P"U"X...who has more than 10 graded books from em'

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:26 pm

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, am I held to a different standard of posting times than others Confused Am I not...allowed to post within the first 30 minutes of my first post? that seems to have bothered you?

So, let's see...you're teaching me something? Thumbs Up WHAT, i have yet to ascertain, but your rant makes little sense if you re-read it Neutral

There is INHERENT, mathematical RISK ...in the every day travels of your LIFE Rolling Eyes for you to believe you will EVER find ANYTHING that is 100% of anything...is ignorant of life. Sure they make mistakes, don't YOU Confused do you hold yourself to such a standard of 100% perfection,...every day of the year? Neutral

Laughing whatever dude, "the best I could do" means nothing to me here, this was about me pointing out facts, and you ignoring them...period! Cool

The BEST I could do?...if you say so Thumbs Up

Just trying to teach you that other "companies" have *SQUEE* up too. And they *SQUEE* up bad for ckb. You seem to glance over CGC's screw up but you aren't above making fiction stories about PGX. This confuses me. Then you avoid TheComicGuys post to you, and finally you pretend like you don't know what I'm talking about when YOU tried to call me about CGC not knowing how to encapsulate. I was justing showing you PROOF.

this was about me pointing out facts, and you ignoring them...period!

What facts? You pointed out NO facts and when people called you on it you claim ignorance or just mock them altoghter. I don't claim to be the best poster on the internet but I re-read my post and it makes sense that YOUR WRONG when you attacked my stance about CGC and their encapsulation of books.

Now you are just attacking my character and not the topic. Old trick.

But we can both agree on "whatever dude". Thanks for the laughs.. I'm out! Look me up when you got something factual to post.

ckb · Post by **ckb** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:45 pm

I'll post something factual: The stuff that went on here with "ryostar" and PGX smelled pretty funky to me.

OK, OK, it's not factual. It still stunk. Still, you'd have to be crazy not to want to purchase a modern PGX book for around guide+grading cost.

I do have to be thankful my losses aren't harder to replace. Although that Magnus 64 makes me cringe - big time. The double signed Magnus 2 will probably end up with "magnusr" eventually (since he has a #1 just like it that I sold him), and I would have liked the second one to keep.

Anyway, I'm not bitter, just disappointed.

ryostar · Post by **ryostar** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:15 am

whatever dude...

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:20 am

ryostar wrote:whatever dude...

Hmmmmmmmmm exactly, thank you for pointing out ANOTHER strange and concerning aspect of PGX...the "suspect" people they seem to be in bed with

(ie. Leder, ChristinasCollectibles, Ryostar ect...

)

This guy hasn't posted in how long?...NOW, for this post he shows up

Daniel, you have to do better than that my man, come on.

And another thing..am I the only one that finds it odd that the OWNER of PGX is lurking message boards

Don't you have like...a BUSINESS to run

I realize Whett must have ran and called you to inform you of this post, but dude...it doesn't look very good in my opinion, that you always posts on all these Comic message boards

Hey, do what you wish, doesn't matter to me mind you, i'll never use your "service"...but to new, potential customers...wow, poor marketing strategy

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:51 am

whetteon wrote:
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, am I held to a different standard of posting times than others Confused Am I not...allowed to post within the first 30 minutes of my first post? that seems to have bothered you?

So, let's see...you're teaching me something? Thumbs Up WHAT, i have yet to ascertain, but your rant makes little sense if you re-read it Neutral

There is INHERENT, mathematical RISK ...in the every day travels of your LIFE Rolling Eyes for you to believe you will EVER find ANYTHING that is 100% of anything...is ignorant of life. Sure they make mistakes, don't YOU Confused do you hold yourself to such a standard of 100% perfection,...every day of the year? Neutral

Laughing whatever dude, "the best I could do" means nothing to me here, this was about me pointing out facts, and you ignoring them...period! Cool

The BEST I could do?...if you say so Thumbs Up
Just trying to teach you that other "companies" have *SKREE* up too. And they *SKREE* up bad for ckb. You seem to glance over CGC's screw up but you aren't above making fiction stories about PGX. This confuses me. Then you avoid TheComicGuys post to you, and finally you pretend like you don't know what I'm talking about when YOU tried to call me about CGC not knowing how to encapsulate. I was justing showing you PROOF.

this was about me pointing out facts, and you ignoring them...period!
What facts? You pointed out NO facts and when people called you on it you claim ignorance or just mock them altoghter. I don't claim to be the best poster on the internet but I re-read my post and it makes sense that YOUR WRONG when you attacked my stance about CGC and their encapsulation of books.

Now you are just attacking my character and not the topic. Old trick.

But we can both agree on "whatever dude". Thanks for the laughs.. I'm out! Look me up when you got something factual to post.

NO FACTS

I pointed out NO facts?...hmmmmmmmm, let's see

Fact#

1) 10's of Millions of dollars worth of Comics are CGC encapsulated!

2) On average, less than 1% of CGC graded material has ever encountered "scs"

3) They have a background, and body of work in this industry that gives them clout, and legitimacy!

4) They have industry wide acceptence, and participation!

5) Their product adds value and service to the hobby.

6) They treat their customers fairly, and professionally!

...and on and on....Whett-dream

...open your eyes, being both blind and ignorant will kill you eventually

ya gotta laugh though, the anti-CGC crowd is not only predictible in their tact, but horribly devoid of a logical, nor intelligent, response

...wait, that sounds like...the Democratic party

whetteon · Post by **whetteon** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:52 am

Peter Parker wrote:
ryostar wrote:whatever dude...
Hmmmmmmmmm exactly, thank you for pointing out ANOTHER strange and concerning aspect of PGX...the "suspect" people they seem to be in bed with (ie. Leder, ChristinasCollectibles, Ryostar ect... )

This guy hasn't posted in how long?...NOW, for this post he shows up Daniel, you have to do better than that my man, come on.

And another thing..am I the only one that finds it odd that the OWNER of PGX is lurking message boards Don't you have like...a BUSINESS to run I realize Whett must have ran and called you to inform you of this post, but dude...it doesn't look very good in my opinion, that you always posts on all these Comic message boards

Hey, do what you wish, doesn't matter to me mind you, i'll never use your "service"...but to new, potential customers...wow, poor marketing strategy

I'm going to have and side with Peter on this. Ryostar's posting on the topic out of nowhere is awefully suspicious.

Looks like you won the debate!

Schmakt · Post by **Schmakt** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:05 pm

so I've seen some pretty good things backing up CGC...
(the list Peter provided)

but the only anti-PGX stuff I've seen has been, mostly, that they don't have the things CGC does (Clout, history, etc...)

maybe I just missed it in re-reading, but what is it about PGX not in relation to CGC that potentially makes it a bad company? Have a lot of books been ruined, or are you just saying that the grading is not accurate?

thanks...

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:36 pm

whetteon wrote:
Peter Parker wrote:
ryostar wrote:whatever dude...
Hmmmmmmmmm exactly, thank you for pointing out ANOTHER strange and concerning aspect of PGX...the "suspect" people they seem to be in bed with (ie. Leder, ChristinasCollectibles, Ryostar ect... )

This guy hasn't posted in how long?...NOW, for this post he shows up Daniel, you have to do better than that my man, come on.

And another thing..am I the only one that finds it odd that the OWNER of PGX is lurking message boards Don't you have like...a BUSINESS to run I realize Whett must have ran and called you to inform you of this post, but dude...it doesn't look very good in my opinion, that you always posts on all these Comic message boards

Hey, do what you wish, doesn't matter to me mind you, i'll never use your "service"...but to new, potential customers...wow, poor marketing strategy
I'm going to have and side with Peter on this. Ryostar's posting on the topic out of nowhere is awefully suspicious.

Looks like you won the debate!

Wasn't a debate to me Whettster

...more like a group analysis into the logic behind the usage of grading companies as a whole, and for which one a collector should use, and why

In the end, we ALL are avid comic book collectors (that may disagree from time to time) but ultimately, we serve our own interests, as well as those of the hobby as well

and those are good things to discuss

X-O HoboJoe · Post by **X-O HoboJoe** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:41 pm

Peter Parker wrote:In the end, we ALL are avid comic book collectors (that may disagree from time to time) but ultimately, we serve our own interests, as well as those of the hobby as well and those are good things to discuss

Well said.

Even if you're a Limbaugh fan

Thecomicguys · Post by **Thecomicguys** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:42 pm

Peter Parker wrote:
ryostar wrote:whatever dude...
Hmmmmmmmmm exactly, thank you for pointing out ANOTHER strange and concerning aspect of PGX...the "suspect" people they seem to be in bed with (ie. Leder, ChristinasCollectibles, Ryostar ect... )

This guy hasn't posted in how long?...NOW, for this post he shows up Daniel, you have to do better than that my man, come on.

And another thing..am I the only one that finds it odd that the OWNER of PGX is lurking message boards Don't you have like...a BUSINESS to run I realize Whett must have ran and called you to inform you of this post, but dude...it doesn't look very good in my opinion, that you always posts on all these Comic message boards

Hey, do what you wish, doesn't matter to me mind you, i'll never use your "service"...but to new, potential customers...wow, poor marketing strategy

I think part of running a business like this is responding to people's questions and concerns. I wish I had more time to post on forum boards and communicate more with the community.

Even when it is clear to most people when someone is just out to start trouble and spread lies and rumors I still feel tempted to post so people know that these things have no truth to them. From the feedback we have gotten many people are very happy that we post on different boards and answer questions.

Daniel

Thecomicguys · Post by **Thecomicguys** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:49 pm

Schmakt wrote:so I've seen some pretty good things backing up CGC...
(the list Peter provided)

but the only anti-PGX stuff I've seen has been, mostly, that they don't have the things CGC does (Clout, history, etc...)

maybe I just missed it in re-reading, but what is it about PGX not in relation to CGC that potentially makes it a bad company? Have a lot of books been ruined, or are you just saying that the grading is not accurate?

thanks...

The graders here all have a history in the comic industry and I have not heard of a 'SINGLE' book being damaged in the PGX holder.

Our grading is very accurate and consistent and that has been proven before. We will be happy to submit to any comparision between the two companies, be it the holder, the grading, the security of the holder, cost, turnaround times, customer service, etc.

We listen closely to our customer and make improvements everytime we find an area that can be improved.

Daniel

Peter Parker · Post by **Peter Parker** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:14 pm

Thecomicguys wrote:
Schmakt wrote:so I've seen some pretty good things backing up CGC...
(the list Peter provided)

but the only anti-PGX stuff I've seen has been, mostly, that they don't have the things CGC does (Clout, history, etc...)

maybe I just missed it in re-reading, but what is it about PGX not in relation to CGC that potentially makes it a bad company? Have a lot of books been ruined, or are you just saying that the grading is not accurate?

thanks...
The graders here all have a history in the comic industry and I have not heard of a 'SINGLE' book being damaged in the PGX holder.

Our grading is very accurate and consistent and that has been proven before. We will be happy to submit to any comparision between the two companies, be it the holder, the grading, the security of the holder, cost, turnaround times, customer service, etc.

We listen closely to our customer and make improvements everytime we find an area that can be improved.

Daniel

I stand by every accusation i've made

...you HAVE a had very suspect first few years, and that isn't based on "rumors & lies" Daniel, it's based on solid information...i'm far from alone on this subject ya know (of course you know that, defending these actions of yours is your 2nd business)

Good luck to ya