The Outcast

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:12 pm

So any love for this book now? Are there any future plans for this character?

http://www.valiantdatabase.com/books/18 ... -breyfogle" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:13 pm

I hear it's been optioned for a series on Showtime

possumgrease · Post by **possumgrease** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:52 pm

I felt the series ended a little too soon. So many dangling plot threads like, what is this book about? and what's it doing with a Valiant logo?

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:57 pm

jeremycoe wrote:I hear it's been optioned for a series on Showtime

It would be a cheap maneuver, but putting out an "Outcast" mini at the time the Kirkman show premiers might help move some books

Shadowman99 · Post by **Shadowman99** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:17 pm

BugsySig wrote:
jeremycoe wrote:I hear it's been optioned for a series on Showtime
It would be a cheap maneuver, but putting out an "Outcast" mini at the time the Kirkman show premiers might help move some books

Haha, that's a Dynamite style move right?

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:32 pm

Well, I went ahead and bought 10 copies. Just in case.

Sven the Returned · Post by **Sven the Returned** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:50 am

What was he about?

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:31 am

Lady Oiorpata wrote:What was he about?

I'd say 8ft, 700lbs

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:01 pm

So I got a few of these and read one (it had been a while). Pretty forgettable story that felt like it was leading somewhere and then ... nothing. Oh, Acclaim.

Cool art by Breyfogle, though.

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:13 pm

depluto wrote:So I got a few of these and read one (it had been a while). Pretty forgettable story that felt like it was leading somewhere and then ... nothing. Oh, Acclaim.

Cool art by Breyfogle, though.

I was listening to V-ditti interview on OTV and he confirmed the big dude in BoD (upper left / page 6 of the braithwaite section -- looking creepily at ninjak and livewire makeout) is indeed Outcast.

So yeah .. good idea to pick up a few copies of the acclaim comic on the cheap now

You got it off Ebay?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Outcast-1-D ... 48811f1d84" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just picked up 2 copies myself

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:32 pm

Although that seems to be VEI selling them. Maybe they wouldn't do that if they had big plans for the character.

bygranddesign · Post by **bygranddesign** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:40 pm

depluto wrote:Although that seems to be VEI selling them. Maybe they wouldn't do that if they had big plans for the character.

Yeah I noticed that.

But I wouldn't be surprised if they have a box full of this comic

So maybe they test the market and sell a few now ... knowing they have more where that came from to sell later if they do decide to make a big splash with the character

The fact that he has a panel to himself in BoD ..and they mention him by name -- probably means they have something big planned for the character down the line. Also they made a point of challenging Kirkman ..so they do value the IP.

possumgrease · Post by **possumgrease** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:02 pm

Very interesting indeed.

Ras the future fan · Post by **Ras the future fan** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:57 am

BugsySig wrote:
Lady Oiorpata wrote:What was he about?
I'd say 8ft, 700lbs

Based on what I read at the Valiant Database, was Outcast basically Hulk with an alien twist?

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:25 am

bygranddesign wrote:
depluto wrote:Although that seems to be VEI selling them. Maybe they wouldn't do that if they had big plans for the character.

Yeah I noticed that.

But I wouldn't be surprised if they have a box full of this comic

So maybe they test the market and sell a few now ... knowing they have more where that came from to sell later if they do decide to make a big splash with the character

The fact that he has a panel to himself in BoD ..and they mention him by name -- probably means they have something big planned for the character down the line. Also they made a point of challenging Kirkman ..so they do value the IP.

Those copies are in poor condition, listed as 3.0s. I also don't think that's really Valiant Entertainment. The logo and location don't fit, and neither does the stock, being old.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:26 am

Ras the future fan wrote:
BugsySig wrote:
Lady Oiorpata wrote:What was he about?
I'd say 8ft, 700lbs
Based on what I read at the Valiant Database, was Outcast basically Hulk with an alien twist?

More or less.

greg · Post by **greg** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:48 pm

Retaining a registered trademark requires using it in commerce.

The circle-R is there in the title of the auction, and each sale is commerce.

They're protecting the trademark.

hunter_peterson · Post by **hunter_peterson** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:37 pm

I thought that the character had decent potential if rebooted into the current Valiant Universe, so I'm glad that VEI agrees. It'll be interesting to see what role the character plays.

bravura1 · Post by **bravura1** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:04 pm

jeremycoe It isnt the smae character.

http://m.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a ... UJZX9lEofr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt4229954/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jeremycoe · Post by **jeremycoe** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:41 pm

bravura1 wrote:jeremycoe It isnt the smae character.

http://m.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a ... UJZX9lEofr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt4229954/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm VERY aware of that. It was a joke. On the internet.

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:08 am

It could be in a crossover with Plasmer.

BugsySig · Post by **BugsySig** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:58 am

depluto wrote:It could be in a crossover with Plasmer.

Bring in Plasmer!

We want Plasmer!

kjjohanson · Post by **kjjohanson** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:34 pm

greg wrote:Retaining a registered trademark requires using it in commerce.

The circle-R is there in the title of the auction, and each sale is commerce.

They're protecting the trademark.

I doubt that selling used comic books would be sufficient in that regard.

It should be noted that the book is available on Comixology, which I imagine should be sufficient for trademark retention without having to f*** about with back issue sales.

nycjadie · Post by **nycjadie** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:32 pm

kjjohanson wrote:
greg wrote:Retaining a registered trademark requires using it in commerce.

The circle-R is there in the title of the auction, and each sale is commerce.

They're protecting the trademark.
I doubt that selling used comic books would be sufficient in that regard.

It should be noted that the book is available on Comixology, which I imagine should be sufficient for trademark retention without having to f*** about with back issue sales.

Agree. In their recent trademark filings, they just put a copy of the 1990's printed books in there. Still not clear that its actually VEI and not another entity. Can't tell.

depluto · Post by **depluto** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:37 pm

nycjadie wrote:Still not clear that its actually VEI and not another entity. Can't tell.

They ship out of Philly. VEI doesn't have anything up that way, do they?

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