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July 2016 Sales Discussion

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And so it begins...

RETAIL MARKET SHARE
DC ENTERTAINMENT - 35.36%
MARVEL COMICS - 34.20%
IMAGE COMICS - 8.15%
IDW PUBLISHING - 4.49%
DARK HORSE COMICS - 2.83%
BOOM! STUDIOS - 2.05%
ARCHIE COMICS - 1.36%
VALIANT ENTERTAINMENT LLC - 1.06%
DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT - 1.19%
ONI PRESS INC. - 1.14%
OTHER NON-TOP 10 - 8.18%


UNIT MARKET SHARE
DC ENTERTAINMENT - 40.96%
MARVEL COMICS - 35.69%
IMAGE COMICS - 7.56%
IDW PUBLISHING - 3.00%
DARK HORSE COMICS - 1.98%
BOOM! STUDIOS - 1.68%
ARCHIE COMICS - 1.26%
VALIANT ENTERTAINMENT LLC - 1.03%
DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT - 0.95%
ONI PRESS INC. - 0.84%
OTHER NON-TOP 10 - 5.06%
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Exciting 1%
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Yep! About time we see some positive movement!

This is just July, think what August will bring! Faith #1, 4001 WarMother, 4001#4, etc. Should be another strong month coming up!

wait, Faith was July.....
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Interesting... I copied the above rankings off of Newsarama, and the Retail Market Share has Valiant out of order so that it synchs up with the Unit Market Share. Corrected, it looks like this:

RETAIL MARKET SHARE
DC ENTERTAINMENT - 35.36%
MARVEL COMICS - 34.20%
IMAGE COMICS - 8.15%
IDW PUBLISHING - 4.49%
DARK HORSE COMICS - 2.83%
BOOM! STUDIOS - 2.05%
ARCHIE COMICS - 1.36%
Dynamite (sucks!) ENTERTAINMENT - 1.19%
ONI PRESS INC. - 1.14%
VALIANT ENTERTAINMENT LLC - 1.06%
OTHER NON-TOP 10 - 8.18%

UNIT MARKET SHARE
DC ENTERTAINMENT - 40.96%
MARVEL COMICS - 35.69%
IMAGE COMICS - 7.56%
IDW PUBLISHING - 3.00%
DARK HORSE COMICS - 1.98%
BOOM! STUDIOS - 1.68%
ARCHIE COMICS - 1.26%
VALIANT ENTERTAINMENT LLC - 1.03%
Dynamite (sucks!) ENTERTAINMENT - 0.95%
ONI PRESS INC. - 0.84%
OTHER NON-TOP 10 - 5.06%
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103 Faith #1 - 22,386
168 4001 AD #3 - 13,102
194 Divinity II #4 - 9,755
219 A&A #5 - 8,324
225 Bloodshot Reborn #15 - 8,106
228 X-O Manowar #48 - 7,903
230 4001 AD: Shadowman #1 - 7,842
247 Rai #15 - 6,677
259 Ninjak #17 - 6,151
265 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior #9 - 5,814

26 Faith vol. 1 - 2,381 4,881
146 Bloodshot Reborn vol. 3 - 765
149 Acclaim Shadowman - 758
225 Imperium vol. 4 - 507
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Do some of thoes numbers seam low?
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265 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior #9 - 5,814
Nearing that 5K cancellation zone. :(

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It's interesting to note that A&A #5 sold 1,876 MORE copies than A&A #4 which is a +29% spike above the previous issue!

4001 A.D. #3 sold only slightly less than 4001 A.D. #2, which isn't that bad when you consider that there is an expected decline in sales as a series progresses (in most cases that is).

Also, WotEW #9 sold 173 fewer books than WotEW #8 did, which is quite small. This book has actually been VERY GOOD and it is a shame that the numbers do not reflect this.

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DirtbagSailor wrote:It's interesting to note that A&A #5 sold 1,876 MORE copies than A&A #4 which is a +29% spike above the previous issue!
Well, Faith was in #5 and the story in that was AWESOME! They also had a new artist. I know some folks liked the art in #1-4, but for me I was glad to see the change in #5.
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Wish we could get good digital sales numbers.

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Keith wrote: 26 Faith vol. 1 - 2,381 4,881
146 Bloodshot Reborn vol. 3 - 765
149 Acclaim Shadowman - 758
225 Imperium vol. 4 - 507
Why are their two numbers for Faith volume 1?

Also, I'm surprised by the low numbers on Imperium Volume 4. Maybe because it was released later in the month though...

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Zhuge1 wrote:
Keith wrote: 26 Faith vol. 1 - 2,381 4,881
146 Bloodshot Reborn vol. 3 - 765
149 Acclaim Shadowman - 758
225 Imperium vol. 4 - 507
Why are their two numbers for Faith volume 1?

Also, I'm surprised by the low numbers on Imperium Volume 4. Maybe because it was released later in the month though...
I think it was a second printing of that trade, so the large number takes into account for previous sales.
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There's also a Hastings Entertainment variant of the Faith Vol. 1 Trade.
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nonplayer wrote:Do some of thoes numbers seam low?
Not that bad, it seems...

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UNIT MARKET SHARE

1 - 0.96% - DC ENTERTAINMENT
2 - 35.69% - MARVEL COMICS
3 - 7.56% - IMAGE COMICS
4 - 3.00% - IDW PUBLISHING
5 - 1.98% - DARK HORSE COMICS
6 - 1.68% - BOOM! STUDIOS
7 - 1.26% - ARCHIE COMICS
8 - 1.03% - VALIANT ENTERTAINMENT LLC
9 - 0.95% - DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT
10 - 0.84% - ONI PRESS INC.
11 - 0.69% - TITAN COMICS
12 - 0.40% - AFTERSHOCK COMICS
13 - 0.37% - ZENESCOPE ENTERTAINMENT INC
14 - 0.34% - VIZ MEDIA
15 - 0.34% - ACTION LAB ENTERTAINMENT
16 - 0.29% - JOE BOOKS INC.
17 - 0.19% - UDON ENTERTAINMENT INC
18 - 0.18% - AVATAR PRESS INC
19 - 0.17% - RANDOM HOUSE
20 - 0.16% - AMERICAN MYTHOLOGY PRODUCTIONS
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1.94% - OTHER NON-TOP 20

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Nairbe wrote:
265 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior #9 - 5,814
Nearing that 5K cancellation zone. :(
Which is sad. Where are you people at? Not reading Gilad's solo it seems.
Issue #10 just wrapped up what was essentially a 10 part told in two acts opening salvo about a new foe for Gilad called "The Dying One". You guys really need to support this book! Good stuff finally. I admit I felt it was treading water there in the middle but stuck with it and I feel the pay off was worth it.

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Captain Craig wrote:
Nairbe wrote:
265 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior #9 - 5,814
Nearing that 5K cancellation zone. :(
Which is sad. Where are you people at? Not reading Gilad's solo it seems.
Issue #10 just wrapped up what was essentially a 10 part told in two acts opening salvo about a new foe for Gilad called "The Dying One". You guys really need to support this book! Good stuff finally. I admit I felt it was treading water there in the middle but stuck with it and I feel the pay off was worth it.
I thought the 1st arc was amazing, and the 2nd arc, while just set-up, still had gorgeous art. What a shame this one is selling so poorly.

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WotEW is not the series everyone though it was going to be.

But...

It turned out to be EVERYTHING IT SHOULD BE (and more)! :clap:

Very strong series.

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DirtbagSailor wrote:WotEW is not the series everyone though it was going to be.

But...

It turned out to be EVERYTHING IT SHOULD BE (and more)! :clap:

Very strong series.
Agreed.

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Valiant has done a fantastic job of kicking things up a notch for Gilad. He was became too much of a supporting character in Unity. Now he's a boss.
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nice to see Faith #1 did slightly better than the previous Faith #1 (22,019).


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