Origin of Harada - discussion

[Dr. Solar]

I know this is off topic, and I apologize, but I was finally able to locate a copy of the new story and I had a couple of thoughts:
I like the comparison between Kris and Harada's wife. They were chosen, they didn't really have a choice.
I love that Harada's wife is a cutter, but I'm not buying how deep she cut herself and then just walk away.
The blind seer bit is a bit cliche, but interesting. Her powers seem to more closely resemble those of 20-20 and maybe some other minor powers. It raises an interesting question: can there be a harbinger with just popping power?
And I do have to agree with the original comments on the thread, it is too short and it really does not answer anything. It was nice to see the thumper reference though.

Actually, amazingly, this is ON-topic.

One of the things I noticed in my re-read of this was the similarities between Kris and Mrs. Harada, and how they became the significant other of their respective partner.

It made me wonder if the direction the character was going to go was some sort of, "they are more similar than we think" kind of direction.

[Blood of Heroes]

It took 20 pages to get back on topic?

It would seem that anyone with the ability to get into your head could trigger harbinger powers. Not just an omega harbinger.

[DJSpecter]

I like the comparison between Kris and Harada's wife. They were chosen, they didn't really have a choice.
It raises an interesting question: can there be a harbinger with just popping power?

One of the things I noticed in my re-read of this was the similarities between Kris and Mrs. Harada, and how they became the significant other of their respective partner.

It made me wonder if the direction the character was going to go was some sort of, "they are more similar than we think" kind of direction.

It all kind of ties in with Harada's feeling that either Peter could join him or would need to be disposed. If he wasn't going to be his partner and successor, the only other logical (and literary) position is as the complementing opposition.

It would seem that anyone with the ability to get into your head could trigger harbinger powers. Not just an omega harbinger.

Your conclusion is logical. In which case, what is the trigger? We previously thought that traumatic experience could ALSO trigger powers. But it may be that there is only one switch: that a certain nerve is hit. Which would necessarily happen when mind reading took place and could also happen at any time (likely when in extreme trauma).

[ManofTheAtom]

Your conclusion is logical. In which case, what is the trigger? We previously thought that traumatic experience could ALSO trigger powers. But it may be that there is only one switch: that a certain nerve is hit. Which would necessarily happen when mind reading took place and could also happen at any time (likely when in extreme trauma).

What we know is that the abilities are triggered by great stress. That's when the individual becomes aware that he's different and calls the foundation.

Once they go there, Harada goes over their head and "pops" them.

We know that Rowena popped Harada.

We know that Faith, Torque, and Flamingo wrote to the foundation because their abilities had been triggered.

We know that Pete popped them.

The question is, who popped Pete?

And if you think about it, maybe what this HC needed was an "Origin of Stanchek" short story, heh.

Not to complain, I loved this story, from the credit box to the last page, but if the point behind these short stories is to answer lingering questions, then which question required an answer, who popped Harada or who popped Stanchek?

Well, there's always the next HC to answer that question, heh.

[DJSpecter]

Your conclusion is logical. In which case, what is the trigger? We previously thought that traumatic experience could ALSO trigger powers. But it may be that there is only one switch: that a certain nerve is hit. Which would necessarily happen when mind reading took place and could also happen at any time (likely when in extreme trauma).

What we know is that the abilities are triggered by great stress. That's when the individual becomes aware that he's different and calls the foundation.

Once they go there, Harada goes over their head and "pops" them.

We know that Rowena popped Harada.

We know that Faith, Torque, and Flamingo wrote to the foundation because their abilities had been triggered.

We know that Pete popped them.

The question is, who popped Pete?

And if you think about it, maybe what this HC needed was an "Origin of Stanchek" short story, heh.

Not to complain, I loved this story, from the credit box to the last page, but if the point behind these short stories is to answer lingering questions, then which question required an answer, who popped Harada or who popped Stanchek?

Well, there's always the next HC to answer that question, heh.

Maybe I misspoke, when I said "trigger" I mean "pop." It seems that the early signs of Harbinger power become evident during the bodies maturing process. An Omega, it would seem, is capable of coming to the full maturity of their Harbinger power on their own. Rowena came into play when Harada was very very young, before the full power could have developed naturally.

[Blood of Heroes]

Your conclusion is logical. In which case, what is the trigger? We previously thought that traumatic experience could ALSO trigger powers. But it may be that there is only one switch: that a certain nerve is hit. Which would necessarily happen when mind reading took place and could also happen at any time (likely when in extreme trauma).

What we know is that the abilities are triggered by great stress. That's when the individual becomes aware that he's different and calls the foundation.

Once they go there, Harada goes over their head and "pops" them.

We know that Rowena popped Harada.

We know that Faith, Torque, and Flamingo wrote to the foundation because their abilities had been triggered.

We know that Pete popped them.

The question is, who popped Pete?

And if you think about it, maybe what this HC needed was an "Origin of Stanchek" short story, heh.

Not to complain, I loved this story, from the credit box to the last page, but if the point behind these short stories is to answer lingering questions, then which question required an answer, who popped Harada or who popped Stanchek?

Well, there's always the next HC to answer that question, heh.

Maybe I misspoke, when I said "trigger" I mean "pop." It seems that the early signs of Harbinger power become evident during the bodies maturing process. An Omega, it would seem, is capable of coming to the full maturity of their Harbinger power on their own. Rowena came into play when Harada was very very young, before the full power could have developed naturally.

I agree. I think Pete's powers developed on their own. Harbinger just helped him fine tune them.

[cjv]

It could be that some semblence of the power is present even in someone who is not "popped". The strength of their latent powers is just relative to the strength of their own powers. Thus, someone with a relatively weak power (flight) might not have anything significant how (other than bouncing in the bed when they wake up) while an Omega harbinger will actually develop some powers on their own.

Chris

[xodacia81]

I do wonder how much this story is setting up events in the (I hope it happens) relaunched universe.

[tarheelmarine]

It sure feels though that Shooter ripped off Heroes though.

A southern girl who controls fire.
One who flies.
A Japanese businessman who thinks he's in control.
A guy named Pete who has so many powers he could be the key to everything.

Yep, sounds like Heroes alright. Except, it's all from Harbinger 1992 first.

Doesn't Loeb write Heroes or at least contribute to it? I am sure he was influenced by Harbinger. Isn't imitation the sincereest form of flattery?

[greg]

It sure feels though that Shooter ripped off Heroes though.

A southern girl who controls fire.
One who flies.
A Japanese businessman who thinks he's in control.
A guy named Pete who has so many powers he could be the key to everything.

Yep, sounds like Heroes alright. Except, it's all from Harbinger 1992 first.

Doesn't Loeb write Heroes or at least contribute to it? I am sure he was influenced by Harbinger. Isn't imitation the sincereest form of flattery?

An update...

There is now an immortal whose name is "Adam" (instead of Aram).

[Cyberstrike]

It sure feels though that Shooter ripped off Heroes though.

A southern girl who controls fire.
One who flies.
A Japanese businessman who thinks he's in control.
A guy named Pete who has so many powers he could be the key to everything.

Yep, sounds like Heroes alright. Except, it's all from Harbinger 1992 first.

Doesn't Loeb write Heroes or at least contribute to it? I am sure he was influenced by Harbinger. Isn't imitation the sincereest form of flattery?

An update...

There is now an immortal whose name is "Adam" (instead of Aram).