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wow....sounds familiar

Mexican government officials and luxury hotel venues are casting doubt on the return of infamous Fyre Festival - this time branded as Fyre Festival 2.
The event is set to take place on Isla Mujeres from May 30 to June 2 and festival founder Billy McFarland insists that everything is on track.
But key stakeholders on the island are telling a very different story.
Isla Mujeres' city hall has released a damning statement, pouring cold water on McFarland's claims revealing how the festival's organizers have not yet even applied for the necessary permits to hold the event.
'The General Directorate for Tourism of Isla Mujeres informs that no person or company has requested permits from this office or any other municipal government department for said event,' the statement read.
The revelation raises serious concerns about whether Fyre Festival 2 can legally proceed, despite convicted con artist McFarland's confident assertions that the event is still on and will go ahead as planned.
Just like its predecessor, Fyre Festival 2 has been aggressively marketing a high-end experience, with ticket packages costing as much as $25,000.
Yet in another embarrassing twist, Mourad Essafi, the general manager of the Secrets resort publicly denied any affiliation with the festival.
'We are not sponsoring Fyre Festival 2 or affiliated with it in any way. Reports to the contrary are false,' Essafi declared on February 28.
Despite this the hotel is still listed on the festival's website as a premium accommodation option, raising even more questions about the legitimacy of McFarland's claims.
McFarland attempted to reassure ticket holders and festival-goers in a social media video on Tuesday.
He insisted that Fyre Festival 2 had secured contracts with 'a number of villas, yachts, and hotels,' though he conspicuously avoided naming specific locations.
After some hotels publicly disassociated themselves from the festival, McFarland took an aggressive stance stating how his team had 'terminated those contracts' after two hotels allegedly gave 'misleading statements, saying they never heard of Fyre.'
While McFarland did not specify which hotels he was referring to, it remains unclear how many actual agreements are in place.
'We're going to have artists across electronic, hip hop, pop and rock. However, it's not just music,' McFarland said to Today.
'We might have a professional skateboarder do a demonstration. We might have an MMA champion teach you techniques in the morning.'
Given the catastrophic failure of the original Fyre Festival in 2017, many are now questioning why McFarland is even bothering to stage a second attempt.
McFarland was sentenced to six years in prison in 2018 for defrauding investors out of $26 million along with over $100,000 in additional fraudulent ticket-selling schemes.
McFarland agreed to pay back his victims. Along with jail time he was ordered to forfeit the cash.
After serving under four years of his six-year sentence, he was released to a halfway house, and was under house arrest until September 2022.
He told USA Today last week that $500,000 of the festival's proceeds and an additional 10 percent of all profits would be allocated toward restitution.
The first Fyre Festival, held in the Bahamas in 2017, was infamously marketed the 'cultural experience of the decade', featuring influencer endorsements from the likes of Kendall Jenner, Bella Hadid, and Hailey Bieber.
Attendees were promised performances from major artists like Blink-182 and Migos, along with five-star accommodations and gourmet food.
Instead, when festival-goers arrived on the Bahamian island Exuma, it was a scene of chaos.
Artists had canceled, the promised luxury lodgings were actually Red Cross disaster-relief tents, and the now-iconic 'gourmet meal' turned out to be little more than a sad cheese sandwich in a Styrofoam box.
Numerous festival-goers posted pictures on social media of the shambolic scenes, leading to online mockery of the high prices many had paid.
Attendees were effectively stranded and had to be evacuated after just one night, cementing Fyre Festival's place as one of the greatest scams in modern history

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Fyre Festival 2 might be a bit of a stretch.
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I don’t get the Fyre Festival 2 analogy.

Is it supposed to be analogous with the Schism Kickstarter relaunching next week with a much smaller goal? Or is it something completely different that just goes over my head?

As my hero Sarris once said, “Explain, as you would a child”.

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RyanMcLelland wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:49 am I don’t get the Fyre Festival 2 analogy.

Is it supposed to be analogous with the Schism Kickstarter relaunching next week with a much smaller goal? Or is it something completely different that just goes over my head?

As my hero Sarris once said, “Explain, as you would a child”.
By Grabthar’s hammer, this analogy is obtuse.

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Chiclo wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:00 am
RyanMcLelland wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:49 am I don’t get the Fyre Festival 2 analogy.

Is it supposed to be analogous with the Schism Kickstarter relaunching next week with a much smaller goal? Or is it something completely different that just goes over my head?

As my hero Sarris once said, “Explain, as you would a child”.
By Grabthar’s hammer, this analogy is obtuse.
I wish we could activate the Omega 13 on this convo now that the Kickstarter is relaunching.

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RyanMcLelland wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:58 am
Chiclo wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:00 am
RyanMcLelland wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:49 am I don’t get the Fyre Festival 2 analogy.

Is it supposed to be analogous with the Schism Kickstarter relaunching next week with a much smaller goal? Or is it something completely different that just goes over my head?

As my hero Sarris once said, “Explain, as you would a child”.
By Grabthar’s hammer, this analogy is obtuse.
I wish we could activate the Omega 13 on this convo now that the Kickstarter is relaunching.
Why would you want to re-experience it?
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To know how to stop it. Obliviously.
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Cyberstrike wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:29 am To know how to stop it. Obliviously.
By… dragging mines?

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ManofTheAtom wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:21 am
RyanMcLelland wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:58 am
Chiclo wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:00 am
RyanMcLelland wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:49 am I don’t get the Fyre Festival 2 analogy.

Is it supposed to be analogous with the Schism Kickstarter relaunching next week with a much smaller goal? Or is it something completely different that just goes over my head?

As my hero Sarris once said, “Explain, as you would a child”.
By Grabthar’s hammer, this analogy is obtuse.
I wish we could activate the Omega 13 on this convo now that the Kickstarter is relaunching.
Why would you want to re-experience it?
I was hoping going back in time with the new Kickstarter may have less yelling and vitriol. Maybe that’s just wishful thinking.

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RyanMcLelland wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:06 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:21 am
RyanMcLelland wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:58 am
Chiclo wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:00 am
RyanMcLelland wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:49 am I don’t get the Fyre Festival 2 analogy.

Is it supposed to be analogous with the Schism Kickstarter relaunching next week with a much smaller goal? Or is it something completely different that just goes over my head?

As my hero Sarris once said, “Explain, as you would a child”.
By Grabthar’s hammer, this analogy is obtuse.
I wish we could activate the Omega 13 on this convo now that the Kickstarter is relaunching.
Why would you want to re-experience it?
I was hoping going back in time with the new Kickstarter may have less yelling and vitriol. Maybe that’s just wishful thinking.
Remember that Duck Dodgers cartoon/short in which he and Marvin The Martian attack each other with increasingly larger laser guns until they destroy the planet they are standing on?

Replace Dodgers with Jake demanding that syzhang28 show him Lapham's e-mail and replace Marvin with syzhang28 demanding that Jake show him the indicia that states who owns the Defiant characters and replace the guns with each of them shouting "show me the e-mail/show me the indicia" in increasingly louder tones and that's where we're at.

I'd have illustrated that using screengrabs from the episode/short but I couldn't find it online...
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ManofTheAtom wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:02 am
RyanMcLelland wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:06 am
ManofTheAtom wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:21 am
RyanMcLelland wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:58 am
Chiclo wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:00 am
RyanMcLelland wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:49 am I don’t get the Fyre Festival 2 analogy.

Is it supposed to be analogous with the Schism Kickstarter relaunching next week with a much smaller goal? Or is it something completely different that just goes over my head?

As my hero Sarris once said, “Explain, as you would a child”.
By Grabthar’s hammer, this analogy is obtuse.
I wish we could activate the Omega 13 on this convo now that the Kickstarter is relaunching.
Why would you want to re-experience it?
I was hoping going back in time with the new Kickstarter may have less yelling and vitriol. Maybe that’s just wishful thinking.
Remember that Duck Dodgers cartoon/short in which he and Marvin The Martian attack each other with increasingly larger laser guns until they destroy the planet they are standing on?

Replace Dodgers with Jake demanding that syzhang28 show him Lapham's e-mail and replace Marvin with syzhang28 demanding that Jake show him the indicia that states who owns the Defiant characters and replace the guns with each of them shouting "show me the e-mail/show me the indicia" in increasingly louder tones and that's where we're at.

I'd have illustrated that using screengrabs from the episode/short but I couldn't find it online...
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The Chosen 1 wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 5:43 pm
:lol:
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:lol: :lol: :funnypost: :funnypost:
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Great to see the round 2 arrive with more reasonable expectations! As a fan since the beginning of Defiant until the end, I can’t wait to read Schism after all these years.

I’ve personally avoided reading the plot and produced pages that have been available online for years for some odd reason. Call it intuition. lol. Now, I’m glad I did. I’m looking forward to seeing Chasm conquer the Defiant Universe.
“The Bad Guys Win”! That was the unique catch back then.

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not sure you realize this, or maybe you fought for the other team, but without question and according to all facts (not opinions) , Crusaders were the good guys

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reddog wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 6:05 am not sure you realize this, or maybe you fought for the other team, but without question and according to all facts (not opinions) , Crusaders were the good guys
Crusaders from the middle ages? Definitely not the good guys lol. Unless bloodshed, unprovoked violence and religious persecution are suddenly hallmarks of good guys. Both sides were very morally ambiguous during the crusades.

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buff-beardo wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:31 am Great to see the round 2 arrive with more reasonable expectations! As a fan since the beginning of Defiant until the end, I can’t wait to read Schism after all these years.

I’ve personally avoided reading the plot and produced pages that have been available online for years for some odd reason. Call it intuition. lol. Now, I’m glad I did. I’m looking forward to seeing Chasm conquer the Defiant Universe.
“The Bad Guys Win”! That was the unique catch back then.

P.S. - I don’t care about the politics/economics behind this project. The only controversy that exists has been created by people uninvolved with this project. Crusaders.
What does Archie's superheroes have to with Defiant? :D :kidaround:
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syzhang28 wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 2:11 pm
reddog wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 6:05 am not sure you realize this, or maybe you fought for the other team, but without question and according to all facts (not opinions) , Crusaders were the good guys
Crusaders from the middle ages? Definitely not the good guys lol. Unless bloodshed, unprovoked violence and religious persecution are suddenly hallmarks of good guys. Both sides were very morally ambiguous during the crusades.
If not the good guys, certainly these are the hallmarks of a good party.

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So, is National Booksmugglers’ Day an appropriate holiday to remember this thread?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_book_smugglers

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Chiclo wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:55 am So, is National Booksmugglers’ Day an appropriate holiday to remember this thread?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_book_smugglers
Why not? It's way off topic anyway.
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Little less than a month left on the 2nd Schism Kickstarter. Kickstarter started off pretty strong but had about 1/3rd of the way to go.

Chatter seemed to die out here on the sub. What do you think? Anyone familiar with Kickstarters? Do they tend to pick up in like the last week or so?

I’m looking forward to what’s next so hoping the Kickstarter makes its goal.

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They reached their goal, good for them.
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