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dino wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:28:07 pm
nycjadie wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:24:58 am
ShadowTuga wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:37:44 am
nycjadie wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:04:08 am I will personally mail Bad Idea books to anyone, anywhere in the world. I am confident I can get copies.
That's mighty kind of you, bud. I might bug you if something drops that is completely unmissable, but... i don't think I will, tbh. :lol:

I mean, if a company "doesn't care" if some fans will be absolutely left out of their output... it just feels wrong. I can't endorse or support that with my dough in good conscience. I don't care for the "cool kids club" aspect of it, in fact, its actually a Bad Idea from a business perspective... but they certainly know what they are doing. These people made tremendously awesome comics when they ruled VEI.

Just curious: aren't they also limiting one copy per customer? How would you get extras, if you don't mind me asking.
There will be copies available as new stores get added. I have no doubt I can get a few extras, especially as I'll be sending them to folks abroad. Crazy times for comic stores right now. I suspect a few of the stores that BI agreed to distribute to will close or drop out. We shall see what it all looks like in the future.
Any store that wants to join is welcome. There will indeed be copies (in limited quantities) for new stores that join later. The books will be limited to one copy per customer. Not fostering a cool kids club, simply looking to meet the realistic demand without tricking stores into buying copies they can't sell or readers into buying copies they don't want.
Yeah, but how does the realistic demand for an LCS in a non-EN speaking country really look like? No such LCS could afford getting 10 copies for their 10 customers who may pre-order this. Besides not much of a profit margin because of the initial shipping cost, it's death by additional logistics especially keeping DC's solo in mind. Well, with #BadIdea around it's not much of a solo effort anymore.

What are the realistic chances of ever getting shiny Deluxe Edition hardcovers at some point?

Pretty sure the cool kids would like to have a collected edition....once they have their 1-per-cool-kid copy graded and slabbed by Cool Kids Club.

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Sunlight on Snow wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:40:44 am
dino wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:28:07 pm
nycjadie wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:24:58 am
ShadowTuga wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:37:44 am
nycjadie wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:04:08 am I will personally mail Bad Idea books to anyone, anywhere in the world. I am confident I can get copies.
That's mighty kind of you, bud. I might bug you if something drops that is completely unmissable, but... i don't think I will, tbh. :lol:

I mean, if a company "doesn't care" if some fans will be absolutely left out of their output... it just feels wrong. I can't endorse or support that with my dough in good conscience. I don't care for the "cool kids club" aspect of it, in fact, its actually a Bad Idea from a business perspective... but they certainly know what they are doing. These people made tremendously awesome comics when they ruled VEI.

Just curious: aren't they also limiting one copy per customer? How would you get extras, if you don't mind me asking.
There will be copies available as new stores get added. I have no doubt I can get a few extras, especially as I'll be sending them to folks abroad. Crazy times for comic stores right now. I suspect a few of the stores that BI agreed to distribute to will close or drop out. We shall see what it all looks like in the future.
Any store that wants to join is welcome. There will indeed be copies (in limited quantities) for new stores that join later. The books will be limited to one copy per customer. Not fostering a cool kids club, simply looking to meet the realistic demand without tricking stores into buying copies they can't sell or readers into buying copies they don't want.
Yeah, but how does the realistic demand for an LCS in a non-EN speaking country really look like? No such LCS could afford getting 10 copies for their 10 customers who may pre-order this. Besides not much of a profit margin because of the initial shipping cost, it's death by additional logistics especially keeping DC's solo in mind. Well, with #BadIdea around it's not much of a solo effort anymore.

What are the realistic chances of ever getting shiny Deluxe Edition hardcovers at some point?

Pretty sure the cool kids would like to have a collected edition....once they have their 1-per-cool-kid copy graded and slabbed by Cool Kids Club.
No collections.

If there's demand in non-EN speaking countries then likely a store there will get in touch. If not, readers will either be interested enough to find the books some other way or they won't

I hear the frustration in your cool kids club comment. It's not our intent to frustrate but I do understand that a throwback business model that ignores the philosophy of indulging as many buyer whims as you need to make a sale can have that effect on those most used to the convenience. However, this is the road we feel is best. Thus far all signs point to it working for us. Knowing what we have planned I think it will only frustrate you further. Bad Idea might, for you, just be a bad idea.

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FormerReader wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:16:53 pm
nycjadie wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:46:21 am I spent some time clicking this morning!
As have I. :high-five:
Does anyone else keep getting a feeling people are talking about self pleasuring?
I've been looking everywhere for the ultra-rare Turok vs Blister issue. Anybody able to help me out?

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Yeah, but how does the realistic demand for an LCS in a non-EN speaking country really look like? No such LCS could afford getting 10 copies for their 10 customers who may pre-order this. Besides not much of a profit margin because of the initial shipping cost, it's death by additional logistics especially keeping DC's solo in mind. Well, with #BadIdea around it's not much of a solo effort anymore.

What are the realistic chances of ever getting shiny Deluxe Edition hardcovers at some point?

Pretty sure the cool kids would like to have a collected edition....once they have their 1-per-cool-kid copy graded and slabbed by Cool Kids Club.
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No collections.

If there's demand in non-EN speaking countries then likely a store there will get in touch. If not, readers will either be interested enough to find the books some other way or they won't

I hear the frustration in your cool kids club comment. It's not our intent to frustrate but I do understand that a throwback business model that ignores the philosophy of indulging as many buyer whims as you need to make a sale can have that effect on those most used to the convenience. However, this is the road we feel is best. Thus far all signs point to it working for us. Knowing what we have planned I think it will only frustrate you further. Bad Idea might, for you, just be a bad idea.[/quote]

Love this. You have a plan. You are passionate about it. And you will take the entrepreneurial risk to see if this model will work. I’m on board. You have a powerhouse creative team, so those brightest VEI stars we love believe in you and Warren, even when the overall comic industry continues to decline. I’m looking forward to the journey. Count my $s in.

I’m actually hoping it will break me free from my VEI rare variant obsession. I’ve got a bone to pick with you. You’ve single handedly put a hurt on my bank account along with an unhealthy amount of time on EBay!

Hoping BadIdea finds success.


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Sunlight on Snow wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:40:44 am No collections.

If there's demand in non-EN speaking countries then likely a store there will get in touch. If not, readers will either be interested enough to find the books some other way or they won't

I hear the frustration in your cool kids club comment. It's not our intent to frustrate but I do understand that a throwback business model that ignores the philosophy of indulging as many buyer whims as you need to make a sale can have that effect on those most used to the convenience. However, this is the road we feel is best. Thus far all signs point to it working for us. Knowing what we have planned I think it will only frustrate you further. Bad Idea might, for you, just be a bad idea.
Personally I am board with the no variant, no nonsense approach. While a few occasional variants were kind of cool at first, the whole thing quickly got out of control and it became a "my variant can beat up your variant" situation and that was not cool.

The 'no collections' I just don't understand. I personally purchased 20-25 extra VEI TPBs to have my LCS give them away during their yearly anniversary (in hopes of exposing people to valiant and thus gaining more valiant fans locally). I also lend out my Deluxe HCs to friends again in hopes they too become Valiant fans (one of my friends is mad in love with NINJAK now since I gifted him the first 3 TBS and has since bought all other TBS of all the ninka runs including the Valiant Masters one) How can I possibly gift/recruit anyone locally now when i cannot get more than 1 copy per issue and no collections? I dont know that I am willing to lend my own copies to anyone to expose them to the excellent material. Suppose I did lend my copies out and my friend falls completely in love with it and wants his own collection - well he would be out of luck being that there probably wouldn't be very many older issues available for sale. that itself will be a turn off for new readers down the line.

The idea of eliminating the cool kids club is sound and will likely work well in the beginning but I can see that 'some' people will pass on the company in the future because they will be unable to 'catch up'. This works for me because I will get my 1 copy but this is essentially creating a whole new set of 'cool kids club' - "I was there from the get go and you weren't", "I have all 4 issues of Eniac and you can't get them peasant!" etc...

Just my thoughts.

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Just to clarify this: I have no problem with the Cool Kids Club.

I have a problem with no collections.

But I guess I'll just wait for my floppies at the front door, read them, and finally sell them for some cash.

I have a feeling not too many copies will be floating around here. :P

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Oxmyx wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:12:32 pm
FormerReader wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:16:53 pm
nycjadie wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:46:21 am I spent some time clicking this morning!
As have I. :high-five:
Does anyone else keep getting a feeling people are talking about self pleasuring?
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geocarr wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:09:51 pm
Oxmyx wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:12:32 pm
FormerReader wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:16:53 pm
nycjadie wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:46:21 am I spent some time clicking this morning!
As have I. :high-five:
Does anyone else keep getting a feeling people are talking about self pleasuring?
:funnypost:
I wore myself out with all that clicking. I need a break... and some water.

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Nameless7 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:37:51 am
geocarr wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:09:51 pm
Oxmyx wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:12:32 pm
FormerReader wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:16:53 pm
nycjadie wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:46:21 am I spent some time clicking this morning!
As have I. :high-five:
Does anyone else keep getting a feeling people are talking about self pleasuring?
:funnypost:
I wore myself out with all that clicking. I need a break... and some water.
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Nameless7 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:37:51 am
geocarr wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:09:51 pm
Oxmyx wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:12:32 pm
FormerReader wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:16:53 pm
nycjadie wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:46:21 am I spent some time clicking this morning!
As have I. :high-five:
Does anyone else keep getting a feeling people are talking about self pleasuring?
:funnypost:
I wore myself out with all that clicking. I need a break... and some water.

Greg said he got the most gratification from setting something heavy on it. Maybe try that next time. Sounds to me like you won't wear yourself out.
I've been looking everywhere for the ultra-rare Turok vs Blister issue. Anybody able to help me out?

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Has it happened to anyone else that you are clicking the button and then it gets bigger? This has happened to me several times on my iPad.

If button clicking persists for 4 hours or more, consult a physician.

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I asked my wife to come in and watch me click. She was strangely into it.


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aj583 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:40:57 pm I asked my wife to come in and watch me click. She was strangely into it.
Lucky!
I've been looking everywhere for the ultra-rare Turok vs Blister issue. Anybody able to help me out?

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dino wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:20:15 am #STARVETHEBUTTON!!!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1290645607451951108
But...... how else will I be able to get office supplies from Staples?! :-?

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syzhang28 wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:36:24 pm Image
Clearly, it's Schon's evil sister!

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aj583 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:40:57 pm I asked my wife to come in and watch me click. She was strangely into it.
You see! I was right!

Just look at their Facebook talking feelings in the loins!
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New leaks from the button. some cool art from villalobos

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Looks great! I hope we get more information on their publishing plan soon. It looks like they have multiple books planned.

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so about the "one per customer" deal. is it like one per household?

I am trying to convince my brother to pick up bad idea books as well but due to the current crisis, he is temporarily living with me in a bubble (auto-immune condition).

So can two of us in the same "address" request one copy a piece?

Does anyone know how this works?

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Nameless7 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:47:51 pm so about the "one per customer" deal. is it like one per household?

I am trying to convince my brother to pick up bad idea books as well but due to the current crisis, he is temporarily living with me in a bubble (auto-immune condition).

So can two of us in the same "address" request one copy a piece?

Does anyone know how this works?
I think they just want to make sure every copy goes to a real person who will read it not to someone who will horde 20 copies. So if you and your brother are two people I think you can get 2 copies

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ShadowTuga.
Try forbiden Planet uk. They have mail order, may save you a few Euros on shipping, rather than getting from USA.
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