.D. Corps #2
Harbinger #13
Shadowman #9
X-O Manowar #12
Solar Man of The Atom #17
Eternal Warrior #6
Bloodshot #0
Magnus Robot Fighter #20
Archer & Armstrong #7
H.A.R.D. Corps #3
Harbinger #14
Shadowman #10
X-O Manowar #13
Solar Man of The Atom #18
Eternal Warrior #7
Bloodshot #1
Magnus Robot Fighter #21
Archer & Armstrong/Eternal Warrior #8
H.A.R.D. Corps #4
Harbinger #15
Shadowman #11
X-O Manowar #14
Solar Man of The Atom #19
Bloodshot #2
Magnus Robot Fighter #22
Archer & Armstrong #9
Harbinger #16
H.A.R.D. Corps #5
Shadowman #12
X-O Manowar #15
Solar Man of The Atom #20
Bloodshot #3
Eternal Warrior #9
Magnus Robot Fighter #23
Rai #0
Archer & Armstrong #10
Solar Man of The Atom #21
Magnus Robot Fighter #24
Bloodshot #4
H.A.R.D. Corps #6
Harbinger #17
Shadowman #13
Eternal Warrior #10
X-O Manowar #16
Rai & The Future Force #9
Archer & Armstrong #11
Harbinger #18
X-O Manowar #17
Shadowman #14
Solar Man of The Atom #22
H.A.R.D. Corps #7
Eternal Warrior #11
Bloodshot #5
Magnus Robot Fighter #25
Rai & The Future Force #10
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #1
Archer & Armstrong #12
Harbinger #19
X-O Manowar #18
Shadowman #15
Solar Man of The Atom #23
H.A.R.D. Corps #8
Eternal Warrior #12
Bloodshot #6
Rai & The Future Force #11
Magnus Robot Fighter #26
Death Mate Prelude Green
Death Mate Prologue
Death Mate Prelude Red
Death Mate Yellow
Death Mate Blue
Death Mate Red
Death Mate Black
Death Mate Epilogue
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #2
Archer & Armstrong #13
Harbinger #20
X-O Manowar #19
Shadowman #16
Solar Man of The Atom #24
H.A.R.D. Corps #9
Eternal Warrior #13
Bloodshot #7
Magnus Robot Fighter #27
Rai & The Future Force #12
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #3
Archer & Armstrong #14
Harbinger #21
X-O Manowar #20
Shadowman #17
Secret Weapons #1
Bloodshot #8
Solar Man of The Atom #25
H.A.R.D. Corps #10
Eternal Warrior #14
Magnus Robot Fighter #28
Rai & The Future Force #13
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #4
Archer & Armstrong #15
Harbinger #22
X-O Manowar #21
Shadowman #18
Secret Weapons #2
Solar Man of The Atom #26
Eternal Warrior #15
Bloodshot #9
H.A.R.D. Corps #11
Magnus Robot Fighter #29
Rai & The Future Force #14
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #5
Archer & Armstrong #16
Harbinger #23
X-O Manowar #22
Shadowman #19
Eternal Warrior #16
Secret Weapons #3
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #1
Solar Man of The Atom #27
Bloodshot #10
H.A.R.D. Corps #12
Rai & The Future Force #15
Magnus Robot Fighter #30
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #6
Archer & Armstrong #17
Harbinger #24
X-O Manowar #23
Shadowman #20
Eternal Warrior #17
Secret Weapons #4
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #2
Solar Man of The Atom #28
Bloodshot #11
H.A.R.D. Corps #13
Eternal Warrior Yearbook #1
Rai & The Future Force #16
Magnus Robot Fighter #31
Ninjak #0
Ninjak #00
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #7
Archer & Armstrong #18
Harbinger #25
X-O Manowar #24
Shadowman #21
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #3
Eternal Warrior #18
Secret Weapons #5
VALIANT Vision Starter Kit: Solar Man of The Atom
Solar Man of The Atom #29
Bloodshot #12
H.A.R.D. Corps #14
Rai & The Future Force #17
Magnus Robot Fighter #32
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #8
Archer & Armstrong #19
Harbinger #26
X-O Manowar #25/Armorines #0
Eternal Warrior #19
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #4
Shadowman #22
Secret Weapons #6
Solar Man of The Atom #30
Ninjak #1
Bloodshot #13
H.A.R.D. Corps #15
Rai & The Future Force #18
Magnus Robot Fighter #33
Timewalker Yearbook #1
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #5
Shadowman #23
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #9
Secret Weapons #7
Ninjak #2
Eternal Warrior #20
Archer & Armstrong #20
Bloodshot #14
Harbinger #27
X-O Manowar #26
H.A.R.D. Corps #16
Solar Man of The Atom #31
Magnus Robot Fighter #34
Rai & The Future Force #19
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #6
Shadowman #0
Shadowman #24
Solar Man of The Atom #32
Harbinger #28
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #10
Secret Weapons #8
Ninjak #3
Bloodshot #15
Eternal Warrior #21
Archer & Armstrong #21
X-O Manowar #27
H.A.R.D. Corps #17
Magnus Robot Fighter #35
Rai & The Future Force #20
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #7
Shadowman #25
Solar Man of The Atom #33
Harbinger #29
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #11
Secret Weapons #9
Bloodshot #16
Ninjak #4
Eternal Warrior #22
Archer & Armstrong #22
X-O Manowar #28
H.A.R.D. Corps #18
Magnus Robot Fighter #36
Rai & The Future Force #21
Shadowman #26
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #8
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #12
Ninjak #5
Bloodshot #17
Secret Weapons #10
Eternal Warrior #23
Archer & Armstrong #23
Harbinger #30
H.A.R.D. Corps #19
Armorines #1
X-O Manowar #29
Solar Man of The Atom #34
Magnus Robot Fighter #37
Rai & The Future Force #22
Shadowman #27
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #9
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #13
Secrets of the Valiant Universe #1
Bloodshot #18
Secret Weapons #11
Ninjak #6
Archer & Armstrong #24
Eternal Warrior #24
Harbinger #31
H.A.R.D. Corps #20
Armorines #2
X-O Manowar #30
Solar Man of The Atom #35
Bloodshot Yearbook #1
Magnus Robot Fighter #38
Rai & The Future Force #23
Shadowman #28
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #10
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #14
Bloodshot #19
Secret Weapons #12
Ninjak #7
Archer & Armstrong #25
Eternal Warrior #25
Harbinger #32
Armorines #3
X-O Manowar #31
H.A.R.D. Corps #21
Solar Man of The Atom #36
Turok Yearbook #1
Psi-Lords #1
Rai & The Future Force #24
Magnus Robot Fighter #39
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #15
Solar Man of The Atom #37
Harbinger #33
H.A.R.D. Corps #22
Armorines #4
X-O Manowar #32
Psi-Lords #2
Magnus Robot Fighter #40
Rai & The Future Force #25
The Chaos Effect Alpha
Shadowman #29
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #11
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #16
Secrets of the Valiant Universe #2
Ninjak #8
Bloodshot #20
Secret Weapons #13
Archer & Armstrong #26/Eternal Warrior #26
Harbinger #34
Armorines #5
X-O Manowar #33
H.A.R.D. Corps #23
Solar Man of The Atom #38
Psi-Lords #3
Rai #26
Magnus Robot Fighter #41
The Chaos Effect Omega
Shadowman #30
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #12
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #17
Bloodshot #21
Secret Weapons #14
Ninjak #9
Eternal Warrior #27
Geomancer #1
Shadowman #31
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #13
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #18
Bloodshot #22
Secret Weapons #15
Ninjak #10
Geomancer #2
Eternal Warrior #28
Harbinger #35
Armorines #6
X-O Manowar #34
H.A.R.D. Corps #24
Solar Man of The Atom #39
Timewalker #1
Ninjak Yearbook #1
Shadowman Yearbook #1
Psi-Lords #4
Magnus Robot Fighter #42
Rai #27
Shadowman #32
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #14
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #19
Bloodshot #23
Secret Weapons #16
Ninjak #11
Geomancer #3
Eternal Warrior #29
The Chaos Effect Epilogue #1
Harbinger #36
The Chaos Effect Epilogue #2
Armorines #7
X-O Manowar #35
H.A.R.D. Corps #25
Solar Man of The Atom #40
Timewalker #2
Eternal Warrior Yearbook #2
Psi-Lords #5
Magnus Robot Fighter #43
Rai #28
Shadowman #33
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #15
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #20
Bloodshot #24
Secret Weapons #17
Ninjak #12
Geomancer #4
Eternal Warrior #30
Harbinger #37
Harbinger Files #2
Armorines #8
X-O Manowar #36
H.A.R.D. Corps #26
Solar Man of The Atom #41
Timewalker #3
Magnus Robot Fighter #44
Psi-Lords #6
Rai #29
Shadowman #34
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #16
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #21
Bloodshot #25
Secret Weapons #18
Ninjak #13
Geomancer #5
Eternal Warrior #31
Harbinger #38
Armorines #9
X-O Manowar #37
X-O Manowar #1/2
X-O Manowar #38
X-O Manowar #39
X-O Manowar #40
H.A.R.D. Corps #27
Solar Man of The Atom #42
Timewalker #4
The Visitor Vs The Valiant Universe #1
The Visitor Vs The Valiant Universe #2
X-O Manowar Yearbook #1
Psi-Lords #7
Magnus Robot Fighter #45
Rai #30
Shadowman #35
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #17
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #22
Bloodshot #26
Secret Weapons #19
Ninjak #14
Geomancer #6
Eternal Warrior #32
Harbinger #39
Armorines #10
X-O Manowar #41
H.A.R.D. Corps #28
Solar Man of The Atom #43
Timewalker #5
The Visitor #1
Destroyer #0
Psi-Lords #8
Magnus Robot Fighter #46
Rai #31
Shadowman #36
The Second Life of Dr. Mirage #18
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #23
Bloodshot #27
Secret Weapons #20
Bloodshot #28
Secret Weapons #21
Ninjak #15
Geomancer #7
Eternal Warrior #33
Harbinger #40
Armorines #11
X-O Manowar #42
H.A.R.D. Corps #29
Solar Man of The Atom #44
Timewalker #6
The Visitor #2
Psi-Lords #9
Magnus Robot Fighter #47
Rai #32
Shadowman #37
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #24
Bloodshot #29
Ninjak #16
Geomancer #8
Eternal Warrior #34
Harbinger #41
Armorines #12
X-O Manowar #43
H.A.R.D. Corps #30
Solar Man of The Atom #45
Timewalker #7
The Visitor #3
Psi-Lords #10
Magnus Robot Fighter #48
Rai #33
Shadowman #38
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #25
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #26
Bloodshot #30
Bloodshot #31
Ninjak #17
Ninjak #18
Eternal Warrior #35
Eternal Warrior #36
X-O Manowar Birthquake Prelude
X-O Manowar #44
X-O Manowar #45
Solar Man of The Atom #46
Timewalker #8
Timewalker #9
The Visitor #4
The Visitor #5
Magnus Robot Fighter #49
Magnus Robot Fighter #50
Shadowman #39
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #27
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #28
Bloodshot #32
Bloodshot #33
Ninjak #19
Ninjak #20
Eternal Warrior #37
Eternal Warrior #38
X-O Manowar #46
X-O Manowar #47
Solar Man of The Atom #47
Timewalker #10
Timewalker #11
The Visitor #6
The Visitor #7
Magnus Robot Fighter #51
Magnus Robot Fighter #52
Shadowman #40
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #29
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #30
Bloodshot #34
Bloodshot #35
Ninjak #21
Ninjak #22
Eternal Warrior #39
Eternal Warrior #40
X-O Manowar #48
X-O Manowar #49
Solar Man of The Atom #48
Solar Man of The Atom #49
Timewalker #12
Timewalker #13
The Visitor #8
The Visitor #9
Magnus Robot Fighter #53
Magnus Robot Fighter #54
Shadowman #41
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #31
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #32
Bloodshot #36
Bloodshot #37
Ninjak #23
Ninjak #24
Eternal Warrior #41
Eternal Warrior #42
X-O Manowar #50-X
X-O Manowar #50-O
Solar Man of The Atom #50
Timewalker #14
Timewalker #15
The Visitor #10
The Visitor #11
Magnus Robot Fighter #55
Magnus Robot Fighter #56
Shadowman #42
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #33
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #0
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #34
Bloodshot #38
Bloodshot #39
Ninjak #25
Ninjak #26
Eternal Warrior #43
Eternal Warrior #44
X-O Manowar #51
X-O Manowar #52
Solar Man of The Atom #51
Solar Man of The Atom #52
The Visitor #12
The Visitor #13
Magnus Robot Fighter #57
Magnus Robot Fighter #58
Shadowman #43
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #35
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #36
Bloodshot #40
Bloodshot #41
Eternal Warrior #45
Eternal Warrior #46
X-O Manowar #53
X-O Manowar #54
Solar Man of The Atom #53
Solar Man of The Atom #54
The Outcast Special
Magnus Robot Fighter #59
Magnus Robot Fighter #60
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #37
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #38
Bloodshot #42
Bloodshot #43
Eternal Warrior #47
Eternal Warrior #48
X-O Manowar #55
X-O Manowar #56
Solar Man of The Atom #55
Solar Man of The Atom #56
Magnus Robot Fighter #61
Magnus Robot Fighter #62
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #39
Bloodshot #44
Eternal Warrior The Wings of Justice
Eternal Warrior #49
X-O Manowar #57
X-O Manowar #58
Solar Man of The Atom #57
Solar Man of The Atom #58
Magnus Robot Fighter #63
Magnus Robot Fighter #64
Turok The Hunted #1
Turok The Hunted #2
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #40
Bloodshot #45
Bloodshoot Last Stand
Eternal Warrior #50
X-O Manowar #59
X-O Manowar #60
Solar Man of The Atom #59
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #41
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #42
Bloodshot #46
X-O Manowar #61
X-O Manowar #62
Solar Man of The Atom #60
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #43
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #44
Bloodshot #47
Bloodshot #48
Eternal Warrior: Fist & Steel #1
X-O Manowar #63
X-O Manowar #64
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #45
Bloodshot #49
Eternal Warrior: Fist & Steel #2
X-O Manowar #65
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #46
Bloodshot #50
X-O Manowar #66
Turok Dinosaur Hunter #47
Bloodshot #51
X-O Manowar #67
X-O Manowar #68
X-O Manowar/Iron Man #1
Iron Man/X-O Manowar #1

Extras that can be read in any order:
Darque Passages (inserted with the Shadowman TP)
Valiant Reader #1
X-O Database (inserted with the X-O Manowar TP)
Acclaim Comics Presents Valiant Birthquake Free-View
PunX #1
PunX #2
PunX #3
Manga PunX Special #1

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I was really satisfied last time I reread the books in order published. All the pre Unity books are great like that, but some of the later ones barely interact with each other so its much less significant.

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greg wrote:(Note: This is not "time order"... Magnus takes place in 4000AD,so this is more of a modified release order with some time consideration.)


Ah, but as every VALIANT fan well knows, time is not absolute ;)

Think of time at VALIANT as a race track, where each second in existance is represented by a different car.

All cars/seconds are side by side in an infinite row.

When the race stars, all cars run side by side, no car will ever move ahead of the others (except for Ivar, who can move freely from lane to lane and back and forth as he wishes).

Cars, however, can move from one lane to the other using the Lost Land (i.e. Jack Boniface in the 1991 car/lane can move to the 4001 lane and interact with Magnus. Or he can get into the 4001 car and stay there with Leeja).

All time happens at the same time.

Time is like space at VALIANT, so while Solar was dying in Invasion, he was being reborn at the same exact time in Second Death.

Erica wanted to stop this "mess".

She wanted time at VALIANT to have order, for events to take place after and before each other, not at the same time as each other.
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greg wrote:Chronological List Compiled By ManOfTheAtom
Timewalker #0
The Original Turok, Son of Stone #1
The Original Turok, Son of Stone #2
The Original Doctor Solar, Man of The Atom #1
Secrets of the Valiant Universe #3
Captain Johner & The Aliens #1
Captain Johner & The Aliens #2
Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #1
Magnus Robot Fighter Yearbook #1
The Original Magnus Robot Fighter #1
Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #2
Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #3
Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #4


Ok, time for an optional revision :)

Replace The Original Doctor Solar, Man of the Atom #1 with Dark Horse's Doctor Solar hardcovers.

Replace The Original Magnus Robot Fighter #1 and Vintage Magnus Robot Fighter #1-#4 with Dark Horse's Magnus Robot Fighter hardcovers, but make sure to read Magnus Robot Fighter Yearbook #1 after issue #1 in the hc.
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Post by Shakespeare »

I've said it before and I'll say it again...I'd never read Timewalker #0 first. It answers too many questions which haven't been asked yet.

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Post by greg »

Shakespeare wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again...I'd never read Timewalker #0 first. It answers too many questions which haven't been asked yet.


That's why you can't go wrong with the original order...
http://www.valiantcomics.com/valiant/releaseorder.asp

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