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Reading my bound Ninjak book...

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Although Im enjoy the books a little.. the stories dont seem to really have the VALIANT feel to them. Sure Bloodshot shows up near the end of the series but ... meh...

It seems to have a James Bond feel to it, which is fine. Maybe there werent enough crossovers with other characters?? Not sure..

What does everyone else think?

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I read Ninjak from #1 up to Chaos Effect. I don't remember a thing about it.

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I don't consider Ninjak to be a Valiant or even ACk-lame character.

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Right.. there seems to be very little tie-in to the rest of the Valiant U. The only thing I can think of is that both of Colin Kings parents were injected with some sort of Nanite laden formula in an attempt to build a super soldier, maybe like they are trying to reproduce harbinger abilities.

I will read it through to the end.. see if anything else pops up :?

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I didn't care for either version of Ninjak, but I did like the way Acclaim used Colin as a James Bond type of character (without the lame ninja stuff). Actually, that probably would have fit better into the VU than the version we got.

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I read through a later issue where Colin works with Bloodshot. At the end of the story arc, it is revealed that Bloodshot and Colin exchanged blood or more acuurately Bloodshot placed some nanites in Colins blood to keep track of him. I thought that wa a bit of good writing.

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IanAlexavier wrote:I read through a later issue where Colin works with Bloodshot. At the end of the story arc, it is revealed that Bloodshot and Colin exchanged blood or more acuurately Bloodshot placed some nanites in Colins blood to keep track of him. I thought that wa a bit of good writing.
Im on the bandwagon as well....I feel that the story progressed as the issue number went up....hows that for irony in the VU - AC debacle?

I have read up almost the last issue (still looking for that one....)

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I just started re-reading Ninjak on Monday. So far, i've read issues 0, 00, 1, 2, and 3.

I can honestly say i've enjoyed this session of Ninjak reading the most so far. The 0 and 00 issues are quite good in quality when it comes to origin stories :)

I really dig the James Bond-meets-Batman feel of Colin's character :) Plus, you can't go wrong with Joe Quesada's artwork in issues 1-3 :)

I'm looking forward to reading the rest of the title to see how well it flows from beginning to end.

Interesting tidbit...in issues 0 and 00, there are a couple characters named "Abnett" and "Lanning." Lol...

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JonesyAZ wrote:I just started re-reading Ninjak on Monday. So far, i've read issues 0, 00, 1, 2, and 3.

I can honestly say i've enjoyed this session of Ninjak reading the most so far. The 0 and 00 issues are quite good in quality when it comes to origin stories :)

I really dig the James Bond-meets-Batman feel of Colin's character :) Plus, you can't go wrong with Joe Quesada's artwork in issues 1-3 :)

I'm looking forward to reading the rest of the title to see how well it flows from beginning to end.

Interesting tidbit...in issues 0 and 00, there are a couple characters named "Abnett" and "Lanning." Lol...
:screwy:

Just sayin'..

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Unblessed wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:I just started re-reading Ninjak on Monday. So far, i've read issues 0, 00, 1, 2, and 3.

I can honestly say i've enjoyed this session of Ninjak reading the most so far. The 0 and 00 issues are quite good in quality when it comes to origin stories :)

I really dig the James Bond-meets-Batman feel of Colin's character :) Plus, you can't go wrong with Joe Quesada's artwork in issues 1-3 :)

I'm looking forward to reading the rest of the title to see how well it flows from beginning to end.

Interesting tidbit...in issues 0 and 00, there are a couple characters named "Abnett" and "Lanning." Lol...
:screwy:

Just sayin'..
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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I read some more Ninjak over the weekend; now up to issue 10.

I definitely might be crazy, but I am really enjoying this book! I'm looking forward to seeing how Ninjak takes down Dr. Silk in the later issues :)

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Guys! We need to do an intervention here guys before we lose Jonesy!

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dave wrote:Guys! We need to do an intervention here guys before we lose Jonesy!
Next thing you know, he'll be liking Deathmate....

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dave wrote:Guys! We need to do an intervention here guys before we lose Jonesy!
Next thing you know, he'll be liking Deathmate....
I blame it on Valiant Vision. Jonesy has been wearing those glasses for months. That's got to have an effect on him.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You guys rule!

The thing is, my first Valiant books when I was a wee child were Ninjak #1, Deathmate, Valiant Vision Starter Kit, and X-O Manowar 0. While I now certainly realize how horrid V.V. and Deathmate are, I really do still dig Ninjak. I think it is because Batman is my all-time favorite superhero next to Vertigo's Sandman, and Ninjak is definitely a knock-off of bats (the wealthy playboy superhero aspect anyway).

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JonesyAZ wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You guys rule!

The thing is, my first Valiant books when I was a wee child were Ninjak #1, Deathmate, Valiant Vision Starter Kit, and X-O Manowar 0. While I now certainly realize how horrid V.V. and Deathmate are, I really do still dig Ninjak. I think it is because Batman is my all-time favorite superhero next to Vertigo's Sandman, and Ninjak is definitely a knock-off of bats (the wealthy playboy superhero aspect anyway).
So, if Batman is your favorite, then what did you think of the punch Hal landed on Bruce in Rebirth? Me, I thought it was the least Bruce deserved, at the time.

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xodacia81 wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You guys rule!

The thing is, my first Valiant books when I was a wee child were Ninjak #1, Deathmate, Valiant Vision Starter Kit, and X-O Manowar 0. While I now certainly realize how horrid V.V. and Deathmate are, I really do still dig Ninjak. I think it is because Batman is my all-time favorite superhero next to Vertigo's Sandman, and Ninjak is definitely a knock-off of bats (the wealthy playboy superhero aspect anyway).
So, if Batman is your favorite, then what did you think of the punch Hal landed on Bruce in Rebirth? Me, I thought it was the least Bruce deserved, at the time.
Same here.

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xodacia81 wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You guys rule!

The thing is, my first Valiant books when I was a wee child were Ninjak #1, Deathmate, Valiant Vision Starter Kit, and X-O Manowar 0. While I now certainly realize how horrid V.V. and Deathmate are, I really do still dig Ninjak. I think it is because Batman is my all-time favorite superhero next to Vertigo's Sandman, and Ninjak is definitely a knock-off of bats (the wealthy playboy superhero aspect anyway).
So, if Batman is your favorite, then what did you think of the punch Hal landed on Bruce in Rebirth? Me, I thought it was the least Bruce deserved, at the time.
Oh, it was absolutely deserved :) I like reading characters even when they may not be the greatest incarnation. For example, i've gone back to re-read Zero Hour and Reing of the Supermen and it's cool to see how Hal Jordan was different back then, and how Johns has developed Green Lantern back into a heroic stance :)

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JonesyAZ wrote:
xodacia81 wrote:
JonesyAZ wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You guys rule!

The thing is, my first Valiant books when I was a wee child were Ninjak #1, Deathmate, Valiant Vision Starter Kit, and X-O Manowar 0. While I now certainly realize how horrid V.V. and Deathmate are, I really do still dig Ninjak. I think it is because Batman is my all-time favorite superhero next to Vertigo's Sandman, and Ninjak is definitely a knock-off of bats (the wealthy playboy superhero aspect anyway).
So, if Batman is your favorite, then what did you think of the punch Hal landed on Bruce in Rebirth? Me, I thought it was the least Bruce deserved, at the time.
Oh, it was absolutely deserved :) I like reading characters even when they may not be the greatest incarnation. For example, i've gone back to re-read Zero Hour and Reing of the Supermen and it's cool to see how Hal Jordan was different back then, and how Johns has developed Green Lantern back into a heroic stance :)
Likewise. Coincidently, I have my biggest love/hate comic character pegged...as Batman. Some versions I really like the way they deal with him and other's, it's not about being multidimensional, he's just a *SQUEE*. I agree about what GJ has done with Hal. 90% of what he's done with GL has been gold. Back when the Gerard Jones era of GL ended, the editors had stopped caring and the series had become one big pile of bland. Marz, I think, actually did much to improve the book, for a while at least.

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JonesyAZ wrote:I just started re-reading Ninjak on Monday. So far, i've read issues 0, 00, 1, 2, and 3.

I can honestly say i've enjoyed this session of Ninjak reading the most so far. The 0 and 00 issues are quite good in quality when it comes to origin stories :)

I really dig the James Bond-meets-Batman feel of Colin's character :) Plus, you can't go wrong with Joe Quesada's artwork in issues 1-3 :)

I'm looking forward to reading the rest of the title to see how well it flows from beginning to end.

Interesting tidbit...in issues 0 and 00, there are a couple characters named "Abnett" and "Lanning." Lol...
Now that I am binding my VH1 collection and the new "Ninjak" will be coming out soon, I decided to read the Ninjak 0-26 issue run. I am only a few issues in and so far the first 0 issue was pretty good, but I was lost in the double 00 issue. facepalm Issues 1-2 were an interesting read and I am curious to see where it goes from here. I am very excited to see what Kindt has in store for the new "Ninjak" series. :P

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I just finished issues 3-20 of "Ninjak" and it has been a fun read. I like when Ninjak is narrating the story from his perspective. With Acclaim fully in charge, the remaining issues will probably go down hill from here. facepalm Issues 21-26, plus the Yearbook and this one is wrapped up.

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mkb28 wrote:I just finished issues 3-20 of "Ninjak" and it has been a fun read. I like when Ninjak is narrating the story from his perspective. With Acclaim fully in charge, the remaining issues will probably go down hill from here. facepalm Issues 21-26, plus the Yearbook and this one is wrapped up.

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I finished these last 7-8 issues and I kept hoping that Ninjak would just jab his sword into Dr. Silk's big eye and then move onto another villain. :hope: It never happened, but it was still a fun read overall. I could have done without Ninjak smoking. :? What kind of message to send to kids for heaven's sakes!

I am already into the first 9 issues of "Bloodshot" and I really love this old series. :cloud9:

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My graphic novel book club is actually reading the Ninjak '94 hardcover this month, at my suggestion. I did get that it didn't seem tied into much of the Valiant universe, but I think this is good for my club since this is really the only Valiant title that's been pitched so far. When I pitched the title as "a ninja James Bond", I was surprised that the group nearly unanimously voted to read it, I thought that was really cool, but I'm hoping that it won't let them down!

Personally, I thought the title was pretty good, although the XOM crossover was a bit hokey. The action was top notch, and it was cool seeing the story introduce elements that were actually going on in the world at the time (i.e., CIA-issued Stingers going missing from Afghanistan was actually happening at the time) Take a look at some of the discussion questions I came up with here:

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UPDATE: Read through to the end of the Ninjak run all the way to issue #26. The whole arc wasn't perfect, but fairly solid with some minor art quibbles (with Chris Sprouse on some of those issues, suprising because I like his Tom Strong art). The Abnett and Lanning overarching plot was great in the teen issues, although they stopped writing the book I think Jorge Gonzalez wrote a pretty good script from the A&L plots. The spy stuff against Webnet and White Wolf was cool, but I really got interested when it introduced Sister Gabriela, the Vatican intelligence agent/nun, I wish that arc would have continued! She could have even had her own title and become the Black Widow of Valiant! :rant:
mkb28 wrote:
mkb28 wrote:I just finished issues 3-20 of "Ninjak" and it has been a fun read. I like when Ninjak is narrating the story from his perspective. With Acclaim fully in charge, the remaining issues will probably go down hill from here. facepalm Issues 21-26, plus the Yearbook and this one is wrapped up.

mkb28
I finished these last 7-8 issues and I kept hoping that Ninjak would just jab his sword into Dr. Silk's big eye and then move onto another villain. :hope: It never happened, but it was still a fun read overall. I could have done without Ninjak smoking. :? What kind of message to send to kids for heaven's sakes!


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Also read the yearbook too, and it was a bit weird how both Silk and Ninjak both had opportunities to kill each other throughout the series, and just didn't.


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