First look at Vin Diesel as Bloodshot

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Cool photo. Thanks for sharing. :thumb:
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I was looking for Dino in the photo (I don't see him). However, there are 2 people with "NERD BOSS" hats on their heads.

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Love that pic. Exciting stuff for Valiant fans! :clap:

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Kevin Van Hook posted this on Facebook.

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I thought Riddick's eyes were silver?!?

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I guess ... it looks like they drew in a bit of hair, too.

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Phantom wrote:I like Greg's post about a bomb or flop. (Although not linked to sums below.)
If I invested 300m on a film and it brought back 315m, I have made 5% on a large investment, but with ALOT of risk.
Van Deisel big star lowers risk.
5% for such a huge investment is not worth it. Is it a flop? Bomb? No.
Not quite. Production budget is only part of the equation.

Marketing is typically 50% to 100% again of production budget.

And of course movie theatres take their cut.

Hence a movie like Justice League 'made' hundreds of millions above its production budget but reportedly actually lost money.
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Ok. Bummer.
So is justice league a flop?
I suppose, for investors yes.
Maybe returns will drip in over the years to break even.
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Ok. Bummer.
So is justice league a flop?
I suppose, for investors yes.
Maybe returns will drip in over the years to break even.
I wish their was a Spinal Tap comic, and I had a copy CGC graded at 11.

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Ok. Bummer.
So is justice league a flop?
I suppose, for investors yes.
Maybe returns will drip in over the years to break even.
I wish their was a Spinal Tap comic, and I had a copy CGC graded at 11.

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Sorry. Wi-Fi fail. Multipost
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Phantom wrote:Ok. Bummer.
So is justice league a flop?
I suppose, for investors yes.
Maybe returns will drip in over the years to break even.
By many estimates, yes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmende ... 0c736f7942" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think the negative online reaction to JL was undeserved BTW, and it is a film i enjoyed more than BvS for example.

On blockbuster marketing: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... les-721818" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Movie theatres may take as much as 40%: https://theweek.com/articles/647394/whe ... that-money" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And don't forget to strip out sales tax (e.g. VAT in the UK).

So if JL cost $300 million to make, say a conservative $150 million in global marketing, and assuming it got 50% sales for aggregate for distribution (a conservative 10% on sales tax, 40% to theatres to pay staff and overheads), then it may have lost over $120 million.

To break even in that scenario above, it needed to make around $900 million which wouldn't even put it in the top ten grossing superhero films. It may have needed to make less if the studio drove a harder bargain on its cut, but even at 60% it would have needed $750 million, and that is using a low-ball marketing estimate.
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Phantom wrote:Sorry. Wi-Fi fail. Multipost
:thumb:
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Wow.
Just ..Wow.

Talk about high risk, geeez.

That's a lot of cash to blow, I suppose the film industry is more like trying to find the next investment unicorn.
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Phantom wrote:Wow.
Just ..Wow.

Talk about high risk, geeez.

That's a lot of cash to blow, I suppose the film industry is more like trying to find the next investment unicorn.
Not always. This is just tent-pole territory. Take a movie like Split which at $9 million for production probably made a huge per dollar return on investment. Even Glass is rumoured to have cost only $20 million, which means profit can be found.

JL had a lot of re-shoots as execs chased a different film than Snyder was making. Aquaman by comparison was 33% to 50% of the production budget of JL and made more than $300 million more.
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